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Grex > Coop13 > #377: Minutes from Grex Board of Directors Meeting, October 26, 2006 | |
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slynne
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Minutes from Grex Board of Directors Meeting, October 26, 2006
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Nov 29 03:19 UTC 2006 |
Grex Board of Directors Meeting minutes - Oct 26, 2006
In attendance: Lynne Fremont*; John Remmers*, Mary Remmers, Joe
Gelinas*, Mark Conger*, Jan Wolter*. * = board member
1. Staff Report
It was suggested that Dan Cross would like to do some work on grex that
would require that he have root access. A discussion followed where it
was mentioned that the usual way for a person to be given root access is
for the existing staff to ask the board to approve their choice rather
than the board just deciding. Generally technical decisions are left to
the staff.
The question of who gets to make technical decisions on grex was made.
The answer is that generally those decisions are made by staff
consensus. That was a policy that worked very well when most members of
staff were local but has been more difficult now that there are more
remote staff. Generally the process is that staff members take
initiative to make changes, hopefully with discussion first and then, if
no one else on staff objects, the changes stay. There is no formal
process, i.e. no one staff member gets the last word.
It was brought up that generally there is no current mission among the
staff and almost all of the work they are currently doing is
maintenance.
It was suggested that perhaps it might be a good idea for the staff to
have an ombudsman who could read garage.cf on a regular basis and then
make recommendations to staff since not all staff members have the time
to stay current with that conference and there are possibly many good
ideas for changes there.
It was suggested that the board consider what an appropriate reaction
would be when one board member takes root away from another.
2. Treasurer s Report.
We took in $1031 dollars in September and spent $198. There was one new
member (walkman) and four returning members. We have taken in $300 so
far in October with one new member (ringbark)
3. Next Meeting: November 28, 8p Zingermans.
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cyklone
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response 1 of 14:
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Nov 29 03:54 UTC 2006 |
So IS cross getting root access to work on email or not??? That whole bit
about staff consensus seems irrelevant to me unless there is some sort of
behind the scenes dispute about how to handle spam. If there is, where is the
online discussion? And if there is no dispute, then there's no reason to delay
giving cross root so he can work on the "quagmire."
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slynne
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response 2 of 14:
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Nov 29 03:57 UTC 2006 |
I think the answer is that unless the current staff recommend that he be
given root, he will not be.
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keesan
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response 3 of 14:
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Nov 29 04:13 UTC 2006 |
The meeting ended about 9:20. Slynne has set a new record on fast posting,
and this was not a simple issue to summarize. Great job!
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spooked
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response 4 of 14:
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Nov 29 09:56 UTC 2006 |
I'm very happy I resigned.
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cmcgee
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response 5 of 14:
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Nov 29 13:08 UTC 2006 |
Does this mean that the board did not take any action, and that staff will
continue to disfunction?
I am perplexed about why staff would need an ombudsperson to read their own
conference and summarize it. While I am mindful of the need to respect
staff's judgment, I don't understand why lack of clear staff direction means
that the board cannot come to consensus and provide that direction.
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jep
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response 6 of 14:
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Nov 29 13:35 UTC 2006 |
View hidden response.
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jep
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response 7 of 14:
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Nov 29 13:37 UTC 2006 |
(In the erased response, I asked a question which I then found the
answer to.)
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cyklone
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response 8 of 14:
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Nov 29 13:48 UTC 2006 |
Re #2: I'm with cmgee on this. It seems to me grex is at a critical point in
its history. Former staff is drifting away and new staff is not being trained.
There are critical issues that need to be addressed sooner, rather than later
(mail and security, to name two). The board is sitting on its hands saying
it will defer to staff. If staff doesn't reach a consensus to grant cross
root, what does that say about the long-term viability of grex? Will the board
allow grex to be hamstrung simply because of staff's inaction? I'm very
disappointed by what I would consider to be the board's lack of real
leadership.
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keesan
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response 9 of 14:
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Nov 29 16:55 UTC 2006 |
It is the November meeting that ended at 9:20 and Slynne apparently posted
both Oct and Nov right after that.
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cmcgee
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response 10 of 14:
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Nov 29 18:12 UTC 2006 |
After reading further in this conference, I'm satisfied that the board moved
ahead with this problem. I had missed that this was the October minutes.
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cross
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response 11 of 14:
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Nov 30 04:18 UTC 2006 |
(Or, if not me, then anybody....)
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naftee
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response 12 of 14:
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Nov 30 07:37 UTC 2006 |
cyklone's resp:8 is bang on
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eteepell
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response 13 of 14:
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Jan 1 21:09 UTC 2007 |
I'm thinking it would be good to open up the restriction a little, perhaps
anyone using root for any purpose should provide good documentation on
changes being done, have some core members approve changes quickely by
concensus. Let the board decide a specific ceiling to the gravity of changes
made. ie.
allow control of root to 3 people
board decides root for maintenance only, and allowing trusted access to solve
spam, denial of service issue(s).
a trusted admin proposes solution to issue (ie. spam). admin posts complete
documentation of solution.
the same 3 people discuss issue, wait for comments, if solution is not going
to break something, and no negative comments, root is given. solution is
applied.
Just a thought.
Is anyone thinking anything like that? What I'm thinking would obviously have
to be discussed and changed dramatically.
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cross
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response 14 of 14:
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Jan 2 04:16 UTC 2007 |
That's actually not a bad idea.
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