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jp2
Destroy item 39 Mark Unseen   Jan 11 16:59 UTC 2004

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138 responses total.
kip
response 1 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 17:15 UTC 2004

I'd like to encourage members to vote no on this proposal.  I think item 39
generated a discussion that was important and should be kept for later review.
willcome
response 2 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 17:33 UTC 2004

I vote yes.
gelinas
response 3 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 18:20 UTC 2004

Since it has become clear that the expectation of the grex community is that
item authors can NOT delete other people's commments in their items, I hope
this proposal is withdrawn or fails.  Its passage *would* set a precedent I,
at least, would prefere were not set.
naftee
response 4 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 20:49 UTC 2004

I vote ?
jp2
response 5 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 22:38 UTC 2004

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kip
response 6 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 01:17 UTC 2004

I'm sorry Jamie, I'll learn to speak more clearly than I did in item 68,
response 241.

I, as a member of staff, am opposed to removing item 39.

Valerie was not "The staff", she was one of several staff members.
janc
response 7 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 02:31 UTC 2004

If M-Net's treasurer embezzles the full contents of M-Net's bank account
and loses it in a slot machine, would you then declare that people
shouldn't give money to M-Net because it is the demonstrated policy of
M-net to gamble away it's funds?
jp2
response 8 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 02:41 UTC 2004

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jaklumen
response 9 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 02:45 UTC 2004

Good God.
kip
response 10 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 05:21 UTC 2004

Ah Jamie, I'm quickly learning why you're so loved here for your understanding
of the English language.

When someone is accused of a crime and undergoes a trial, do we assume that
the law broken is suddenly broken and null for all until the trial is done?

No.
naftee
response 11 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 06:03 UTC 2004

heh
naftee
response 12 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 06:04 UTC 2004

Nicely phrased, kip!
other
response 13 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 06:57 UTC 2004

As long as we're on the legal analogy, I'd like to point out that 
not all rulings which contravene previously standard practice 
actually establish valid precedent.
gull
response 14 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 16:11 UTC 2004

Re resp:5: The current policy is staff will only remove items if your
name is jep.
naftee
response 15 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 16:27 UTC 2004

Or, as they prefer, JEP.
gelinas
response 16 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 18:23 UTC 2004

(The current policy, as much as there is one, is that staff will not remove
items.)
jmsaul
response 17 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 23:09 UTC 2004

Re #13:  Remarkable how few people seem to understand that.
jlamb
response 18 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 23:11 UTC 2004

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jp2
response 19 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 15 03:46 UTC 2004

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kip
response 20 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 15 15:59 UTC 2004

Umm, to which address did you send that?  I only have the Jan 6th request in
my staff email account.
jp2
response 21 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 15 16:35 UTC 2004

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janc
response 22 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 15 17:04 UTC 2004

>> So, it's been like a week since I requested that coop:39 be killed 
>> because I don't like it.  I have received no response at all from the
>> staff and the item is still there.  Could I again request that it be
>> killed?

> As you know, it is not possible to delete the item in accordance to 
> Grex policy, so staff cannot act on this request.  If compelling reasons 
> were shown why it needs to be deleted, then it is theoretically possible 
> that either the board or membership might vote you a special exception
> which would enable staff to act.
>
> My guess as a non-board member is that unless the circumstances were far,
> far more compelling than any case now under consideration, it would be the
> preference of the board to defer that decision to the membership.  This
> seems to be possible in this instance, because having publically announced
> that you wish this item deleted, you clearly are not concerned that people
> might save copies before the item can be deleted if your desire to have it
> deleted was publicized.
>
> As such, the most effective way for you to waste as many people's times
> as possible while further burdening Grex's already cumbersome and 
> overloaded administrative processes with an idiotic attempt to make an
> imaginary point might be to enter a member proposal.
>
> I wish you all the luck in your endeaver that you deserve.
>
>                               - Jan Wolter
jp2
response 23 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 15 17:09 UTC 2004

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albaugh
response 24 of 138: Mark Unseen   Jan 15 18:19 UTC 2004

> As you know, it is not possible to delete the item in accordance to
> Grex policy, so staff cannot act on this request.

And just what *is* that policy, pray tell?!  If there were such a policy,
surely it was documented, and could be dragged out and posted for all to read.
And there would therefore be no need for the proposal on the subject now
alive in coop.

Either there is (was!) a policy or there isn't.  If there is, let's see it,
please.
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