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dang
The Rehab item Mark Unseen   Mar 1 19:12 UTC 1997

Well, I guess I'm the leader?  most active member?  Just storage point? of
the Computer Rehabilitation Committee for Grex.  Recently, this committee has
done absolutely nothing, that I know of.  Why?  Who knows?  Probably lack of
time, more than anything.  However, we have some equipment earmarked for the
comittee to fix/distribute.  What should be done with it?  What should the
rehab comittee do in general?  This is the item for discussion on the rehab
comittee.
48 responses total.
remmers
response 1 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 19:40 UTC 1997

Watcha got?
srw
response 2 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 13:01 UTC 1997

I think the rehab committee should take old PCs and make them into 
Grexing terminals and give them to anyone who feels that they could use 
one, and is unable to get one on their own.
snafu
response 3 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 20:40 UTC 1997

Do we need more people to work with this? Take this over if dang doesn't wish
to deal with it?
valerie
response 4 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 14:56 UTC 1997

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janc
response 5 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 21:57 UTC 1997

The Computer Rehab Committee has been inactive for so long that I must admit
that I'm a little unclear on what exactly it is supposed to be doing.
adbarr
response 6 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 22:34 UTC 1997

There may be a clue to the purpose of the committee in the name of the
committee? Of course, it could be some kind of stealth name to create
confusion in the minds of the enemy.
pfv
response 7 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 03:12 UTC 1997

        Whatever *did* happen to the Stealth Committee?

        Report any members you might.. <mind-cloud>

        Where am I?
rcurl
response 8 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 04:05 UTC 1997

I started the rehab committee. We collected some computers, and gave them
to deserving individuals through other non-profits. (The *original*
motivation was to stop the waste of those good computers at UM Property
Disposition.) 

We then ran into a collecting/cataloging/storing/distribution organization
problem. My interest also lagged as I realized that only hackers and other
hobbyists can make good use of XTs and other ancient technology -
deserving students needed better machines for school use, etc. We finally
found a home for what the committee had collected - but by then contacts,
interests, motivations, etc had shifted so far....people had lost the
"clue to the purpose of the committee". Is this a fair summary? I think it
would still be a worthwhile, charitable, activity for Grex, but someone
able to dedicate more time and effort to it than I can would have to take
it on. 

 !grep rehab /etc/aliases  to see most recent committee composition.
e4808mc
response 9 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 04:11 UTC 1997

For anybody who is grexing at work, but might want to be able to grex at home,
an ancient technology computer might be just fine.  (Some of us still make
use of them 'cause it's all we have!).
rcurl
response 10 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 20:11 UTC 1997

The intent was not just to support grexing, but to aid (e.g.) students needing
a computer because they are dislexic - it would have to be compatible with
school software, in particular. We had a case like this. Providing them for
grexing would also not be a very compelling public service to support our
charitable tax ecxemption (in contrast to *more* charitable uses).
adbarr
response 11 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 00:36 UTC 1997

Grexing would be a public service, I think. Lots of combined skills needed
here, including a thick skin. I don't see a conflict here, Rane. The project
needs a space to operate. That takes a medium of exchange or a donation.
steve
response 12 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 03:38 UTC 1997

   I'm willing to work on a specific computer for a specific project, if
someone comes up with such.  Unforunately, I think that the level of stuff
that we have just isn't up to what most people think of computing as, these
days.
   Perhaps a better idea is to make all the rehab equipment terminals
for Grex, and loan (give?) them out to folks who are interested in Grex
but have no equipment other than whats in the library, etc.  Maybe thats
a better use for them?
rcurl
response 13 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 08:07 UTC 1997

I agree, Arnold, that grex is a public service. That is why I wrote
just "not...very compelling" in contrast to direct human services to the poor,
downtrodden, incompacitated, or needy. 
valerie
response 14 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 17:10 UTC 1997

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richard
response 15 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 17:20 UTC 1997

yeah, when does grex get its second computer?  Is there a timetable?>?
rcurl
response 16 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 18:52 UTC 1997

Re #14: yes, from STeve - but there are opportunities for volunteers to step
forward for the rehab project.
dang
response 17 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 17:52 UTC 1997

As far as I know, we have several (4-8?) XTs some of which work and some of
which don't, and a box of software, that's not really for rehab, but I'm
storing it anyway.  I'll probably go at the next Grex auction.
robh
response 18 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 22:34 UTC 1997

I might buy one of those XT's, it's better than what I have now.  >8)
remmers
response 19 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 23:33 UTC 1997

Even the ones that don't work?
valerie
response 20 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 00:46 UTC 1997

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richard
response 21 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 02:39 UTC 1997

query:  what is Bach?  another conferencing board?
robh
response 22 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 02:51 UTC 1997

Re 19 - That would be a close call.  >8)
scg
response 23 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 06:17 UTC 1997

Bach is the Sun 670 that will one day become Grex.
rcurl
response 24 of 48: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 07:14 UTC 1997

I don't know whether those XTs being used by Grex were donated for the
rehab project in particular, or not, but if anything *is* donated for
the rehab project, it would be a violation of a trust to take it for Grex
use. Any donation that is given for a specific purpose must be used for that
purpose, or returned. In addition, since there still is a rehab committee,
I'd suggest that that committee at least be consulted on the use of the
items that it has for rehab purposes. These niceties may or may not apply in
this particulart instance, but I put them forward as how a real rehab
project should conduct its operations.
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