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Grex > Coop9 > #24: 1996 Board Election Results | |
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remmers
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1996 Board Election Results
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Dec 17 15:23 UTC 1996 |
Here are the results of the 1996 Board election. Fifty-two out
of ninety-four eligible voters cast ballots. That's 55%, which
if I recall correctly is a somewhat better turnout than last
year. Totals:
Candidate # Votes
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Valerie Mates (popcorn) 43
Jan Wolter (janc) 37
Steve Gibbard (scg) 31
Dan Gryniewicz (dang) 15
Mary Remmers (chelsea) 14
TS Taylor (tsty) 10
Nat Siddall (nsiddall) 1
Since there were three vacancies, the winners are Valerie, Jan,
and Steve. Congratulations!
The vote program has always been open to anyone to run, and as
a result a number of non-members vote. This year there were 54
non-members who cast ballots, slightly more than the number of
members who voted. Although their votes are not counted, I
thought it might be of interest to look at the results. There
are significant differences in the candidate ranking. Here are
the non-member totals. I emphasize that these are unofficial
and were not used in determining who was elected:
Candidate # Votes
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Valerie Mates (popcorn) 36
Steve Gibbard (scg) 33
Mary Remmers (chelsea) 26
Jan Wolter (janc) 19
Dan Gryniewicz (dang) 17
Nat Siddall (nsiddall) 10
TS Taylor (tsty) 6
Congratulations again to the winners, and thanks to all who
participated in the election process.
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popcorn
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response 1 of 36:
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Dec 17 15:36 UTC 1996 |
Thanks to everybody who voted. As always, Grex had lots of good candidates
who would have been great board members. I personally had a heck of a time
deciding how to vote.
Also thanks to everybody who ran.
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kerouac
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response 2 of 36:
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Dec 17 16:31 UTC 1996 |
you mean tsty got more member votes than non-member votes?!?! *head spinning*
I think 55% is a low turnout and speaks towards member apathy. Only a
little overhalf the membership was even willing to go to the trouble
of runing the !vote program. More non-members voted than members.
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remmers
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response 3 of 36:
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Dec 17 16:44 UTC 1996 |
For comparison purposes: Last year 47% of those eligible voted
(41 out of 86).
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robh
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response 4 of 36:
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Dec 17 16:46 UTC 1996 |
Or you could say that Grex voter turnout is higher than the
turnout in November's national election. Depends on your
perspective.
Though I must admit, I too am shocked that tsty got more votes
from members than non-members...
Congratulations to the winners, and thanks to everyone!
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robh
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response 5 of 36:
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Dec 17 16:46 UTC 1996 |
(#4 was a response to #2, remmers slipped in.)
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kerouac
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response 6 of 36:
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Dec 17 17:08 UTC 1996 |
there is a diffrence between going out and standing in line
to vote and typing !vote. One is infinitely easier. Maybe in
the future, polls should be kept open on grex votes until 75%
of themembership has voted.
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scg
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response 7 of 36:
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Dec 17 17:21 UTC 1996 |
And what if we never get to 75%. I don't think you were around here a few
years ago, Richard, when there was a quorum requirement for voting. The
election had to be done over again, after a bylaw ammendment, so that we could
get valid results.
Anyway...
Thanks, everybody!
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scott
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response 8 of 36:
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Dec 17 17:22 UTC 1996 |
On the other hand, maybe some folks want to contribute money to keep Grex
alive, but would rather not have the responsibility of voting. Who are we
to force them to vote?
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scott
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response 9 of 36:
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Dec 17 17:22 UTC 1996 |
(scg slipped in)
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kerouac
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response 10 of 36:
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Dec 17 18:03 UTC 1996 |
there was a quorum requirement for valid election results? Why was
that changed in thebylaws?
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janc
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response 11 of 36:
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Dec 17 18:51 UTC 1996 |
TS didn't put up a "statement" for in the vote program, but did mail one
directly to all members. Thus his campaign focused on members, and it is not
too surprising that he did better with the members.
Congratulations to all, and thanks for running a good election.
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robh
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response 12 of 36:
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Dec 17 18:53 UTC 1996 |
Re-read #7, kerouac. We changed it because the first Board election
we held in December 1994 didn't get quorum. We had to hold the
then-current Board in office, until we removed the quorum requirement
and had a valid election a few months later. If we hadn't done that,
we could have gone quite a long time without new officers.
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rcurl
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response 13 of 36:
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Dec 17 18:54 UTC 1996 |
Because we could not meet it and, it looked likely that in the future with
many members here for services rather than participation, it would be even
more difficult. Also, elections almost universally do not require a voting
quorum. The only action requiring a voting quorum of members in state law
is amending the Articles in a membershipo corporation (like us). This is
also usual in all democracies - no one is forced to vote.
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dang
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response 14 of 36:
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Dec 17 20:30 UTC 1996 |
Thanks all for voting. I did a lot better than I expected. :)
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popcorn
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response 15 of 36:
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Dec 17 21:19 UTC 1996 |
(Kerouac's got us all running in circles again. Sigh.)
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chelsea
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response 16 of 36:
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Dec 17 23:34 UTC 1996 |
Congratulations to Valerie, Steve, and Jan. I'm feeling
very pleased with the outcome and virtuous for volunteering
to be a candidate. ;-)
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scott
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response 17 of 36:
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Dec 17 23:51 UTC 1996 |
Don't look so happy, Mary... We'll get on Board yet... ;)
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tsty
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response 18 of 36:
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Dec 18 02:34 UTC 1996 |
it was a fun run y'all - thankxx for the nomination kerouac.
congratulations to all the voters and vote-receivers.
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z0mbie
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response 19 of 36:
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Dec 18 16:55 UTC 1996 |
I would have voted, but I thought that only Members could vote?? OR is
it that only members count. I was going to donate (and get my
membership) at the pot luck, but most of us know what happend there.
I am gonna mail you the $$$ eventually!
Congrats to all the winners!!
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robh
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response 20 of 36:
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Dec 18 17:12 UTC 1996 |
This item has been linked from Co-op 24 to Intro 134.
Type "join coop" at the Ok: prompt for discussion of
Grex policy.
Re 19 - Anybody can run the vote program, but only members'
votes are counted to determine the winners.
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davel
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response 21 of 36:
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Dec 19 14:53 UTC 1996 |
And I don't know that "most of us" know what happened at the potluck ...
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popcorn
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response 22 of 36:
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Dec 19 20:51 UTC 1996 |
Kevin's mom had been going to drive him there, but it turned out that she
wasn't able to. So Kevin attended the pot luck by phone, instead.
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brighn
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response 23 of 36:
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Dec 19 22:49 UTC 1996 |
One thing that confused me about Richard's comments that I haven't seen
addrssed. He attributes the fact that more non-members than members voted to
"member apathy". given the grand difference in the NUMBER of non-members to
members (what, 1% of Grex users are members? something obscenely low like
that), I think that the fact that nearly the same number of non-members
bothered to vote indicates a helluva lot more user apathy from non-members
than members.
To go back down a familiar street, Kerouac, people fail to vote for any of
several reasons:
-- They don't care because the system is already so screwed up, what
difference does it make"?
-- they can't choose between so many equally qualified candidates
-- they don't care because the system is working just hunkydoryfine
thankyouverymuch
-- They don't think their vote will sway things.
In this case, the fourth doesn't seem likely, but given the field, the second
and the third seem a lot more likely than the first, in most cases. Especially
considering you don't *have* to pay membership dues, i think the honking up
of $60/year is a better indicator of apathy or lack thereof than failure to
vote. =}
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srw
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response 24 of 36:
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Dec 20 07:55 UTC 1996 |
Also many people fail to vote because it requires a great deal
of effort to form an opinion. If you did not read tyhe
conferences regularly, and we have a number of members who do
not, then you really would not know the condidates very well.
We do try to make it easy to form an opinion, but still I know
that it is hard. The mechanics of voting are hardly likely to be
a cause for not voting.
55% of all the members voted.
0.3 percent of all the non-members voted.
Thanks to all who voted. Thanks to all who ran.
Congrats to the winners.
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