response 5 of 41:

Feb 23 02:42 UTC 1997

after it happens, sure.

response 7 of 41:

Feb 25 23:25 UTC 1997

#6...likely because there are exactly 3,243,571.5 "steve's" on grex (the .5
being that I think there used to a "McSteve" here.

when you call one or refer to one a steve here, you never know if they mean
a Gibard, Weiss, Andre or someone else?  It would help if one of them went
by Stephen or Stevie, but what can you do.

response 9 of 41:

Feb 26 00:53 UTC 1997

We are steve.
or was that jep?

response 11 of 41:

Feb 26 05:45 UTC 1997

 re 6. STeve refers to the Main STeve, aka STeve Andre. All others are mere
pretenders to the title, and that includes Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak.

Clifford Stoll is a honorary Steve. (He knows a lot about Computers. ;) )

response 13 of 41:

Feb 26 13:51 UTC 1997

So, except for the cfadm trainee item there won't be any new
business tonight?  And since a more detailed ISDN proposals hasn't
been brought to the membership there won't be much to vote
on this evening?

(Just a gentle reminder that action at meetings should follow
 discussion in Co-op.  New business happens here and the membership
 should be allowed input before Board votes on anything more than
 the most trival action.)

response 15 of 41:

Feb 26 16:59 UTC 1997

re #10
        Jep junior!  God save us all. :)
re #14
        Correct.

        I will be at the meeting incase any questions are raised to help
move along this issue.

        My recommendation is that once you are done changing over
from the old connection to the new to discontinue the expense of paying
for the phone line on the ic.net end.  We are their upstream
provider so any traffic from the greater internet (including u of m
traffic) will pass through us first anyways.. the only traffic 
you could possibly have go directly is traffic from within ic.net
which probally dones't account for that much.

        Folks who are used to typing the ip address will need to
understand the concept of dns though :)

response 17 of 41:

Feb 26 17:51 UTC 1997

You will have to comply with our acceptable-use policy, and (as listed
in my message that went to janc & valerie then I *thought* they cc:ed baff
in on it [i may be wrong] you will need to comply with a few little things,
like web caching (good idea anyways), and a few other little things,
but other than that, there are no strings attached)...

I can send you a copy of all this, and include a copy of our AUP policy.
You can use the link as you wish as log as it's not in violation with
this policy.

It basically says you aren't going to do anything illegal or try and
make the internet less enjoyable for anyone else.  I will hand out
copies of this tonight to interested folks, and can post it online also.

As for the money part of it, I can't answer that.  That's up to you. :)

response 19 of 41:

Feb 26 18:10 UTC 1997

I was approached recently with a fund rasing offer, which I will bring up
formally before the Bpard tonight.  Text follows:

The band 'Poignant Plecostomus' (PP) is interested in performing a benifit
to support GREX because they think it's a valuable and meaningful resource
to the community of Ann Arbor.   They have many friends who are on GREX
and think the concept of a virtual community where people can meet and
share ideas and many other things is something that needs to be preserved
and promoted to a more common awareness.  

The idea that has come from this is to arrange and schedule a benifit
performance with some additional special guests to also perform.  This
would require a few things in order to do this.  

        1. Approval from the GREX Board and Staff

        2. A Venue

        3. A Date and Time 

        4. A prepared plan and active participants

Here's how I propose we address these areas.

1. Approval from the GREX Board and Staff

This is the area that I know you can address by presenting the idea at the
Board Meeting next Wednesday so I'll move on.

2. A Venue

I've contacted a friend who has scheduled and booked several shows with
both PP and several others that we're in regular contact with.  The idea
here is to make arrangements to have their support by allowing us to use
their space to hold the Benifit.  Of course scheduling issues are a factor
here.  I'll keep you posted.  The idea presently held here is that this
space would be donated to the cause.  The only condition being "leave it
as you found it", in other words, orderly and undamaged.  Since I know
this will not be a problem I'll move on.

3. A Date and Time

As mentioned above, the avaiablity of the space is a factor, as well as
the participant's schedules... I've learned that sometimes it's best to be
a bit flexable in the early planning of this kind of thing (yeah, I'm a
seasoned pro with event planning and production, that's the hat I'll offer
to wear! ;-).  Currently, with two PPlecostomus members on holiday in
Europe until early March it's not possible to secure their entire
schedule.  I do know as of today that they are booked to perform on the
21st and 22nd of March, and I will be in Portland, Oregon from the
21st through the 30th of March.  With this in mind the conversation we
shared moved into April and that's where my attention is directed at this
time. 

4. A prepared plan and active participants

The first three items are important, but to ensure success we'll have to
keep the channels of communication active in developing the plan and
coordinating the participants.  I know this will not be a problem and I
think some of the early interest that this idea has gained is an indicator
of that.  

I've had very positive interest from individuals, some of whom
represent local organizations, in supporting the proposed benifit.  Many
of these individuals are "movers and shakers" in their own areas of
interests.  As the plans develop I look forward to introducing some
very interesting people to you and others who would like to see this event
go over smoothly from the planning stages to the performance stages and
on to the cleanup stages.  

Please let me know what you think and feel free to add any comments,
issues, ideas, etc. as we move forward in the early planning.  

I know we talked about a few other areas, such as printing limited edition
GREX
shirts for the event, and I'm doing some leg work in that direction to see
what materializes.  I think we're all going to be surprize at what can be
accomplished when creative people put their heads together and get active
behind a great idea for a good cause.  

Feel free to contact me when you have time and we'll work through more
details and brainstorming.  I can be reached via email at either this
address or kharder@cyberspace.org (but you know this :-).  I can also be
reached during the week in the evenings, usually after 6pm at my home
number: 327.9641 or by using my voicemail at 800.853.9918.   As I
mentioned earlier, it's best to use the voicemail number if you don't
reach me at home.  I don't check for messages there and encourage folks to
not leave messages for me there, the voicemail works much better for this.

I look forward to hearing from you.  Take care and talk to you soon!

Regards,

Keith Harder                     EMAIL: keith@msage.com 
Micro Sage Software Systems      VOICE: (313) 663-0444
130 South First Street             FAX: (313) 663-0638
Ann Arbor, MI 48104 USA

response 21 of 41:

Feb 26 18:41 UTC 1997

There seems to be time anyway. Convert #19 to an Item, and we can get on
with discussing it.

response 23 of 41:

Feb 26 21:56 UTC 1997

It should be pointed out that IC-Net is a client of CICNet,
so we're actually already bound by these rules, indirectly.