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jp2
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Condorcet Voting
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Oct 1 17:56 UTC 2003 |
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gelinas
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response 1 of 15:
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Oct 1 19:26 UTC 2003 |
What is "Condorcet voting"?
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remmers
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response 2 of 15:
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Oct 1 20:27 UTC 2003 |
See http://electionmethods.org/CondorcetEx.htm
It's questionable whether Condorcet voting (which I knew nothing about
until 5 minutes ago) is consistent with Article 4.d of the bylaws, and
so might require a bylaw amendment to adopt. Not to mention new voting
software. I doubt there's enough lead time for the 2003 election, but
it might be worth discussing as a possibility for next year.
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carson
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response 3 of 15:
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Oct 1 21:39 UTC 2003 |
(which version: basic, plain SSD, or "cloneproof" SSD? additionally,
it appears to be more ideal for elections for a single position as
opposed to multiple positions, which is what board races usually are.)
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other
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response 4 of 15:
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Oct 2 01:37 UTC 2003 |
For a multiple race election, it seems like the logical approach would be
to run the matrix for a single winner, and then repeat until all
available seats are filled, but in each repetition, remove from the
existing matrix all pairs in which winners of previous rounds are
defeated.
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carson
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response 5 of 15:
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Oct 2 02:06 UTC 2003 |
(isn't it also as logical to use the method once, reducing until only the
desired number of candidates remain?)
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asddsa
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response 6 of 15:
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Oct 2 02:39 UTC 2003 |
This is m-net deja vu
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dah
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response 7 of 15:
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Oct 2 02:59 UTC 2003 |
jp2 quite often enters things on both Grex and M-Net.
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cmcgee
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response 8 of 15:
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Oct 3 14:14 UTC 2003 |
Can we stick with Remmers program? It ain't broke, as far as I can see.
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asddsa
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response 9 of 15:
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Oct 3 23:29 UTC 2003 |
Remmers'
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jep
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response 10 of 15:
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Oct 13 02:54 UTC 2003 |
If someone wants to propose a change in Grex's voting method, I would
ask that they come up with an explanation to be placed on Grex as to
what it is, how it works, why it is better, and why we should switch
to it. I am not interested in doing the research myself and then
hoping the information I locate is what the author of the proposal has
in mind.
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ea
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response 11 of 15:
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Oct 13 04:42 UTC 2003 |
What benefit does Condorcet voting provide to Grex?
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aruba
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response 12 of 15:
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Oct 13 13:52 UTC 2003 |
We'd also need a specific set of rules for the voteadm to follow in deciding
how to resolve the votes. I'm open to the idea of a newfangled voting
method, but I'd like to see the details.
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jep
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response 13 of 15:
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Oct 13 15:33 UTC 2003 |
I did read through the site. Condorcet voting lets the voters rank
their votes. If there were an election with a contested seat between
there people, one could vote for one of them as their #1 choice,
another as their #2 choice, and the 3rd as their #3 choice. That way,
if you preferred #1 but didn't think they had a chance, and hated #3,
you wouldn't have to just vote for #2 to keep #3 from winning.
The site listed above touts this as a better method for voting for
president of the United States and other high-visibility elections with
numerous candidates but only two real choices (Republican and
Democrat). I take Jamie's entering of this item as being a "hey, look
what I just stumbled across" response, rather than a proposal that Grex
would be better off if it used Condorcet voting for it's elections.
I don't see any way that this could even possibly improve Grex. I've
rarely seen an election here where I thought there were *any* bad
candidates. Usually, there are 7 or 8 candidates for 3 seats, and my
impulse is to propose increasing the number of openings because I want
them all to win. I hardly ever want to vote against anyone, and voting
against people is what the Condorcet system is for.
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remmers
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response 14 of 15:
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Oct 13 19:30 UTC 2003 |
(I'll agree that Grex has been blessed with more good board
candidates than can be elected. But there's a logistic reason not
to increase board size -- the complexity of getting N people at
the same time and place for a meeting tends to increase faster than
linearly with N. It's hard enough with N = 7, the current number.)
I tend to agree with jep's estimate of the usefulness of this system
for Grex. However, if folks decide that they'd like to change to a
new election scheme, I'm certainly willing to look into automating
it via a new vote program. I'd need sufficient lead time, though.
As I said earlier, this year is out of the question.
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jesuit
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response 15 of 15:
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May 17 02:14 UTC 2006 |
TROGG IS DAVID BLAINE
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