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Grex > Coop6 > #56: Should avi have his "Flood"? |   |
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lettermn
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Should avi have his "Flood"?
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Dec 17 22:38 UTC 1994 |
Lately I have had some problems on grex with one of the users (avi). He made a
file that is used to mess up some one's terminal, and makes a lot of annoying
beeps. I most of the grexers call it the flood, but it isn't called that in
avi's directory. (You can't view the files in avi's directory.) I was talking
to one of the grex helpers about it, and they said that avi should not have
that file. And that it was an issue some time ago. It it right that he has
that file, and continues to use it to bug people? Please comment on this
issue. I hope that some of the staff members see this.
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robh
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response 1 of 33:
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Dec 17 22:55 UTC 1994 |
Um, didn't you send mail to staff, as I suggested?
(Yes, big surprise, I am the help lettermn refers to, and I
did not mean to imply that my *opinion* of the flood program
was anything more than my opinion.)
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ryan1
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response 2 of 33:
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Dec 17 23:45 UTC 1994 |
Yes I sent mail to the staff, but I didn't get a responce.
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srw
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response 3 of 33:
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Dec 18 01:53 UTC 1994 |
As a staff member I saw conflicting claims from ryan1 and avi.
They both wrote to staff, and I have no idea which one to believe.
As a general rule, if there is a file in avi's directory which has the
purpose of messing up others, then I would tend to side with the
others in such a debate. I would publicaly ask avi to delete that file
and never bring files to Grex which are hurtful.
I have done no investigation of this matter, and I am not one who normally
does so. This is my personal opinion only.
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popcorn
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response 4 of 33:
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Dec 18 02:38 UTC 1994 |
Exactly ditto to what srw said.
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steve
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response 5 of 33:
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Dec 18 05:03 UTC 1994 |
Flood is a wonderful little script which doesn't work quite right.
It does however finally throw the person off Grex.
Just like flash.c, it has no place on Grex. Delete it, Avi.
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avi
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response 6 of 33:
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Dec 18 05:29 UTC 1994 |
Wow, people are talkin about me here.
Just for the record, letterman and ryan1 are the same person.
BUT anyway! I do have that flood script in my directory, it is a simple
script file that changes the perms on your home directory.
I have not told any user to ever run it. And I have not used it,
because that defeats the purpose. (Why would I want to screw myself up?)
I originally had it just sitting there, which was a huge problem. Because
our little friend here ryan1 went tellin everyone to run it. I quickly
depermed it. Then I renamed it so people wouldn't ask about it any more.
people assumed that I renamed it becauase I was in trouble. Wrong. So, i
renamed it to flood, but deperming it. Because I have nothing to hide. flash.c
is another story. That was always depermed. I never compiled it. Actually, I
just had a look at my directory. I don't even have flash.c I must have
deleted that a long time ago. Anyway, I Have nothing to hide. Please feel free
to look at my directory. Go ahead and run acheck on all my processes. I
honestly have nothing to hide. I'm not an angel, but I have learned to behave
myself.
-Avi
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turgon
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response 7 of 33:
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Dec 18 05:59 UTC 1994 |
hello everyone,
i'd just like to throw my two hundredths of a dollar in while i still
have my youth. i wasnt present to witness any of the aforementioned
occurences, however, i'm willing to back avi a hundred and three percent.
me an av met here, and coincidentally enough, his cousin is one of my friends.
well, enough with the bullshit, i'd trust avi with my testicles (i can say
that right?). so there.
-alo*wish*ious
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jwp
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response 8 of 33:
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Dec 18 08:02 UTC 1994 |
I would also have to stand up for avi's account of event's...ever since
ryan1 (mister psedou himself) has been around he has been constantly
attacking avi and causeing file read problems in party...by constantly
reading in files and not stopping when asked to causeingparty goes to set
noshowread...He is constantly attacking avi and has run around behaving
like a two year old with his I-hate-avi club...he has become rather
bothersome...so I do belive the problem lies more with ryan1 then with avi...
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srw
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response 9 of 33:
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Dec 18 19:31 UTC 1994 |
I am not making any judgment on the merit of who told who to run what.
A script that is hurtful is the responsibility of the person who has it.
Avi has it, and people are running it, so I would say that this entire
difficulty is due to that. If Avi had deleted the file when he first found
out it was being used, then his arguments would sound more convincing.
The presence of a hurtful file is indicative of bad intentions.
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ryan1
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response 10 of 33:
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Dec 18 20:06 UTC 1994 |
Yes. lettermn and ryan1 are the same person, but I have a perfectally good
reason for having 2 accounts. avi (at one piont, but not anymore) totally
ruined my social life on grex. So I got another account. go ahead and delete
it. I don't need it anymore. Avi and i have decided to try to get along now.
And for that flood file, it was used on me a couple of times. But now I have
enough trust in avi to not use it anymore. And I doubt if avi still has it.
Sorry to cause some un needed discussion. And as for you jwp, I.
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avi
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response 11 of 33:
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Dec 18 20:32 UTC 1994 |
Wait a second here. You put this big complaint, because 'I ruined your
social life' I should think not. Ryan, YOU ruined your own social life.
I just pointed it out more. That's like tellin a cop he ruined his
chnaces of getting a job because he arrested someone -- okay not a good
comparion, but I think you know what I mean, even thought I can't be compared
to a cop. But, still I didn't ruin any social life.
As for the other case at hand, that file. I had depermed it and renamed it.
How would deleting it change things drastically?
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kentn
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response 12 of 33:
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Dec 18 21:02 UTC 1994 |
Deleting the suspect file will remove any doubt as to your intentions, avi.
Go ahead and delete it.
Then, please take your disagreement with ryan1 to e-mail.
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avi
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response 13 of 33:
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Dec 18 22:25 UTC 1994 |
Done. The file is deleted after this message, and This chapter is closed.
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steve
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response 14 of 33:
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Dec 19 00:03 UTC 1994 |
Thanks!
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gerund
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response 15 of 33:
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Dec 19 15:15 UTC 1994 |
geeze
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tsty
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response 16 of 33:
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Dec 20 04:29 UTC 1994 |
I'm glad staff permitted the option for the file-owner to do the
work on the file instead of unleashing the root-sledge.
That practice could apply to all of us.
also sounds as if someone was filtering through avi's directory
(while it was permed pubic) and "trying things." avi seems not
to have +announced+ its existance, so a "borrower" did the deed.
glad it's over so quickly, and done in public too.
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avi
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response 17 of 33:
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Dec 20 21:37 UTC 1994 |
I have but one last question. I only ask that this item be deleted.
I feel like a criminal with it here and I would hate for people
to read this and write -c help and get me and say "uhh..nevermind..
i don't need help as bad as a thought" So please? Would it be too much
to ask to have this item removed?
Thanks anyway
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kentn
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response 18 of 33:
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Dec 21 02:17 UTC 1994 |
Sounds like a reasonable request to me.
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chelsea
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response 19 of 33:
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Dec 21 03:43 UTC 1994 |
Killing this item would not be the best way to get it out
of the way, which is your intent. Instead, I'll write the
author, lettermn, and ask if it he'd be willing to have it
retired and frozen.
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kentn
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response 20 of 33:
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Dec 21 04:15 UTC 1994 |
What is Grex's policy regarding slanderous or "let's pick on Joe X"
items? If I were Joe X and an item had been entered about me for the
purpose of making me look bad or to stir up trouble for me, I'd be
a bit upset about having to depend on the item's perpetrator's good
will in retiring and freezing the item (given that person's original
intent in entering the item). On the other hand, Grex has never been
a system that went in much for censorship, which freezing an item
might be considered if done by staff.
There's potential trouble here (any way you look at it, it seems).
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chelsea
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response 21 of 33:
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Dec 21 04:37 UTC 1994 |
I'd like to give this one a chance to end amicably between the
parties involved.
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srw
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response 22 of 33:
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Dec 21 05:04 UTC 1994 |
Wholeheartedly agreed.
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carson
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response 23 of 33:
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Dec 21 10:39 UTC 1994 |
it's not likely. ryan1 has picked fights ever since he first logged in.
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gerund
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response 24 of 33:
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Dec 21 14:03 UTC 1994 |
We, er... THEY do grow up in time.
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