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nephi
Adding a .nowritemesg file to write Mark Unseen   Apr 9 21:10 UTC 1996

It has been suggested that Grex should add an option to write, chat, tel (and
perhaps talk?) so that people could edit a file that would get displayed
whenever a person wrote someone who had his or her message permissions off.
It has been suggested that perhaps it could be put in a .nowritemesg file,
and that perhaps it should have a maximum length.  

This item is for discussing the possible addition of that.  
12 responses total.
steve
response 1 of 12: Mark Unseen   Apr 9 21:25 UTC 1996

   I'd like something akin to that, but after the message is
displayed to them, let them decide if they still want to go
ahead and contact me.  I am getting a lot of writes each day
now, where someone just wants to talk.  I don't quite have
the time for that anymore.  But I'm always willing to help
someone (I never have helper flags on--people just seem to
flock to me) if they need it.  If I had the ability to display
a short message saying that, I'd appreciate it.
janc
response 2 of 12: Mark Unseen   Apr 9 23:27 UTC 1996

Yeah, there have been two different proposals for "answering machine" message.
One would be printed if permissions are off, and the other would be printed
if permissions where on, followed by a question asking if you still wanted
to talk to steve.

I don't know why this is a policy item.  I can't imagine anyone being against
this.  It's mostly a matter of me taking the time to figure out how this
should be done.  The whole connection procedure in write is already pretty
darned complicated and adding more if's and unless's into it can make your
head spin.  Next folks'll want a whole voice-mail system built into there.
carson
response 3 of 12: Mark Unseen   Apr 9 23:39 UTC 1996

re #1: try mesg -H y and running most programs with the "amin" tag.
        Jan's man pages for the program can probably tell you more
        than I could.

re #2: That'd be neat. =)
brighn
response 4 of 12: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 00:07 UTC 1996

Curious, STeve, what's the difference between that and a friend's
list?  Actually, it seems to me that it's almost the opposite... the
people who respect you enough to not bug you when you're busy would
go away, and those who think their problem is quite easily the most
imperative issue since the Dawn of Man ("I have a 5-1/4 inch disk,
why isn't it fitting into my 3-1/2 inch drive?  Do I need to fold it?")
would bother you.  (Not that I'm rooting particularly for a friend's
list, but your idea seems far worse...)
(er, rather, far more susceptible to abuse)
kerouac
response 5 of 12: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 00:17 UTC 1996

couldnt this be done in conjuction with popcorn's idea of making 
tel's a default option?  
steve
response 6 of 12: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 02:26 UTC 1996

   Paul, the idea I talked about in #1 would apply to all people
writing, not just a select few.  Thats the difference, if I understand
the friends list correctly.  It's a large difference as I see it.
robh
response 7 of 12: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 09:04 UTC 1996

Re 3 - I used to, and people would see:

        robh is currently busy running sz
        do you still want to write to robh?

And promptly enter "y", and then wonder why I wasn't responding
to them.  Not a good solution.  (Remember, a lot of the people
who want to write me don't know what "sz" is.)
davel
response 8 of 12: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 10:43 UTC 1996

So make your own link to the sz program called busy_with_file_transfer or
something.  Or is amin smart enough to resolve links?
janc
response 9 of 12: Mark Unseen   Apr 12 16:55 UTC 1996

For "sz" you really want to do "amin -n sz" which turns your messages off
while you are running the program.  Of course the user just gets a "permission
denied" message, so there is nothing telling the user to try again later or
anything like that.
mdw
response 10 of 12: Mark Unseen   Apr 17 09:42 UTC 1996

If you do this, be sure to expand out or strip any control characters.
Otherwise, you get people who discover they can "flash" people...(sigh)
janc
response 11 of 12: Mark Unseen   Apr 18 13:36 UTC 1996

Noted.
sidhe
response 12 of 12: Mark Unseen   Apr 21 04:59 UTC 1996

Like it.
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