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polytarp
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Free Speech
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Jan 24 01:44 UTC 2004 |
In the past hour, my willcome account was killed, though I don't know by whom
or for what. However, I suspect this conversation had something to do with
it:
Telegram from gelinas (root) on ttyq4 at 20:03 EST ...
please stop re-entering the same item, over and over, in agora
EOF (gelinas)
Telegram to ttyq4...
Msg: It's Greek Week.
SENT
Telegram from gelinas (root) on ttyq4 at 20:03 EST ...
That is no excuse. Please stop.
EOF (gelinas)
Of course, it wasn't an excuse. I don't need an excuse to help with Greek
Week, an exciting even sponsored by the silly hat fund meant to revive and
review Grex's Greek origins. For some reason, gelinas had a problem with
this, and, apparently, abridged my Grexist freedom of speech to stop it.
Please fix this.
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dah
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response 1 of 79:
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Jan 24 02:19 UTC 2004 |
Apparently, gelinas is willing to lie to get his way:
" I just locked willcome's account because of his script that created some
one
hundred new items in agora."
Anyone can see that I didn't post anything close to one hundred items.
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glenda
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response 2 of 79:
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Jan 24 02:21 UTC 2004 |
Sorry, but I think that 72 copies of the entire text of Plato's Republic is
closer to one hundred items than it is closer to once.
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dah
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response 3 of 79:
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Jan 24 02:23 UTC 2004 |
I think gelinas's statement's closer to a lie than the truth.
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gelinas
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response 4 of 79:
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Jan 24 02:39 UTC 2004 |
I didn't count the items. I substracted the last item number I saw from
the last item number I remembered.
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dah
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response 5 of 79:
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Jan 24 02:44 UTC 2004 |
Are you drunk? I ask only because you seem to talk about beer for hours in
party, and use words like "substracted". Maybe that's why you abridged my
right to free speech.
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naftee
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response 6 of 79:
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Jan 24 04:43 UTC 2004 |
heh, yeah, "GreX staffer gets caught drunk on Job"
(biblical reference courtesy for J. Gelinas)
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albaugh
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response 7 of 79:
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Jan 24 05:59 UTC 2004 |
I don't just think - I completely know - that willcome's actions were those
of a total asshole, and that said account must never be unlocked, ever, for
any reason whatsoever. If it is of any consolation, let it be known that s/he
went out in a blaze of futile stupidity.
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jaklumen
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response 8 of 79:
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Jan 24 11:42 UTC 2004 |
Suddenly I'm that much more glad I'm not reading agora anymore :)
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ryan
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response 9 of 79:
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Jan 24 16:43 UTC 2004 |
This response has been erased.
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ryan
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response 10 of 79:
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Jan 24 16:45 UTC 2004 |
This response has been erased.
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janc
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response 11 of 79:
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Jan 24 17:00 UTC 2004 |
I feel Joe's actions were entirely appropriate and would have done the same
in his place.
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scott
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response 12 of 79:
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Jan 24 17:26 UTC 2004 |
Ditto.
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remmers
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response 13 of 79:
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Jan 24 17:32 UTC 2004 |
Same here.
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cross
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response 14 of 79:
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Jan 24 18:46 UTC 2004 |
I did do the same thing in Joe's place once, with the same user, so yeah,
I concur.
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naftee
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response 15 of 79:
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Jan 24 19:00 UTC 2004 |
Acutually, joe was far less enthusiastic with locking accounts than you were.
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richard
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response 16 of 79:
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Jan 24 19:12 UTC 2004 |
I agree and since all those items have the same text, I think you could kill
all but one of them and not be reasonably accused of censorship. I don't like
the kill command, I think moderators shouldn't have it, but cfadmin and root
needs to have it for such situations
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naftee
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response 17 of 79:
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Jan 24 20:01 UTC 2004 |
You forgot about "retire" again. That's why you're uncomfortable.
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md
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response 18 of 79:
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Jan 24 20:19 UTC 2004 |
I'd've deleted all the items and killed the account and never given it
a second thought. Of course, I also edited dah's responses in the mnet
Agora cf to make it sound like he was calling himself an asshole, so
I'm a terrible example. I would hope nobody on Grex would ever do such
a thing. That would be totally reprehensible in a conference like
Agora on Grex. So don't do it. I mean it.
I should add that when I saw the first Plato's Republic item, I was
hoping the others would each be another classic, like Moby Dick, War
and Peace, Paradise Lost, Pride and Prejudice, and so on. That would
have been cool in a geeky way. But then I found out they were all the
same and so just geeky and uncool.
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keesan
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response 19 of 79:
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Jan 24 20:33 UTC 2004 |
Can we decide to put a size limit on all responses and automatically (or
manually) kill anything that exceeds the limit, as well as all copies of
anything entered in more than 2 copies (to allow for errors)? Would this
require a member vote? Five pages of text seems like a reasonable limit to
me (25 line pages). I tend not to read things longer than that anyway.
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janc
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response 20 of 79:
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Jan 24 21:10 UTC 2004 |
I don't think we need to write a new policy every time some poor staff member
has to change polytarp's diaper. Clean up the mess, and get on with life.
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bhoward
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response 21 of 79:
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Jan 25 03:20 UTC 2004 |
The posted items were clear abuse. Joe's response was entirely appropriate.
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jaklumen
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response 22 of 79:
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Jan 25 10:24 UTC 2004 |
I have to agree. resp:18 Interesting thought... if they were all
different, well, that might have been one thing. But it was just
clear spam.
I wasn't reading this crap, but I figure the action taken as described
was appropriate... you had a point to prove again, polyboy?
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md
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response 23 of 79:
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Jan 25 13:25 UTC 2004 |
Nope. He just wants to be noticed. Is that so wrong?
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kip
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response 24 of 79:
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Jan 25 14:20 UTC 2004 |
nah, and I should be able to scream at the top of my lungs the same thing over
and over and over again standing in the middle of my favorite restaurant
without fear of repercussion.
right....
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