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popcorn
>>> Grex needs to move <<< Mark Unseen   Jun 18 20:27 UTC 1996

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void
response 1 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 20:35 UTC 1996

   wow. i'll keep my ears open for space.
tsty
response 2 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 20:36 UTC 1996

july 8th?   MaBell can't even move that fast .... apeal the ruling
on general principle. we are storing computers there.
adbarr
response 3 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 21:03 UTC 1996

If you can in good faith, appeal. In the meantime - use all search
facilities to the utmost.
slynne
response 4 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 22:07 UTC 1996

Someone from grex should talk to dpc. He has been looking around for 
places for Arbornet. Perhaps he would be willing to share the information 
he has gathered. I dont know how helpful you will find the information 
but it could save someone a lot of time. 


bruin
response 5 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 22:14 UTC 1996

BTW, I did give a little notice to Pattrice Maurer on tonight's "Tenant Talk"
show on WCBN 88.3 FM letting the radio audience know that we are looking for
any leads.  Good luck!
robh
response 6 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 22:16 UTC 1996

Many thanks, bruin!
carson
response 7 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 01:05 UTC 1996

rickyb's been posting possible spaces all along... or are we ignoring him?
nephi
response 8 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 04:05 UTC 1996

(I think everyone forgot that item . . . )
popcorn
response 9 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 05:50 UTC 1996

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tsty
response 10 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 06:12 UTC 1996

is there some range orf "affordability?"
popcorn
response 11 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 13:52 UTC 1996

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popcorn
response 12 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 13:52 UTC 1996

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robh
response 13 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 14:36 UTC 1996

<robh cheers>
kerouac
response 14 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 15:07 UTC 1996

I still think getting a sponsor to provide a location might be an anser
answer...all grex needs is an empty office in some building with 24 hour
access.  Maybe one of the local media outlets (a radio station or the a2 
news or something) would sponsor grex...most of those operate 24 hours...

I can see it now...

"Welcome to grex, from cyberspace communications and the Ann Arbor News!"


kerouac
response 15 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 15:16 UTC 1996

doesnt the lease allow for the standard sixty days notice?

Actually, digging out the floor a little in a small room doesnt sound 
like a big deal.  the landlord can pay for that, or most of it.  The fire 
door should be appealed though...why is a fire door needed when noone is 
usually there!
scott
response 16 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 16:03 UTC 1996

Doesn't sound like a big deal?

Boy are you going to be surprised when you buy a house some day!  ;)
jerryr
response 17 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 16:18 UTC 1996

i posted a reponse in the announcements item on m-nut.  mayhaps if anyone can
log on there and read it, they may have some helpful ideas for grex.
rickyb
response 18 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 16:18 UTC 1996

#8:     _I_ hav~
(oops...sorry)

#8:     _I_ haven't   ;)

#9:     Has anyone lookinto those "fancy" or "expensive" places?  Don't rule
        them out just because you can function in a dungeon!

#11:    I think grex is now paying about $125 in rent and electric.  I'd think
        rent of up to $175 would be doable if it included utilities.

#3:     By all means use any legal means to appeal/delay the deadline.  AA
        Tenants Union might be able to help, of the Dispute Resolution Center.

#15:    If you are really in deep sh*t, and don't mind the hassel, you can
        hold out beyond the deadline like a squatter.  It takes at least 60
days    er...days before an eviction order can be applied for and usually
        another 30 days after that before a sherriff physically puts you out
        on the street.  NOT desireable, but keep on looking for a home.

rickyb
response 19 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 16:19 UTC 1996

#17 slipped in...IF anyone can log-on over there...heh     ;-)

kerouac
response 20 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 16:25 UTC 1996

\#18...either that or barricade the dungeon in afreemen like showdown, \
declaring the dungeon to be a separate country (grex township) and refuse 
to recognize the eviction orders.  Only prohblem is they'd probably turn 
off the electricity and grex would go down...oh well :)
\
rickyb
response 21 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 16:44 UTC 1996

Here's another thought...look for a place that is open 24hrs a day (like a
Krogers, pharmacy, convienience store, etc).  MAYBE, just maybe, you can swing
a closet just large enough to house the grexb0x, and access wouldn't be a
problem.  Anyone know ann independant owner of a 24hr gas station or
conveience store?

janc
response 22 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 18:43 UTC 1996

Hmmm...maybe the Ann Arbor News could write us a headline like:

    Zoning Board Ruling to Leave 11,000 Homeless
ajax
response 23 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 20:03 UTC 1996

  Heh, that's a great idea, Jan :-).
 
  Current rent and electricity is $25/mo and $83/mo respectively.
Ricky makes a good point that $175 with utilities included is
equivalent to $92 without utilities.  (Still pricey, but the utils
help a lot).  There's still the ethical matter of disclosing our
utility bill to a potential landlord; I hope we'd do so.  Grex
seems like a relatively stable tenant, and could sign a fairly
lengthy lease, which might make up for that.
 
  The ad Ricky mentioned was "Studio/office, Downtown Ann Arbor,
$175/mo and up.  Free utilities and parking.  994-8791."
 
  I also saw a "Downtown office, 110 to 2500 sq. ft., Goodyear
Bldg, 122 S. Main 769-8111"...no price, but 110 sq. ft. is pretty
small, so it might be cheap.  If it were $11/sq ft (annually),
that would be about $100 a month.  (Most downtown offices seem
to be in the $10-$14/mo range).
scg
response 24 of 561: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 20:59 UTC 1996

Yes, Grex could probably squat in that room and make the landlord have to
evict us.  And yes, it would probably take him some time to do that.  However,
while we were doing that, our landlord, who has already done way more to help
us than he had to (starting with giving us the space for almost nothing, as
well as fighting thecity for us) would be incurring big fines while we stay
there.  That isn't something we want to do to him.

Besides, I'd imagine the city could probably still shut us down, even if we
were still staying in the room.
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