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mary
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Twit Filtering
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Mar 10 22:45 UTC 2004 |
I wonder if Grex might be a more enjoyable place to spend time if more of
us used twit filters.
The reasons I'm going to set one up go like this - I don't want to waste
my online time looking a some of the vacuous stuff that's entered. Two, I
don't feel I'm any more obligated to read or view every response entered
here than I am to answer every single phone call or open every piece of
mail I get. Three, if I don't see it I won't be tempted even a itsy,
bitsy bit to respond. And that's a good thing.
But if I don't know how to set one up then I'm betting lots of people
don't know. So how is it done? Is the filter list private or world
readable? Once it's setup is it easy to turn on and off? Edit the list?
Does it slow down your session? Does the same filter work for both
telnet, ssh and Backtalk?
And then the most controversial question of all: is Grex at a point
where we should make it easier for newusers by right from the
get-go giving them filters (on by default) with instruction on how
to turn it off, if desired?
That last is a whopper change in philosophy, for sure. But I don't
see a whole lot of new people joining our community and I have to
wonder how much of it is due to our slow interface and how much of
it might be due to the way we look to someone not already taken with
our quirky ways. How would we administrate such a thing? Haven't
a clue. But I thought it might be time to talk about it.
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tod
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response 1 of 95:
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Mar 10 23:18 UTC 2004 |
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mary
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response 2 of 95:
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Mar 10 23:26 UTC 2004 |
Depending on the prose, yep, they just might.
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jp2
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response 3 of 95:
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Mar 10 23:28 UTC 2004 |
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salad
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response 4 of 95:
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Mar 10 23:37 UTC 2004 |
I'd like to have the source for the twit filter on GreX.
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salad
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response 5 of 95:
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Mar 10 23:38 UTC 2004 |
re 0 I volunteer for the twit administrator position.
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tod
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response 6 of 95:
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Mar 10 23:40 UTC 2004 |
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jp2
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response 7 of 95:
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Mar 10 23:48 UTC 2004 |
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mary
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response 8 of 95:
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Mar 10 23:54 UTC 2004 |
Re: #6 Yep.
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tod
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response 9 of 95:
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Mar 10 23:59 UTC 2004 |
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jp2
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response 10 of 95:
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Mar 11 00:01 UTC 2004 |
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glenda
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response 11 of 95:
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Mar 11 00:41 UTC 2004 |
When I read Grex, I am usually reading it as a member, not as staff. Why
shouldn't I have the same rights to use a twit filter as any other member.
Isn't telling me that I can't just because I am staff just as much of a
censorship as some of the other claims of censorship here? Why should it be
anyone's business who I filter or not, don't I have the same rights to privacy
as anyone else or does being staff make me a second class citizen with no
privacy or rights? If that is the case, maybe I will have to re-think
spending what little spare time I have doing unpaid work for this community.
I pay my membership dues that same as any other member. I am first, and
foremost, a member of the Grex community. My being on staff is secondary to
that. If being on staff means that I have to give up my rights to privacy
and to ignore twits...
(No I don't run a twit file and, currently, have no intentions to do so. But
I greatly resent the fact that it is felt that I shouldn't have to just
because I am staff. What is next, telling me that I can't type "forget" on
items that don't interest me, that I have to read every item in every
conference just because I am staff?)
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aruba
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response 12 of 95:
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Mar 11 00:51 UTC 2004 |
No one is entitled to be listened to. That's not something you can buy by
becoming a member of Grex.
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salad
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response 13 of 95:
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Mar 11 00:56 UTC 2004 |
Anyone who really wants their words to be read should find a way to circumvent
said filters.
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gelinas
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response 14 of 95:
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Mar 11 00:58 UTC 2004 |
(Not being a twit is a good way to start.)
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jp2
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response 15 of 95:
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Mar 11 01:18 UTC 2004 |
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rational
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response 16 of 95:
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Mar 11 01:26 UTC 2004 |
Re. 11: BEcause, as a Grex Staffist, you have an obligation to help its
users.
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krj
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response 17 of 95:
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Mar 11 02:31 UTC 2004 |
Wow, it's amazing how few responses I'm seeing in this discussion. :)
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glenda
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response 18 of 95:
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Mar 11 02:38 UTC 2004 |
Ok, since I have an obligation to always help Grex users with all problems,
I will soon be showing up on your doorstep with printouts with every item and
every response you have ever made on Grex under every user name you have used
and showing them all to your parent(s)/guardian(s). I will then ask them to
make sure you never have the wherewithal to login here again.
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rational
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response 19 of 95:
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Mar 11 03:12 UTC 2004 |
glenda, are you saying you have copies of things I've scribbled? I thought
we went over this censor log thing already.
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ea
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response 20 of 95:
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Mar 11 03:20 UTC 2004 |
As someone who's primarily a backtalk user, twit filters are less than
useful. Yes, backtalk does give you an option to ignore a user, but
their responses still show up, along with a link to see the ignored
text. It would be a bit more useful, IMHO, if it just completely
skipped their responses.
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glenda
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response 21 of 95:
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Mar 11 03:46 UTC 2004 |
Who says that I didn't make copies before you scribbled?
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salad
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response 22 of 95:
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Mar 11 04:08 UTC 2004 |
gkenda, if you're going to take the trouble to do this for polytarp, then
please endore jp2's request of printing out everyone's responses and asking
them if they want the items in which those responses occur to be deleted.
Thanks.
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russ
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response 23 of 95:
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Mar 11 05:23 UTC 2004 |
Re #0: I've repeatedly published instructions for Russ's Very Own
Twit Filter (you can call it RVOTF, a mouthful intentionally designed
so that you won't want to use it often). Did you miss them?
And regarding certain responses which I did not see (by design)
but can guess at from the references to them: if you want to
be treated like a human being, try acting like one.
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jp2
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response 24 of 95:
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Mar 11 11:24 UTC 2004 |
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