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Grex > Coop9 > #60: cicnet conditions of use - to which grex must agree for isdn connection | |
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tsty
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cicnet conditions of use - to which grex must agree for isdn connection
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Feb 28 19:35 UTC 1997 |
#22 Jared Mauch(jared) on Wed Feb 26 13:43:25 1997:
CICNet Conditions of Use
General
CICNet was founded by the member universities of the Committee on
Institutional Cooperation to provide a high speed data communications
infrastructure for a seven state region of the upper Midwest.
CICNet's network exists for the primary purpose of transmitting and
sharing information between academic and research organizations. The
founders of CICNet encourage organizations from both the public and
private sectors to become members of CICNet. The use of CICNet
facilities by any member must be consistent with these CICNet
Conditions of Use.
All CICNet members assume responsibility for providing reasonable
publicity for the CICNet Conditions of Use at their sites and for
communicating this policy to an appropriate administrative authority
at all sites connected to theirs via connections that are not
supported by CICNet. Ultimate responsibility for traffic that does
or does not conform to this policy is with the individual end-user
who originates that traffic.
It is the policy of CICNet to provide access to the broadest possible
number of organizations connected to the Internet. This is
accomplished through connectivity to one or more national backbone
networks.
Unacceptable Use
It is not acceptable to use CICNet for any purposes which violate
U.S. or state laws.
It is not acceptable to use CICNet so as to interfere with or disrupt
network users, services or equipment. Such interference or
disruption includes, but is not limited to: distribution of
unsolicited advertising; propagation of computer worms or viruses;
and using the network to make unauthorized entry to other
computational, information, or communications devices or resources.
Enforcement and Violations
The Board of Directors of CICNet, or their designee, will review
alleged violation of the CICNet Conditions of Use on a case-by-
case basis. Clear violations of the policy which are not promptly
remedied by the relevant member organization may result in
disciplinary action by CICNet up to and including the expulsion of
the member from CICNet, termination of CICNet services, and
forfeiture of all dues paid to date.
Modifications to this policy
CICNet, Inc. reserves the right to modify this policy at any time.
Members will receive notification of all such modifications 30 days
prior to their effective date.
Information
Questions related to the CICNet Conditions of Use should be
addressed to:
CICNet, Inc.
2901 Hubbard
Ann Arbor, MI 48105
voice: 313-998-6103
fax: 313-998-6105
email: info@cic.net
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Any questions about this policy?
I will be hacking together the contract shortly and will try and get
it in a text format shortly.
The above file is also available via ftp://ftp.cic.net/pub/CICNet/
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ladymoon
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response 1 of 17:
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Mar 1 02:45 UTC 1997 |
This feels VERY . . restrictive. I'll have to re-read it to figure out what
about it does that for me, but I don't like the feel of it at all . .
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scg
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response 2 of 17:
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Mar 1 06:32 UTC 1997 |
It says that our users can't use the net connection to violate laws, break
into other systems, or do other things that will bring the Internet to its
knees. That all seems very reasonable to me. I don't imagine we will find
an ISP without those restrictions, and if we did, I don't think we would want
to do business with them.
Anyway, this is all moot. ICNet, our current provider, gets their connection
from CICNet. This acceptable use policy isn't new for us, since it already
applies to ICNet, and therefore to us.
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ajax
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response 3 of 17:
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Mar 1 14:42 UTC 1997 |
The way I see it, the deal boils down to this: CIC-Net can pull our
plug for any reason at any time. IC-Net has had the same power for the
last several years. Such is the nature of receiving an on-going donation.
We're relying on some good faith here. The contract spells out a few
specific reasons they might pull the plug, but those are very standard
clauses in ISP service agreements, and as long as CIC-Net has been made
aware of Grex's basic policies, I don't anticipate any problems.
It's somewhat reassuring that Jared's nether.net has been tolerated
there, as CIC-Net won't be taken by surprise by the problems that
sometimes occur with systems that are open the public.
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dpc
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response 4 of 17:
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Mar 1 17:22 UTC 1997 |
I think these conditions are fine. Since they haven't caused us any
problems in the past (through IC-Net), I don't expect any now.
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adbarr
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response 5 of 17:
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Mar 1 18:46 UTC 1997 |
I agree. And we are in such a powerful negotiating position: take it or
leave it. It is not a problem.
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srw
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response 6 of 17:
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Mar 2 12:41 UTC 1997 |
I agree too. These conditions of use have applied to Grex for the last
several years, as long as we have been on the internet. They mostly
cause a burden on the staff to take action to keep Grex usage internet-
friendly.
In addition, i think that these are good conditions. I am not
comfortable allowing Grex to continue to supply services to people who
violate them.
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tsty
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response 7 of 17:
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Mar 6 09:35 UTC 1997 |
it's good to get them out in the open though, that was teh prime point.
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steve
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response 8 of 17:
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Mar 7 03:45 UTC 1997 |
I signed the original papers with IC-Net some number of years
ago, and they looked rather like #0. Basically, we can't use the
link for illegal purposes is what it all boils down to.
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ladymoon
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response 9 of 17:
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Mar 7 04:35 UTC 1997 |
Hm. Okay, with the points made, I guess there's nothing that wrong with it.
*shrug* like I'm an expert.
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dpc
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response 10 of 17:
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Mar 8 00:27 UTC 1997 |
Selena, *nobody* is an expert in this area.
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ladymoon
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response 11 of 17:
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Mar 8 00:37 UTC 1997 |
At least I admitted it.
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omni
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response 12 of 17:
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Mar 8 05:08 UTC 1997 |
I don't see a problem with this, and I think we should proceed with cautious
dispatch.
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albaugh
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response 13 of 17:
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Mar 23 06:40 UTC 1997 |
One of the stated Unacceptable Uses is "distribution of unsolicited
advertising". That sounds like "don't spam others with junk e-mail".
Does grex have some obligation to monitor its outgoing network traffic
for this and make a good faith effort to prevent it or twart it?
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scg
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response 14 of 17:
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Mar 23 07:05 UTC 1997 |
That sort of thing is in the acceptable use policy for almost every ISP I've
run across. Generally it means that the situation will be dealt with when
there are complaints, rather than that everything sent out will be monitored.
I assume such a policy, from any ISP we might connect to, would mean that Grex
would be expected to deal with such a situation if it happened.
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dang
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response 15 of 17:
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Mar 23 20:43 UTC 1997 |
Which we try and do... :)
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mdw
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response 16 of 17:
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Mar 24 23:58 UTC 1997 |
junk mail normally gets a very low response rate (<3%); I doubt junk
e-mail is any better. That means anyone trying to do it for commercial
purposes has to send a *lot* of it in order to generate enough volume to
make it worth the time & effort. That amount of e-mail would completely
swamp our 28.8K modem link, and would produce a *strong* incentive for
us to "solve" the problem as quickly as possible. It also means grex
isn't very attractive for junk e-mail purposes.
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srw
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response 17 of 17:
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Mar 29 23:05 UTC 1997 |
Occasionally people do abuse Grex's amil system by sending out junk. We
never monitor it. We would notice if either the mail queue became
blocked or if a user complained. Just today, we received a complaint
about hundreds of messages containing random messages being sent to the
same place. Mail logs confirmed that a Grex user had done this( even
though we have a very slow link).
Usually we first respond by warning the user that such behavior is
unacceptable use of the system. Usually that's all that is necessary.
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