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jp2
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Expel the Troublemakers
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Jan 12 18:19 UTC 2004 |
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gull
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response 1 of 44:
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Jan 12 18:24 UTC 2004 |
Kick out people who disagree with you. Now *there's* a fine example of
supporting free speech.
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jp2
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response 2 of 44:
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Jan 12 18:25 UTC 2004 |
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gelinas
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response 3 of 44:
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Jan 12 18:39 UTC 2004 |
(Which argument could be used to find you not in support of the Preamble
and so eligible for expulsion.)
It seems to me that the present unpleasantness is educating several,
intellectually enriching others, and entertaining some. The removal of
a few items has not hendered, indeed, has enhanced, the interchange of
information and ideas, if not necessarily "peaceably".
I find no ground to support your proposal.
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other
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response 4 of 44:
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Jan 12 18:51 UTC 2004 |
The premise presented in sentence one of paragraph two of response
#0 is false, or at least unsupported by the evidence, rendering the
conclusion irrelevant. No action of the sort proposed is either
appropriate or called for.
Note: Article III, Section c. of the bylaws reads as follows:
c. The BOD shall make decisions related to system maintenance,
staff responsibilities and appointments, and issues related
to daily business.
I believe that determining eligibility for membership falls clearly
under "issues related to daily business" and is therefore the sole
and exclusive province of the Board of Directors.
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jp2
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response 5 of 44:
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Jan 12 19:00 UTC 2004 |
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other
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response 6 of 44:
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Jan 12 19:04 UTC 2004 |
Prove it. This is an issue of qualification for membership, an
issue which is plainly essential daily business of the organization.
Only in exceptional circumstances is the issue controversial, and in
all other circumstances, the Treasurer -- a member of the Board --
makes the determination as a matter of course. Provide some
evidence to contravene this.
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jp2
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response 7 of 44:
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Jan 12 19:06 UTC 2004 |
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jep
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response 8 of 44:
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Jan 12 19:07 UTC 2004 |
If you can get 50% of the membership to vote for me to leave Grex, then
I'll voluntarily make a commitment to never return. That is, no
special software, or firewall rules, or anything of the sort, will be
necessary to get me to stop logging in.
Hmm, this is starting to feel personal, so I'll respond accordingly.
If you can get 50% of the members to vote that they'd rather have you
as a participant of Grex than me, I'll leave. (But I doubt if you'll
even get so far as to get the voteadm to set up the question.)
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other
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response 9 of 44:
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Jan 12 19:20 UTC 2004 |
Now there is an interesting proposal. In the interest of keeping
things entertaining and fun, I propose and amended proposal, to wit:
Let the membership make a choice between two options: 1) Kick jep
off of Grex; and 2) Keep jep, and kick polytarp/dah/willcome/naftee
off of Grex.
In the event of a tie vote, let jp2 be given the boot.
(I like these odds much better.) :):)
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ryan
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response 10 of 44:
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Jan 12 19:23 UTC 2004 |
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jp2
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response 11 of 44:
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Jan 12 19:27 UTC 2004 |
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gull
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response 12 of 44:
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Jan 12 19:32 UTC 2004 |
Just out of curiousity, is there precident for removing someone's
membership by member vote?
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jep
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response 13 of 44:
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Jan 12 19:34 UTC 2004 |
No, it has never happened nor has it been attempted. There have been
discussion items, where someone would offer to leave if there were
enough votes that he do so.
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willcome
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response 14 of 44:
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Jan 12 19:37 UTC 2004 |
(it's happened on M-Net.)
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gelinas
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response 15 of 44:
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Jan 12 21:03 UTC 2004 |
(This ain't M-Net.)
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willcome
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response 16 of 44:
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Jan 12 21:06 UTC 2004 |
How do you know?!
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jmsaul
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response 17 of 44:
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Jan 12 23:12 UTC 2004 |
It has not happened on M-Net, irrelevant though that is to Grex.
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willcome
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response 18 of 44:
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Jan 12 23:33 UTC 2004 |
Then how do you explain how did I lose my membership?!
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jp2
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response 19 of 44:
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Jan 12 23:39 UTC 2004 |
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naftee
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response 20 of 44:
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Jan 12 23:44 UTC 2004 |
re 9 If you haven't noticed, for once, the title of this item does not
refer to myself and willcome.
(Of course, we are not troublemakers at all)
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willcome
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response 21 of 44:
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Jan 13 00:10 UTC 2004 |
(whih is why the title doesn't refer to us.)
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jmsaul
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response 22 of 44:
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Jan 13 01:16 UTC 2004 |
Re #19: Let's take this discussion to M-Net, where you'll show me the
citizen initiatives in which their access was removed.
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naftee
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response 23 of 44:
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Jan 13 01:59 UTC 2004 |
Excellent idea! While we're at it, let's take the whole GreX
community there, as a kind of "cultural experience".
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willcome
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response 24 of 44:
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Jan 13 02:15 UTC 2004 |
Re. #22: the response uptop [0(00000)] is about membership, not access.
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