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Grex member opinion survey Mark Unseen   Aug 17 02:46 UTC 1996

  Following are the compiled results of a survey I sent out to Grex's 92
members in early July, with an end-of-July deadline.  43 surveys, or just
under half, were returned.  One member's mailbox was full, one member's
account was gone, and two replies were for a jointly-paid membership on
one account (I decided to count both).
 
  The request and survey is in /u/ajax/survey.  Results for questions 1-18
(given below) are in /u/ajax/results1 (264 lines), answers for question
19 (given in the next item) are in /u/ajax/results2 (149 lines), and
comments for questions 1-18 are in /u/ajax/outtakes (422 lines; not in
an item - they're there if you're particularly curious).
 
  On some non-specific answers, I tried to clarify them for tallying
purposes; e.g., when a was range given, (30-40 hrs), I averaged, or
when a multiple choice answer was C+, I stripped the +.
 
  NOTE: THIS ITEM TEXT GOES FOR ANOTHER TEN SCREENS OR SO.  If you don't
want to read it, type "q" at a "press space bar to continue" prompt.  Then
type "1" at the "Respond or pass?" prompt to just read people's responses.
 
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1. Where did you hear about Grex?
 
  21 - Friends/word of mouth
   7 - Heard of it before grex came on-line (including founders)
   5 - Read about (2 in AA Observer, 1 in PFC Connector, 1 in AA News, 1 in ?)
   4 - Meetings (2 at JCC sale, 1 at AACS meeting, 1 at CE)
   3 - Surfing (gopher.msu.edu, metronet list at library, & unknown)
   2 - On M-Net
 
2. Roughly how long have you been using Grex?
 
  Average: About 2.6 years
 
  0-1 years  8 (19.0%)
  1-2 years 11 (26.2%)
  2-3 years  9 (21.4%)
  3-4 years  6 (14.3%)
  4+ years   8 (19.0%)
 
Seven respondees were in the 60-61 month range, which is the length of
Grex's existence.
 
 
3. Roughly how long have you been a member?
 
  Average: 1.6 years
 
  0-1  21  (50.0%)
  1-2  10  (23.8%)
  2-3  4   ( 9.5%)
  3-4  4   ( 9.5%)
  4+   3   ( 7.1%)
 
4. What is your occupation, age and gender?  (Remember, skip if too nosy!)
 
  GENDER               OCCUPATION
 
  Male   31 (75.6%)    Computer/Technical: 12
  Female 10 (24.4%)    College students: 7
                       Retail: 4
  AGE                  Clerical: 3
                       Medical: 3
  10-20  7 (17.5%)     Writing: 2
  21-30 10 (25.0%)     Teaching: 2
  31-40  9 (22.5%)     Law enforcement: 2
  41-50  9  (7.5%)     Pre-college students: 2
  51-60  3  (7.5%)     Business: 1
  61+    2  (5.0%)     Law: 1
                       Theater: 1
 
  2 are retired, but I counted them under things they do now.
  1 is a homemaker, but I counted them under their part-time work.
  Many students also had jobs, but I listed them as students.
 
5. What city do you live in?  If Ann Arbor or Ypsi, what part of town?
 
  Ann Arbor: 22 (55.0%)
    Distribution of areas was very even
 
  Ypsilanti/Pittsfield Township: 10 (25.0%)
    Mostly northwest area
 
  Other Michigan cities: 6 (15.0%)
    Saline, Plymouth, Southfield, Dowagiac, Alpena, Marquette
 
  Other states: 2 (5.0%)
    Illinois, Massechussetts
 
6. How many hours a week do you sit in front of a computer?
 
  Average: 34.6
 
   1-10   4  (10.3%)
  11-20  13  (33.3%)
  21-30   4  (10.3%)
  31-40   1   (2.6%)
  41-50   3   (7.7%)
  51-60  10  (25.6%)
    61+   4  (10.3%)
 
  (Uncountably high: 3 - not used for average or percentages)
 
  Several people who responded under 20 hours a week added comments
  such as "way too much."  The person who responded 84 did not.
 
7. How many hours a week do you think you spend using Grex?
 
  Average: 11.4
 
    0-5  14  (35.0%)
   6-10   7  (17.4%)
  11-15  13  (32.5%)
  16-20   0     (0%)
  21-25   3   (7.5%)
  26-30   2   (5.0%)
    31+   1   (2.5%)
 
8. What percentage of time do you connect to Grex by dailing
   in directly versus telnetting in from the Internet?
 
  90-100% dial-in  23  (56.1%)
  11-89% dial-in    8  (19.5%)
  0-10% dial-in    10  (24.4%)
 
  One respondee reported dialing in 50% of the time, telnetting in
  25% of the time, and using the console 25% of the time.  :-)
 
9. What share of time on Grex do you spend on various activities?
   For example, 30% e-mail, 40% conferences, 20% party, 10% lynx.
   (There are plenty of other activities you could list).
 
  Averages, of 39 respondees:
 
  Conferencing: 44%
  E-mail:       26%
  Party:         8%
  Lynx:          7%
  Maintenance:   6% (includes writing help-seekers, board stuff)
  Telnet:        5%
  Misc.:         4% (includes talk, games, ftp, talk, irc)
  
10. Grex's board of directors is made up of volunteers.  How do you rate
    their effectiveness and responsiveness in "governing" Grex and
    representing its members?
      A) Poor  B) Mostly poor  C) Mixed  D) Mostly good  E) Great
 
  A   1   (3.2%)
  B   0     (0%)
  C   2   (6.5%)
  D  15  (48.4%)
  E  13  (41.9%)
 
  Only 31 people responded; several weren't familiar enough to comment,
  while a couple abstained because they were board members.
 
11. Grex's technical staff is also made up of volunteers.  How do you
    rate their effectiveness and responsiveness to your and Grex's needs?
      A) Poor  B) Mostly poor  C) Mixed  D) Mostly good  E) Great
 
  A  0      (0%)
  B  0      (0%)
  C  2    (5.7%)
  D  16  (45.7%)
  E  17  (48.6%)
 
  35 people responded; again, several weren't familiar enough to comment,
  while a couple abstained because they were staff members.
 
12. Phone lines are a big expense for Grex, but people still get busy
    signals when calling.  While nobody likes busy signals, how annoying
    is the current level of busy signals to you?
      A) No problem             D) Quite annoying
      B) Rarely annoying        E) I HATE IT
      C) Moderately annoying    n/a) I hardly ever dial directly anyway.
 
    A   2   (4.8%)
    B   7  (16.7%)
    C  15  (35.7%)
    D   5  (11.9%)
    E   3   (7.2%)
  n/a  10  (23.8%)
 
13. All available telnet ports are also filled up a lot of the time.
    How annoying is the current "busyness" or "wait to telnet in" to you?
      A) No problem             D) Quite annoying
      B) Rarely annoying        E) I HATE IT
      C) Moderately annoying    n/a) I hardly ever telnet in anyway.
 
    A   4   (9.5%)
    B   5  (11.9%)
    C  10  (23.8%)
    D   7  (16.7%)
    E   4   (9.5%)
  n/a  12  (28.6%)
 
14. Grex members have few capabilities that non-members have
    (primarily voting, and being able to telnet *from* Grex).
    Do you feel Grex should...
      A) allow even non-members to telnet from Grex.
      B) leave this as it is.
      C) consider limiting some minor capabilities of non-members
         (e.g., only members could add party noises)
      D) consider limiting some major capabilities of non-members
         (e.g., deny e-mail, or make some phone lines "members only")
 
  A   1   (2.6%)
  B  23  (60.5%)
  C   9  (23.7%)
  D   5  (13.1%)
 
  There were a *lot* of comments on this.  Several people put B or C,
  except "make phone lines members-only."  Asking about specific
  restrictions may have been a better question.  See the outtakes to
  see what people wrote.
 
15. Was the benefit of being able to telnet from Grex to other systems
    among the reasons you originally became a member?
    Would it be among the reasons you'd renew your membership?
 
  No/no    20  (46.5%)
  Yes/no    9  (20.9%)
  Yes/yes  12  (27.9%)
 
16. Party, Grex's main multiuser chat program, is arguably the most
    popular attraction on Grex.  But some detractors say that it drains
    Grex's resources, thereby detracting from other services, such as
    conferencing, that Grex should promote.  What is your feeling?
      A) Party should be shut down.
      B) I lean toward shutting it down.
      C) No opinion on this topic.
      D) I lean toward leaving it in place.
      E) Party should be left in place.
 
  A   1   (2.6%)
  B   4  (10.3%)
  C  15  (38.4%)
  D   7  (17.9%)
  E  12  (30.1%)
 
17. While Grex's budget is fairly tight, and improvements cost different
    amounts of time and money, how would you rank the importance of the
    following improvements?  (Place a 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 in the blanks, in
    the order you deem appropriate.)
      __ Keeping Grex up during power outages
      __ Adding Usenet news access to Grex
      __ Getting a better (faster) Internet link
      __ Adding more modems and phone lines
      __ Speeding up Grex's main computer
 
            People who ranked it
             #1  #2  #3  #4  #5
             --  --  --  --  --
  Outages     0   4  10   5  20
  Usenet      3   9   2  12  15
  Internet   15   8  10   5   2
  Phones     13   8   9   6   3
  CPU Speed   8  12  12   8   0
 
  This is a hard one for which to present succinct statistics, since the
  table above doesn't show the number of people, say, who felt a faster
  Internet link was more important than more phone lines.
  
18. Do you think you'll renew your membership when it expires?  If not,
    or if you're not sure, what are your reasons?  Is there something
    Grex could do that would make you want to renew?
 
  No            2   (4.9%)
  Probably not  1   (2.4%)
  Maybe         1   (2.4%)
  Probably      3   (7.3%)
  Yes          34  (79.1%)
 
  Some yesses had qualifications, mostly along the lines of Grex
  maintaining its current quality.
15 responses total.
tsty
response 1 of 15: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 00:44 UTC 1996

interesting results - thankxx for the efforts.
popcorn
response 2 of 15: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 06:27 UTC 1996

Wow!  Thanks for doing this survey, Rob.  This is fascinating reading.

I'm surprised by the number of people who became members to use telnet and
other members-only services.  I knew that was common a year or so ago, but
thought most people who wanted telnet tended to buy real ISP accounts today.
ajax
response 3 of 15: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 06:46 UTC 1996

I was surprised at a few things, too.  I didn't think so many members
primarily telnetted to Grex.  I also expected higher reports of annoyance
getting into Grex (people most commonly chose C, or Moderately Annoying, 
for both dialing and telnetting.  The general satisfaction with the board 
and staff, while not exactly surprising, is encouraging; it speaks well of 
both groups.
sidhe
response 4 of 15: Mark Unseen   Aug 27 01:13 UTC 1996

(referring to a bit of email with ajax:)
You're right, Rob.. posting might not have been needed- it seems very few
actually care..
nephi
response 5 of 15: Mark Unseen   Aug 27 03:09 UTC 1996

I beg to differ.  Although I had no comments on what was posted, I am
definitely glad to have the information that this survey generated.  
adbarr
response 6 of 15: Mark Unseen   Aug 27 10:21 UTC 1996

Yes, the survey was worth doing. The work is appreciated. Ditto nephi.
popcorn
response 7 of 15: Mark Unseen   Aug 27 19:27 UTC 1996

Ditto to what nephi and arnold said.  Many thanks Rob!
arthurp
response 8 of 15: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 03:11 UTC 1996

I was also very interrested in the results.
dang
response 9 of 15: Mark Unseen   Sep 25 18:35 UTC 1996

Yah, me too.
kaplan
response 10 of 15: Mark Unseen   Oct 23 05:55 UTC 1996

A discussion elsewhere in coop got me to thinking again about the idea of
denying outgoing telnet to everyone, not just non-members.  Here is why I
like to be able to telnet out of grex:

I have an account on an ISP so I usually telnet from there instead of
grex.  But my ISP account is ppp only, so if I want to check my mail or do
anything else on my ISP from a anyplace besides my computer, where ppp is
setup, I like to be able to telnet to there from grex.  Also there have
been times when there is a problem on my ISP's local dial-ins but I can
still telnet from grex to there to check the mail. 

It would be a bit inconvenient for me personally to lose outgoing telnet
access, but I'm also a bit bothered by the idea that grex gives membership
perks.  

So although I use telnet, losing telnet access would not bother me
enough to make me want to stop being a member.  How much member support
would we lose (or gain) if we dropped the telnet access?  That's a
question that this survey did not cleanly answer, but I think it's worth
considering.  

But I hope I don't lose the telnet access without enough time to
consider getting a new ISP account!  :-)
ajax
response 11 of 15: Mark Unseen   Oct 23 15:59 UTC 1996

  The survey didn't directly ask that, but touches on the topic.
Outgoing telnet was a factor in about half the respondents'
initially becoming a member, and would be a factor in about a
quarter of the respondents' membership renewals.  I don't think
members would vote to get rid of this ability, but if they did,
I think we'd lose a fair amount of support as a result (like 15
or 20 members after a year, if I had to guess).
arthurp
response 12 of 15: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 01:39 UTC 1996

I wouldn't go away now if telnet did, but Telnet is why I started paying, and
for a long time I would have gone away had it...
ladyevil
response 13 of 15: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 21:22 UTC 1996

Just curious- is there any thought to doing something smaaler but similar with
nonmembers?
ajax
response 14 of 15: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 06:18 UTC 1996

  I gave it some thought, and decided not to do it at this time.
You're welcome to give it a go yourself.  It can be rather time-
consuming.  One difference in surveying a bigger group is that
it's probably impractical to send surveys to all of them, so
you've got to pick a sample somehow.  If it's fairly random, I
think you'll get a lot of non-respondants, because at any given
time, it seems like about 2/3 of the 14,000 or so Grex accounts
have been abandoned.  It would probably be better to survey the
last couple hundred users who have logged in.  (I'd survey
all of them, and if you're interested, separate members vs.
non-members after the fact).
ladyevil
response 15 of 15: Mark Unseen   Nov 27 22:03 UTC 1996

It's a thought. At least then you'd have the opinions of those who use grex
often..
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