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Agenda for the November 20, 1996 Grex Board meeting. Mark Unseen   Nov 15 11:53 UTC 1996

 
 Agenda for 11/20/96 Board Meeting
 
 1.     Initial Gavel Pounding - scott                  < 1 minute
 2.     Treasurer's Report - aruba                        5 minutes
 3.     Computer Rehabilitation Committee - scott         5 minutes
 4.     Publicity Committee - mta                         5 minutes
 5.     Technical Committee - STeve                      20 minutes
 6.     Membership and running for Board                 20 minutes
 11.    T1 Connection                                    20 minutes
 12.    New Business - all                              ???
 13.    Final Gavel Pounding - scott                    < 1 minute
 

Notes:
The "Membership and running for Board" item is about whether people should
be members to run for Grex's Board of Directors.  We seem to be pretty solid
on Board members having to be Grex members, but we currently have one or more
people nominated for the Board who are planning to become a member if they
get elected.
27 responses total.
popcorn
response 1 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 17:49 UTC 1996

Another item: adding Jeff Kaplan to staff.
tsty
response 2 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 20:01 UTC 1996

even, 'become a member *again*.'
srw
response 3 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 17 06:12 UTC 1996

Another item: Should we enforce 1 member = 1 vote.
chelsea
response 4 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 17 15:39 UTC 1996

Re:  #3  See Coop, item #130, #97.  Please.
srw
response 5 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 07:36 UTC 1996

and the following discussion, as well.
kerouac
response 6 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 00:35 UTC 1996

Why not just say that non-members can run for the board, but if elected and
they choose not to join, they must abstain from all votes unless their vote is
needed to make a quorum.  

Either that or require non-member board members to abstain from all votes
regarding allocation of funds.
albaugh
response 7 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 05:14 UTC 1996

No & no!
robh
response 8 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 06:22 UTC 1996

Uh, and what if all seven Board seats are occupied by such members?
rcurl
response 9 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 07:13 UTC 1996

(Sigh...) - non-members can't be board members.
tsty
response 10 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 08:07 UTC 1996

between the election and the installation, a pern can fulfil the
prerequsites of beingon the borg - reinitiate membership.
steve
response 11 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 14:41 UTC 1996

I too would prefer to see members elected to board positions.  I don't
think it unreasonable to ask that someone have enough interest in Grex
to be a member before they run for election.
e4808mc
response 12 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 16:15 UTC 1996

Re #6:  There he goes again!
<Thank you to Ronald Reagan <I think>>. 
kerouac
response 13 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 16:37 UTC 1996

#12...hey, I havent even been on in the last week and a half, and this
issue has stayed afloat just fine.  The bylaws are vague enough that
they dont backup a definite statement (as rcurl made) that
non-members cant serve on the board or run for theboard. As long
there are non-members showing interest in running, the issue needs
to be addressed.
popcorn
response 14 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 19:27 UTC 1996

Hey, I notice that neither this item nor the motd says where the meeting will
be held.  I'm assuming it's at the ITI cafeteria, since nobody has said
anything different?
scott
response 15 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 22:41 UTC 1996

It was a little scarey, but I finally heard back from ITI.  We will be in the
ITI cafeteria as usual.

 Directions to ITI:
 Take US-23 to the Washtenaw Ave. exit (exit 37B).  This puts you on Washtenaw
 Ave, going West.  Turn right onto Huron Parkway.  This winds and twists for
 quite a while.  Turn right on Hubbard, then make your first possible left into
 ITI (which has a hard-to-read silver sign out front).  Watch out for handicap
 parking spaces when you park -- there are a lot of them.  Inside ITI, go
 straight back to the funky toys in the lobby.  Turn left, and the cafeteria
 is ahead and to the left.
 
 On Huron Parkway, if you reach Plymouth Road, you've gone too far.
 
 Another way to ITI is to take US-23 to the Plymouth Road exit.  Go West on
 Plymouth Rd, to Huron Parkway.  Turn left onto Huron Parkway.  Hubbard comes
 up pretty quickly from that side of town; turn left onto Hubbard and then take
 the first possible left to get to ITI.
ajax
response 16 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 23:51 UTC 1996

  One other thing to add to the agenda, if possible: a while back, in
item 99, I suggested adding to our web page a "Golden Key Campaign" link
to the Internet Privacy Coalition's web site.  It seemed to get a receptive
response in the item, but I keep forgetting to ask that the board officially
approve the addition.  If this is considered too short notice, it can wait
until the next board meeting, but it has been discussed online previously.
kerouac
response 17 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 16:36 UTC 1996

Query:  If there is not (as looks apparent?) going to be a member vote
on the questions of anonymous reads and whether fair witnesses
can control whether their confs are offred through Backtalk, then
the board should reconsider those issues at tonight's meetings.

Since Valerie has never made a formal motion for a member-wide vote on
this, as she was going to, these issues still need to be addressed.
popcorn
response 18 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 00:17 UTC 1996

I'm still going to start that member vote about anonymous reads in Backtalk.
I'm waiting until after the board election, so we don't have two separate
votes running simultaneously.
tsty
response 19 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 14:03 UTC 1996

won't additional readers of backtalk load the TinyLink more?
  
beside, anon reading is a bad idea.
ajax
response 20 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 17:35 UTC 1996

  That you think it's a bad idea, and others think it's a good idea,
is why it will be put up for a vote.
steve
response 21 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 00:44 UTC 1996

   We support anonymous reading of the conferences right now.

   It's called "newuser".  There is nothing that we do to ensure
that we have the slightest idea who it is, behind the logins we
have that are created here, every day.

   Backtalk is just another way to read things.
nephi
response 22 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 07:16 UTC 1996

(I couldn't agree more with Steve in #21.)
dang
response 23 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 16:46 UTC 1996

Also, because backtalk runs through Cgi-bin, webcrawlers and indexers won't
look at it. So, someone doing a search on the web won't get backtalk screens,
even if anonymous reading is turned on.
dpc
response 24 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 19:20 UTC 1996

Could someone translate #23, please?  Are you saying that someone
coming into Grex from the WWW can read/write through Backtalk, but
that this text can't be detected?
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