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dpc
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Campaign E-Mail From Valerie
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Jan 29 16:54 UTC 2004 |
This morning I got a campaign e-mail from Valerie urging me to vote
against the pending member proposal to undelete the baby diary item.
I don't know how large the target audience for this e-mail was.
I vaguely remember a controversy last year over the sending of
mass e-mails. I don't know if this one falls into the same
category.
This e-mail had two senders. One was valerie@unixmama.com.
The other was jv@auddo.pair.com.
Was sending this e-mail a violation of any Grex policy or practice?
Regardless of any policy or practice, would it have been better
if Valerie had stuck to posting items for discussion instead?
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gelinas
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response 1 of 184:
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Jan 29 17:03 UTC 2004 |
The message I received was sent to my grex account from outside of grex.
So no, this doesn't fall into the category of "mass mail sent from grex",
nor was it a violation of Grex policy. I would prefer it not become a
regular practice, though.
As for your second question, I can only suggest taking that up with her
directly.
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jp2
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response 2 of 184:
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Jan 29 17:13 UTC 2004 |
This response has been erased.
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other
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response 3 of 184:
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Jan 29 18:34 UTC 2004 |
If the email wasn't sent *to* you, it wasn't intended *for* you.
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jared
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response 4 of 184:
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Jan 29 18:49 UTC 2004 |
re #0
i got one too, it was not from grex and not to grex.
i don't see any problems with it.
re #2
heh, from the same person who sent me a campaign e-mail
for BoD. like #3 says, it's not for you.
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polytarp
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response 5 of 184:
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Jan 29 18:57 UTC 2004 |
I sent Valerie a campaign E-mail.
I'll post it here:
Oh, wait, I just remembered:
I didn't save a copy.
You're more than welcome to ask Valerie for one.
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jp2
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response 6 of 184:
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Jan 29 19:32 UTC 2004 |
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albaugh
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response 7 of 184:
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Jan 29 19:54 UTC 2004 |
The human known on grex as valerie or popcorn is certainly entitled to lobby
whomever she wishes via whatever means she can devise re: this vote.
I already expressed my recommendation for a *YES* vote in item #75.
I think that knowing about her lobbying reinforces my feelings on why the
proposal should be passed.
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jp2
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response 8 of 184:
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Jan 29 20:07 UTC 2004 |
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cmcgee
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response 9 of 184:
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Jan 29 20:17 UTC 2004 |
Well, emotional arguments not based on fact, policy or precedent CAN be
persuasive. If an argument makes sense to me, I don't have to vote against
it just because you tell me that my reasoning doesn't make sense to you.
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gull
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response 10 of 184:
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Jan 29 20:27 UTC 2004 |
Her message didn't contain any information that would be new to anyone
who reads co-op. It was just a recounting of the personal content of
the item and her discovery that it was being parodied on mnet.
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cyklone
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response 11 of 184:
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Jan 29 22:15 UTC 2004 |
"personal favors for favored persons"
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gelinas
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response 12 of 184:
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Jan 29 22:32 UTC 2004 |
(I've yet to see much real logic from jp2. Lots of emtion *claiming* to be
logic, but no logic.)
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remmers
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response 13 of 184:
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Jan 29 23:06 UTC 2004 |
I received a copy of the mail and assumed it was sent to all members.
As far as I know, there was no policy violation - "mass mail" is a problem
if it taxes systems resources, but I think this was done in such a way as
to void that.
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jp2
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response 14 of 184:
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Jan 30 00:59 UTC 2004 |
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naftee
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response 15 of 184:
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Jan 30 01:55 UTC 2004 |
remmers locked your account?!
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gelinas
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response 16 of 184:
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Jan 30 03:11 UTC 2004 |
(That's the difference a choice in machinery can make.)
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albaugh
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response 17 of 184:
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Jan 30 18:23 UTC 2004 |
> assumed it was sent to all members
I am quite certain that is not the case.
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dpc
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response 18 of 184:
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Jan 30 19:06 UTC 2004 |
Well, the thing was plainly not addressed to me personally.
The list of who is a Grex member is public, isn't it?
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tod
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response 19 of 184:
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Jan 30 19:07 UTC 2004 |
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tod
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response 20 of 184:
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Jan 30 19:09 UTC 2004 |
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keesan
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response 21 of 184:
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Jan 30 20:19 UTC 2004 |
My voting was influenced by the fact that Valerie is a nice person who has
done a lot for grex, probably much of it beyond the call of duty. I would
much rather just have lost the items and not Valerie with them.
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happyboy
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response 22 of 184:
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Jan 30 21:32 UTC 2004 |
*sigh*
my vote was influenced by valerie's online personality
as well.
*sigh*
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tod
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response 23 of 184:
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Jan 30 21:59 UTC 2004 |
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cyklone
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response 24 of 184:
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Jan 30 22:23 UTC 2004 |
Personal favors for favored persons!
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