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Auction off the Grexbat? Mark Unseen   May 19 14:57 UTC 1996

Is it OK if we auction off the Grexbat in the Grex Auction?
It's a wholly imaginary item, so I dunno how much it will sell for,
but think of how much clout the person with the Grexbat would have!
The person would get to be the Keeper Of The Grexbat until the next
auction.  What do you think?

Arnold, since you are the current Keeper Of The Grexbat, and also
its inventor, I'd particularly like to hear what you think.
35 responses total.
robh
response 1 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 19 15:02 UTC 1996

I'm fine with it.
bruin
response 2 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 19 15:07 UTC 1996

Go 4 it!
nephi
response 3 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 19 15:21 UTC 1996

(Is that a four dollar bid?  8^)
aruba
response 4 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 19 16:49 UTC 1996

Heh.  I'll bid on it.
scg
response 5 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 19 18:18 UTC 1996

I think it's Arbold's GrexBat, so he should be the one to offer it. ;)
adbarr
response 6 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 19 18:51 UTC 1996

$50, for the trainee's edition. The professional edition is still in testing.
This is a serious bid!  The Grexbunker is not yet for sale.
srw
response 7 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 19 19:00 UTC 1996

That's too bad. I might have made a bid for the Grexbunker.
kerouac
response 8 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 19 19:22 UTC 1996

I have an idea...why doesnt grex auction off the right for one person, and
one person only, to have graphics on their homepage?  This isnt going to be a
huge space drain for one person to be able to have graphics and its something
a lot of folks might bid on
adbarr
response 9 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 19 19:29 UTC 1996

The Grexbat is available for auction - I bid $60 as opener, knowing full well
I have just bid against myself, but knowing the value of this unique item.
<the Grexbat pulsates and glows in anticipation!> Please enter this in the
Auction Conference. Carefully, lest the Grexbat see unanticipated use.
scott
response 10 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 19 21:01 UTC 1996

Re: 8

Graphics aren't a matter of space, but bandwith.  And it wouldn't be a drain,
unless that person's page got popular for some reason (A Grexer told me that
his page somehow got onto the "worst page" list somewhere, and it got loads
of hits.)
scg
response 11 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 19 21:19 UTC 1996

We woudlnt' get much for the right to have graphics, anyway.  Commercial ISPs
don't charge much for that, and they could actually transmit the graphics
quickly.
robh
response 12 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 19 22:51 UTC 1996

Yeah, if we got more than ten dollars for letting someone put
graphics on their page, I'd be shocked.

(And I'll leave it to kerouac to explain to the other 400 users
with Web pages why *they* aren't allowed to have graphics when
*this* guy is.)
omni
response 13 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 20 04:04 UTC 1996

  250,000 Gribs. 


 oops. Wrong system. ;)
janc
response 14 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 20 13:59 UTC 1996

This is a good idea.  The holder of the Grexbat has, of course, a certain
disciplinary power of the imaginary sort.  Let me demonstrate:

  <janc grabs the grexbat off the auction block and swats omni>

  Imaginary M-Net money is *not* accepted here!
adbarr
response 15 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 20 23:31 UTC 1996

Um, ok but please remember to replace the Grexbat when you are through.
Thank you.
aruba
response 16 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 21 02:24 UTC 1996

I think kerouac has a good idea.  *I*'ll bid $10.  And I don't even have a
web page yet.  I don't really think you'll have to explain it to 400 users,
Rob - how will they know about it?  I suppose if it is, truly, a really cool
page, a *few* Grexers might find it surfing and then a few of them might
remark on the discrepancy.  Come to think of it, that might even be taken
care of if we ask the winner of the auction to put a note on the page
explaining how come he's allowed to do it.

The only other way people might get wind that someone else has graphics on
his Grex web page is by word of mouth.  In that case, I'll bet the explanation
would almost certainly have gone with the information.
nephi
response 17 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 21 05:02 UTC 1996

Can we alter that "graphics on a webpage" thing some?  I think we *really*
don't want 100K pictures going over our link several times per day.  Perhaps,
instead of that, we could offer server space elsewhere for that person to put
his or her graphics.  I volunteer some space at accessU.S.'s server, to which
the person could img src's to.  
robh
response 18 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 21 06:51 UTC 1996

Re 16 - I discovered that our GIF blocking technique with the
old httpd wasn't working because a user wrote to me in a huff
and asked, "Why does so-and-so have a picture on her page???"
So yes, users *do* look at other users' pages, and will notice
if someone has graphics on them.  Especially if the graphic
is stored on Grex.

(I've also had many users complain about the pictures on my page,
until I told them that the pictures weren't stored on Grex.)
ajax
response 19 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 21 07:09 UTC 1996

  I like nephi's suggestion of auctioning off-site image storage a lot,
if people want to do this.  It's doesn't degrade Grex's link, avoids
creating an exception to Grex's existing rules, and eliminates the
technical hassle of changing the http daemon to enable graphics from
one user's account.  I can't think of a reason not to accept his
generous offer!
 
  I'd also suggest putting a time-limit (e.g. one year) and space/
bandwidth-limit on the offer, even for off-site image storage; most
ISPs have such limits for good reason.
srw
response 20 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 21 07:12 UTC 1996

Technically, the http daemon does not enforce that restriction. Human staff
members do. Fortunately, we have good tools now, so it's easy.
aruba
response 21 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 21 13:55 UTC 1996

Hmmm.... I agree, nephi's idea sounds like a good solution.  Except that
putting a time limit on it will make it less attractive.
rcurl
response 22 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 21 16:48 UTC 1996

Every other auction item is finite, so why not storage for an image?
ajax
response 23 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 21 22:04 UTC 1996

Mark, I don't see how anyone can in good conscience offer image
storage for an infinite amount of time.
adbarr
response 24 of 35: Mark Unseen   May 22 02:53 UTC 1996

Until the next auction, I thought.
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