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indoguy
i can make good design Mark Unseen   Jun 14 04:32 UTC 2006

i can make better design for this grex website.
i 'll do it for free if you dont mind.for my promotion.
i need a job here...
34 responses total.
slynne
response 1 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jun 14 05:20 UTC 2006

I dont doubt that our web site could use a redesign.But since we are a
volunteer organization, we have never hired anyone for that work. Am I
to take it that you are offering to do the site as a volunteer?
nharmon
response 2 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jun 14 12:06 UTC 2006

How about a Grex website design contest? Then the membership can vote
for the winner. It'll be strictly voluntary...with the prize being, say,
a free year's membership?
slynne
response 3 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jun 14 16:03 UTC 2006

I like the idea of a contest actually. It could be fun. 
tod
response 4 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jun 14 19:52 UTC 2006

Best spyware designer award goes to Ivan Davidovitch!
ric
response 5 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jun 15 17:23 UTC 2006

re 1 - slynne, quoted from #0 "i 'll do it for free"

sounds like a volunteer to me!
nharmon
response 6 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jun 15 17:36 UTC 2006

I'll participate in a design contest. Just be sure to clearly set out
the rules and specifications.
jep
response 7 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jun 15 19:14 UTC 2006

Grex has no paid staff members.  Resp:0 looks to me like the gentleman
is looking for a (paying) job and is offering to demonstrate his skills.
cross
response 8 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jun 15 20:34 UTC 2006

I think a contest is a good idea.  Just the HTML on grex's home pages is
woefully out of date.
ric
response 9 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 14:59 UTC 2006

re 7 - it looks to me like he's looking for a paying job, but not from Grex,
he wants to use Grex to demonstrate his skill in order to get a paying job
elsewhere.  I'm not sure what part of "I'll do it for free" confused people.
tod
response 10 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 19:02 UTC 2006

"It"
slynne
response 11 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 01:00 UTC 2006

I havent published the board meeting minutes yet but the board voted to
hold a web site design contest. I am in charge. I will be posting
details soon. 
nharmon
response 12 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 03:18 UTC 2006

Any word on granting a license to use the Grex logo on Wikipedia?
naftee
response 13 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 12:51 UTC 2006

unlucky
slynne
response 14 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 13:20 UTC 2006

resp:12 Oh shoot. I forgot to bring that up.
nharmon
response 15 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 13:37 UTC 2006

Its okay. Next time! :-)
scholar
response 16 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 04:56 UTC 2006

re. 12:  wikipedia will no longer use images that are specifically licensed
to it.  the image either has to be in the public domain or released under one
of a number of free licenses.

since this would mean pretty much anyone could use grex's logo for pretty much
anything they wanted, it's probably not a good idea.
nharmon
response 17 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 12:50 UTC 2006

Wikipedia allows images that are copyrighted if they are used in a way
that conforms to fair use. This includes logos of companies. 

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Logos

I just thought it would be polite to ask the Grex BoD first.
scholar
response 18 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 17:08 UTC 2006

"Generally, logos should be used only when the company and its logo are
reasonably familiar (or when the logo itself is of interest for design or
artistic reasons)", and so it fails the fair use test.
nharmon
response 19 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 18:45 UTC 2006

You don't think the Grex logo is reasonably familiar to those familiar
with Grex?
scholar
response 20 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jul 7 02:42 UTC 2006

Probably not to most of them, but it's talking about the general public, not
the Grex public.
nharmon
response 21 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jul 7 12:14 UTC 2006

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:MCCClogo.gif

Is the logo of some small community college in Monroe, Michigan
reasonably familiar to the general public?
nharmon
response 22 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jul 7 12:17 UTC 2006

Anyway, I feel that Grex's logo would meet Wikipedia's guidelines. If I
am wrong, it most likely will get deleted.
slynne
response 23 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jul 7 13:17 UTC 2006

I imagine that grex's logo would meet Wikipedia's guidelines too
scholar
response 24 of 34: Mark Unseen   Jul 7 16:42 UTC 2006

Re. 21:  The image violates Wikipedia's policies because it contains a slogan
when a version without a slogan is also available.  However, note that
Wikipedia's image policies concerning fair use of institutions of higher
learning and corporations differ.
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