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krj
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Brainstorming: Grex Blogs
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Feb 16 21:07 UTC 2006 |
This item is to explore the idea of installing some sort of
existing, open-source blogging package on Grex. Does any such
thing exist and is it supportable in Grex's environment?
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krj
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response 1 of 113:
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Feb 16 21:08 UTC 2006 |
My motivation for starting this page is that last night, I ran
across the LiveJournal pages for two more people who used to
be active in Grex BBS and party.
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nharmon
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response 2 of 113:
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Feb 16 21:55 UTC 2006 |
Well, we could start by removing the restriction on CGI.
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mcnally
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response 3 of 113:
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Feb 17 01:36 UTC 2006 |
Only if we want to be invaded by an army of phishers..
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remmers
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response 4 of 113:
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Feb 17 12:57 UTC 2006 |
The only open source blogging package that I know much about is
Wordpress. For this, we would need to install PHP and give users access
to it. I imagine that the security implications of user access to PHP
are similar to CGI access.
I believe that Jan Wolter is working on blogging support for Backtalk
(and by implication, Fronttalk), but I don't know the current status of
that project.
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spooked
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response 5 of 113:
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Feb 17 13:17 UTC 2006 |
Can we move to a real operating system (i.e. that supports Java)? I dare
say, I would be writing a lot more software (and a lot of cool software
already exists out there) for such a platform. It seems OpenBSD was
chosen primarily because of its purported security (note well, my
background is in security), but this was neither absolutely necessary nor
wise in terms of software applications available, stability, nor support.
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keesan
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response 6 of 113:
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Feb 17 13:30 UTC 2006 |
There is some free online tax software that requires java, but I don't know
of any text browser that supports it. What would the ordinary user of grex
do with java? Most of us don't write programs here.
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spooked
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response 7 of 113:
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Feb 17 13:44 UTC 2006 |
The coolest web applications and libraries for software development are in
Java. And, I'm sorry to say this to you Sindi but 99% of the Grex world
(or more?) likes the GUI web :)
Nevetheless, Java has huge support for text only interfaces, including
console and web browser.
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keesan
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response 8 of 113:
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Feb 17 20:22 UTC 2006 |
Could links at grex be set up to work with java?
Why would someone writing programs for use in a GUI compile them at grex,
which is text-only? Are you using the same OS on your own computer?
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spooked
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response 9 of 113:
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Feb 17 22:59 UTC 2006 |
Java is a very flexible language, and has libraries for just about
everything imaginable. It is also probably the most ( (popular) AND
(most widespreadly taught) ) language today. A lot of text-only
interfacing programs could be written in Java for Grex, but also a lot
of webfacing software (including blogs and portlets) could be "easily"
assembled from existing open-source efforts. I use Windows XP, Mac OS X,
Linux variants and Solaris (at home and work) - all of these platforms
support Java out of the "box". If we are to modernise, I think we need
to move to a platform that is more flexible and has a greater community
support base than OpenBSD. Mac OS X 10.3.9+, Linux, or Solaris 10 would
all be better solutions for Grex then OpenBSD (the latter two are free,
Max OS X is a small cost - about $120 US but I would happily donate a
version of it (I have both Panther and Tiger releases of Max OS X)).
Moreover, all existing C and Perl centric software on Grex would port
without too many dramas to either of these three platforms.
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mcnally
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response 10 of 113:
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Feb 18 01:58 UTC 2006 |
I am surprised to learn that Grex doesn't have a java compiler
and runtime environment.
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keesan
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response 11 of 113:
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Feb 18 02:04 UTC 2006 |
What is a Java plugin - is it the 13MB file I found somewhere? I am told I
need it to use one website (free online tax filing).
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spooked
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response 12 of 113:
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Feb 18 03:49 UTC 2006 |
http://java.sun.com/j2se/reference/faqs/index.html
The OpenBSD architecture is not supported by Sun/Java.
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cross
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response 13 of 113:
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Feb 18 03:58 UTC 2006 |
FreeBSD also has a rather complete port of the JRE, I believe.
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naftee
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response 14 of 113:
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Feb 18 05:28 UTC 2006 |
I've installed Java on FreeBSD before. I believe I used the ports.
It's kind of complicated, and you have to compile all sorts of files. It took
hours ; I ended up putting my laptop beside my window because it kept
overheating.
I never bothered downloading the JRE for windows once i installed it on
FreeBSD.
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mcnally
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response 15 of 113:
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Feb 18 06:54 UTC 2006 |
re #12: Not natively, but it appears there's a port of Sun's java,
or one can choose to use jikes.
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spooked
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response 16 of 113:
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Feb 18 11:21 UTC 2006 |
If an OS doesn't natively support Java, it is really not worth hacking it
- and especially frustrating trying to write cool applications with a
limited JVM.
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keesan
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response 17 of 113:
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Feb 18 20:42 UTC 2006 |
What is a JRE, a JVM, or a Jike?
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kingjon
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response 18 of 113:
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Feb 18 20:56 UTC 2006 |
JRE - Java Runtime Environment
JVM - Java Virtual Machine
jikes is a Java compiler
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keesan
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response 19 of 113:
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Feb 18 21:03 UTC 2006 |
Which one is the 'netscape java plugin' that is used with Opera to access
websites requiring Java? Or where do I find a java plugin for linux?
Is JRE similar to solibs?
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spooked
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response 20 of 113:
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Feb 18 23:28 UTC 2006 |
The Java Plugin is now part of the Java Runtime Environment (JRE),
and establishes a connection between popular web browsers and the
Java platform. In other words, the Java Virtual Machine - the engine
room/translation mechanism - of the Java language is utilised (by
whatever interface) to enable Java programs to be embedded and
interpreted in web browsers.
I recommend you make google your friend (and stick to modern GUI-based
browsers).
More specifically to your requirements, see
http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=459
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spooked
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response 21 of 113:
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Feb 18 23:35 UTC 2006 |
JRE has nothing to do with solibs.
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keesan
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response 22 of 113:
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Feb 19 00:09 UTC 2006 |
JRE for linux is just under 15MB compressed package. It is quicker to do my
taxes with a solar-powered calculator. The time consuming part was assembling
the information to be entered. What types of web pages require java besides
tax software?
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spooked
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response 23 of 113:
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Feb 19 00:22 UTC 2006 |
If you used *modern* technology, you would be surprised ***rolls eyes***
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naftee
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response 24 of 113:
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Feb 19 05:17 UTC 2006 |
actually ; she probably wouldn't be.
i almost exclusively use windows for web browsing now, and don't have the JRE
for windows installed (i installed it for FreeBSD). most of the cool stuff
is flash junk ; i've only come across some java junk that i missed out on.
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