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Grex > Coop8 > #58: Cyberspace Communications Finances through 3/31/96 |  |
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aruba
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Cyberspace Communications Finances through 3/31/96
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Apr 18 04:56 UTC 1996 |
Here is the treasurer's report on Cyberspace Communications, Inc.
finances through March 31st, 1996.
Beginning Balance $3,402.94
Credits $760.00 Dues
$460.00 JCC sale proceeds
Debits ($17.20) Dungeon Rent
($83.00) Electricity
($20.00) Innovative Concepts phone line
($238.33) Phone bill
($741.44) New Modems!
($12.68) Bank service charge
($50.00) To Misti for handbooks
($16.59) To Scott for lock & keys
Ending Balance $3,443.70
Our current balance breaks down as follows:
$3,383.70 General fund
$0.00 Modem fund
$60.00 UPS fund
We had a pretty good month in March, the JCC helping out a lot.
Thanks to everyone who contributed in March:
aburek, bmoran, bruin, coyote, darylk, ddn, dpc, garya, giry,
jblue, mcpoz, mwarner, nestene, null, pfc, robh, ryan1, shepherd,
srw, wfh, wolfe, word, and yoyo. Thanks!
Dues are still only $6/month or $60/year. Send cash, checks, or money orders
(payable to Cyberspace Communications) to:
Cyberspace Communications, Inc.
P.O. Box 4432
Ann Arbor, MI 48106-4432
If you pay by cash or money order, *PLEASE* include a photocopy of some form
of ID. I can't add you to the membership role unless I see some ID. If you
pay by personal check, that's good enough.
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arthurp
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response 1 of 38:
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Apr 18 06:30 UTC 1996 |
Don't I remember reading somewhere that it was discovered that JCC sales
accounted for a large part of our income? And isn't $460x4 not very much for
a year as compared to past years? My point being that this month was pretty
good, but I am wondering where we are on a quarterly or yearly scale. Have
we stopped the downward trend? Oh, and just one more question. Why was
mankind placed on this Earth? ;)
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janc
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response 2 of 38:
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Apr 18 13:32 UTC 1996 |
My thanks to all those who helped out this month. If we could sustain this
level of donations, we could likely manage some kind of faster internet link.
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aruba
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response 3 of 38:
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Apr 18 17:36 UTC 1996 |
I think you are correct, Charles, that this was not one of our best JCCs.
But hey, $460 is $460. As for mankind being on the earth, I think it has
something to do with teflon. Or perhaps disco. I'm not sure.
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dang
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response 4 of 38:
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Apr 18 18:35 UTC 1996 |
Well, if you pt teflon on the disco floor, then you get some very interesting
results... ;)
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gregc
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response 5 of 38:
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Apr 18 21:40 UTC 1996 |
Yeah, break(literally) dancing.
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arthurp
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response 6 of 38:
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Apr 19 08:47 UTC 1996 |
Oh, I agree. $460 is great. I was just wondering if we had reversed the
downward trend when viewed from a quarterly or yearly perspective. This month
is certainly a tiddy bit of good news in light of the last few months.
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steve
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response 7 of 38:
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Apr 20 15:23 UTC 1996 |
We need to find some new sources of equipment for future sales
events. Our past sources have been wondeful, but we need to find
new ones, too.
One year ago in March we had our best JCC ever--about $1030.
Thats what bought the 4/200 CPU card we're running on now, along
with 2 32M memory cards.
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ajax
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response 8 of 38:
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Apr 20 20:04 UTC 1996 |
I think periodic motd requests for donations might turn up some equipment.
Storage space is another issue. My apartment was full last time, and I'm
not too keen on filling it again. Also, my standards of what to accept are
stricter: it seems that working components of "obsolete" systems (mono
monitors, 386 motherboards) just don't sell much at JCC, even for a buck.
For old equipment, I think it's only worth taking complete systems (e.g.,
an XT with monitor, keyboard, etc.).
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scott
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Apr 20 20:08 UTC 1996 |
Right, no point in having ARCnet cards! :)
I'm supposed to own a house Real Soon Now, and while it isn't very big
there ought to be some rough attic space a few things could be piled into.
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albaugh
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Apr 22 18:50 UTC 1996 |
Anally retentive: Is there a better term to use than "dues"? A subtotal of
monthly credits & debits would be lovely. :-)
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aruba
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response 11 of 38:
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Apr 22 22:55 UTC 1996 |
I don't understand what you're asking for, Kevin. Just for credits and
debits to be summed up separately? Sure, I can do that.
Credits: 1220.00
Debits: 1179.24
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ajax
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response 12 of 38:
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Apr 23 10:03 UTC 1996 |
I think he was asking for that, and separately for a word other than
"dues" to be used, like maybe "donations" or something(?).
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davel
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response 13 of 38:
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Apr 23 10:59 UTC 1996 |
But those are two different things.
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albaugh
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response 14 of 38:
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Apr 23 15:23 UTC 1996 |
Yep, 2 separate, totally unrelated things. :-)
1) Just wondering if there's a better word to use than "dues", since the
spirit in which the $ is received don't feel like "dues". But if there
ain't, there ain't!
2) I was asking for subtotals (#11) of the credits & debits so that I could
see at a glance how the month was financially speaking.
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aruba
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response 15 of 38:
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Apr 23 16:18 UTC 1996 |
OK, I'll try to remember to put in the subtotals next month. Thanks for the
suggestion. Dunno about "dues"; *maybe* donations is a good substitute, I
don't know.
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mdw
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response 16 of 38:
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Apr 23 16:42 UTC 1996 |
The usual terminology (as used by museums, pbs, etc.) is "donation".
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rcurl
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response 17 of 38:
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Apr 23 21:38 UTC 1996 |
"Dues" is a regular minimum donation to enroll you in the class of
"member". Members - and non-members - are invited to make big donations
often, but that quantity that qualifies you to vote, etc, is called "dues".
Some organizations call it the "dues donation".
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mdw
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Apr 23 22:17 UTC 1996 |
Dues are not voluntary contributions, they are a payment or obligation
required by law or custom, and as such the term has many legal
implications which may or may not be appropriate here. Not being a
lawyer, I am not entirely sure what those legal implications are, but
one I think might apply is that dues would seem to imply a form of legal
contract, and as such, it is possible that people who paid "dues" could
compel us to deliver on the contract or refund the balance. It is also
possible that we might have considerably less freedom to arbitrarily
change membership rates, or offer special deals to some. I've noticed
that other organizations most similar to us scrupulously avoid the term
"dues"; if we have some fondness for the term, I suggest we consult a
lawyer and determine the risk before proceeding.
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aruba
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response 19 of 38:
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Apr 23 22:23 UTC 1996 |
Oh good lord. I don't give a rat's ass about the word. How about
"member contributions".
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steve
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response 20 of 38:
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Apr 24 00:37 UTC 1996 |
Heh. You have to remember Mark: Grex'ers are a wordish bunch--we
use words to talk to each other. I'm not surprised that there is
talk about this.
I like member contributions, myself.
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rcurl
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response 21 of 38:
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Apr 24 04:10 UTC 1996 |
They are "dues" in law - consult Michigan Consolidated Laws. They are also
fully tax exempt for non-profit 501(c)3 (and some other) organizations -
see IRS Regulations on "dues" for such organizations. I don't mind if
Marcus wants to consider them as fully tax exempt "payment or obligation
required by law or custom" for charitable non-profits, but "dues" has
fewer syllables, and they must be set, and called "dues", by the
organization's board or other procedure specified in the bylaws (some
organizations require a member vote, some just a board vote).
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mdw
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response 22 of 38:
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Apr 24 05:27 UTC 1996 |
Ah. Luckily, the people who drafted the bylaws had more brains than I.
It may well be that pbs & other organizations avoid the term "dues", to
avoid the legal implication of a "voting" member--in which case, Rane is
right, dues are just fine.
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ajax
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response 23 of 38:
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Apr 24 05:29 UTC 1996 |
<grin> Oh no Mark, you typed the word dues, you're responsible
for it, dammit! Defend your word choice! :-) (In case nobody's
thanked you for the thankless task of treasuring lately, thanks!)
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srw
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response 24 of 38:
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Apr 24 07:18 UTC 1996 |
They are "dues" because they are an obligation which you must pay if you
wish to remain a member. I think it is a fine word. It is membership that is
optional.
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