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scholar
yeah baby why don't' you kill me Mark Unseen   Nov 11 03:50 UTC 2005

I have created an item in this very conference that houses copies of about
a dozen threats made against my person, my property, or my family.

How long will Grex's members allow it to be the "Wild West" of the Internet?

When are they going to step up and make it clear that death threats are NOT
welcome here?

I propose that the membership, board, and staff adopt policies to act against
death threats made using Grex.
28 responses total.
scholar
response 1 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 03:54 UTC 2005

Seriously.

Why are death threats allowed on Grex, when fun things like Greek Week aren't?
scholar
response 2 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 06:17 UTC 2005

warlord:  twenex you also threatened scholar??
twenex:   ...scholar
twenex:   on various occasions

warlord:  and here i thouhgt i was the only one :)
warlord:  i also threatened to slaughter him and his
          family
nharmon
response 3 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 22:13 UTC 2005

Freedom of speech, scholar.
scholar
response 4 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 22:18 UTC 2005

This is already turning into an absurd argument, but, if the definition of
free speech you're talking about predominates over all other maxims we want
to have, and it includes the right to make grievous threats against a person's
self, family, and property, free speech simply isn't something we want to
have.

When will Grex do more to protect its law-abiding users?
nharmon
response 5 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 22:21 UTC 2005

Scholar, if you believe that a crime has been committed, why don't you
call the RCMP? You are such a bitch sometimes.
scholar
response 6 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 22:32 UTC 2005

I am not going to call the RCMP because they a) don't have authority in my
jurisdiction and b) they don't have authority in the jurisdictions in which
the crimes were committed.

I don't think I'm being a bitch by thinking Grex ought to offer its users a
system which is as free of death threats as possible, but it doesn't matter
if you think I am.

In fact, it's utterly irrelevant.

However, I thank you for your post.  I am now considering contacting the local
police forces of people who have made threats against me.
nharmon
response 7 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 22:33 UTC 2005

Good for you. Now freeze this item.
scholar
response 8 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 22:59 UTC 2005

I'll freeze this item if Grex kills the accounts of all people who have
used Grex to threaten another user's life, family, or property.
naftee
response 9 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 05:09 UTC 2005

that's steVE's job
naftee
response 10 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 06:08 UTC 2005

i can't believe you missed this one !

twenex:   can we legally tie scholar up and drown him?
mcnally
response 11 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 07:36 UTC 2005

 I order for threats to be actionable there typically has to be a certain
 minimal level of plausibility to them.  Nobody, least of all you, believes
 that two users who don't even reside in the same *country* as you, are
 making threats against your life that deserve to be taken seriously.

 Indeed, if you were sensible you would probably thank them.  They've given
 you a pretext to momentarily focus on yourself the public attention that
 you desperately crave.

 I'll spare you the sugarcoating I usually put on this speech when people
 come to me to complain about what others have written, and give you the
 version which is stripped-down to the bare essentials:

    +  I'm not your Mommy.
    +  Nobody else on Grex is your Mommy, either.
    +  If those bad kids on the playground said something that hurt
       your feelings then you can either find a way to be friends
       with them or go play on another part of the playground.
scholar
response 12 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 07:43 UTC 2005

why won't you be my mommy?  /me yanks on mike's teat

seriously, folks, i don't find the distance of most of the users who make
threats against me a very decent reason to use to discount the seriousness
of such threats.

it's more than two users who have made death threats against me, and, in this
age of cheap international flights, what're the chances NONE of them will hold
true to their threats?


not enough to let me take it lightly.  no sir:  not when playing with my life.
scholar
response 13 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 07:46 UTC 2005

and no, folks, please don't think the fact that i was able to read and
write a five sentence response within ten minutes of mike making his somewhat
lengthy middle of the night post!

it's not what you think!

i swear.
tod
response 14 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 15:16 UTC 2005

Be sure to mention the weed you found in your room when you call the pigs.
nharmon
response 15 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 15:46 UTC 2005

For some reason, I have a feeling the weed is more likely to kill
scholar than anybody here on Grex.
twenex
response 16 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 17:27 UTC 2005

I wouldn't waste one microsecond in prison for that little shit.
scholar
response 17 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 17 15:33 UTC 2005

You are a very bad man, Jeff.
naftee
response 18 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 17 15:38 UTC 2005

scholar ! did you catch the threat in resp:10 ?!
scholar
response 19 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 17 15:39 UTC 2005

Go away.
naftee
response 20 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 20:01 UTC 2005

twenex likes bondage.
md
response 21 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 16:55 UTC 2005

scholar, you can't be all twittish and provocative and then get all 
righteous and serious when it doesn't go over. That way lies *Jamie*, 
fer chrissake. You're way better than that. 
scholar
response 22 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 19:47 UTC 2005

 :(
twenex
response 23 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 13:41 UTC 2005

That way lies Jamie?
md
response 24 of 28: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 00:16 UTC 2005

No, *that* way.
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