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Grex > Coop13 > #72: Valerie Leaves Discussion Item! | |
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willcome
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Valerie Leaves Discussion Item!
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Jan 8 07:46 UTC 2004 |
This is the Valerie Leaves Discussion Item!
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richard
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response 1 of 64:
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Jan 8 08:14 UTC 2004 |
Valerie, why are you all of a sudden leaving? Is it because of that stupid
mnet agora conference item that parodied your baby diary? Somebody was having
fun and entered responses in a lot of known grexers names. I for one didn't
even know that item existed until I got your email.
If thats not it, couldn't you at least explain? And why is it necessary to
delete all your posts you've ever made? Suddenly you don't like grex so much
you don't want anyone to know you've ever been here? what gives?
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gelinas
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response 2 of 64:
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Jan 8 12:06 UTC 2004 |
NB: It looks like her script *is* removing her comments from this conference.
That is a huge loss to us all. Almost as large as the loss of her.
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gelinas
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response 3 of 64:
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Jan 8 12:21 UTC 2004 |
Apparently, it's removing the comments from items linked between this
conference and other conferences.
Not much sense in reading other conferences until her scripts finish; items
are continually being added to the list of those with "new" responses.
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willcome
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response 4 of 64:
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Jan 8 12:31 UTC 2004 |
Yeah, it's basically DoSing the system. Someone should block the IP address
being used to attack Grex.
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bhoward
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response 5 of 64:
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Jan 8 12:39 UTC 2004 |
For once, David, please give it a rest.
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jep
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response 6 of 64:
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Jan 8 13:08 UTC 2004 |
I am very sad.
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scott
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response 7 of 64:
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Jan 8 13:36 UTC 2004 |
This sucks.
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gull
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response 8 of 64:
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Jan 8 14:22 UTC 2004 |
I'm sorry to see valerie leave the system. I can understand people
getting burned out on being staff, and it sounds like she was feeling
that way long before the recent incident, but I hate to see it progress
to the point where they feel they need to leave the system entirely.
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cmcgee
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response 9 of 64:
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Jan 8 15:10 UTC 2004 |
One huge kill for the barbarians.
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aruba
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response 10 of 64:
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Jan 8 15:29 UTC 2004 |
I'm sad too.
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gull
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response 11 of 64:
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Jan 8 16:01 UTC 2004 |
Re resp:9: I don't think it's all their fault. Valerie said earlier
that part of the reason she decided to risk killing her own item is that
she no longer cared that much about keeping her staff position. I think
she was just plain burned out on it.
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jp2
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response 12 of 64:
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Jan 8 16:03 UTC 2004 |
This response has been erased.
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cross
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response 13 of 64:
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Jan 8 16:32 UTC 2004 |
It does suck that Valerie has decided to leave grex entirely.
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naftee
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response 14 of 64:
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Jan 8 16:38 UTC 2004 |
So sad.
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krj
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response 15 of 64:
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Jan 8 17:17 UTC 2004 |
Metaphor: it's like going to the Habitat for Humanity house that you
were helping to build and pulling out the nails you pounded in.
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albaugh
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response 16 of 64:
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Jan 8 17:27 UTC 2004 |
I am sad that valerie felt that she had to / wanted to leave grex, in
apparently every manner. I know that I have gotten help from her in the past,
as I am sure that others have, and that resource will be missed by all.
And I have to think that deep down, somewhere, valerie is very upset that she
has had to give up grex.
That being said, even though it is her right to scribble everything that she
ever entered, and it is her right not to care what bad effect that will have
on grex, I find that blanket scribble to have been a somewhat childish act.
Especially in fundamentally technical conferences such as info and web.
I think she could have departed with a bit more grace. However, it was her
right to leave in any manner she wished.
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cross
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response 17 of 64:
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Jan 8 18:12 UTC 2004 |
And the garage conference, that was a real loss.
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mta
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response 18 of 64:
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Jan 8 19:06 UTC 2004 |
Re resp:11: I think the reason she was burned out is pretty
self-evident.
Still, it is sad. The end of an era.
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richard
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response 19 of 64:
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Jan 8 19:29 UTC 2004 |
I think valerie may be overreacting to that parody item on mnet. that item
parodied her baby diary. now maybe she thinks that every thing she ever
posted is ripe for parody so she has to remove them all. If so, it seems like
a huge overreaction.
Valerie is one of Grex's founders, and I'm sure Grex would be a different,
lesser, place today had it not had her participation as board and staff
member in its early years. I mean who's been a bigger fan and supporter of
Grex over the years than she has?
Which makes her leaving so publicly, so completely all the more sad and
mystifying. When you leave that publicly, its like slapping this place in
the face. Like maybe she's hoping other people will follow her example and
abandon the Grex. She could have left quietly, not even told anyone, but
she didn't. She left publicly. She wanted people to know she was
leaving. That implies she's angry and has an agenda. Does she not like
what Grex has become? Does she wish it was still just a local dialup bbs
for the Ann Arbor community?
Or is Valerie now saying that she thinks Grex has failed in its purpose,
that Grex can no longer be what she wanted it to be?
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aruba
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response 20 of 64:
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Jan 8 19:42 UTC 2004 |
I doubt Grex would exist at all if it weren't for Valerie. I know I
wouldn't be here.
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gull
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response 21 of 64:
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Jan 8 20:06 UTC 2004 |
Re resp:19: I don't know. Personally, if Grex continues on the current
path towards allowing users to remove other users' writings that they
disagree with, I will have considered it a failure.
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cross
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response 22 of 64:
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Jan 8 20:23 UTC 2004 |
As will I.
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jp2
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response 23 of 64:
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Jan 8 21:01 UTC 2004 |
This response has been erased.
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davel
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response 24 of 64:
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Jan 8 22:13 UTC 2004 |
What cmcgee said. <SIGH>
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