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slynne
Member Resolution Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:06 UTC 2004

In order to avoid an ongoing issue. I would like to propose that any 
backups of the baby diary items or jep's divorce items be erased so 
that they cannot be restored. 
42 responses total.
gelinas
response 1 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:08 UTC 2004

I don't know that that is possible, without destroying everything else on
the backup tapes.
cmcgee
response 2 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:10 UTC 2004

What about a new backup?  One that does not contain those items (like right
now).  How many backups do we keep before overwriting them?
ryan
response 3 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:12 UTC 2004

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jp2
response 4 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:12 UTC 2004

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gelinas
response 5 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:20 UTC 2004

The two most recent backups were a partial backup on 25 October 2003,
and a full backup on 9 June 2003.

I am currently holding eleven tapes, going back to November, 2000, in
off-site storage at my house.

Yes, we should make another backup of the system.
jp2
response 6 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:21 UTC 2004

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gelinas
response 7 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:23 UTC 2004

Staff does what it can, jp2.
jp2
response 8 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:23 UTC 2004

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ryan
response 9 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:26 UTC 2004

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scott
response 10 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:33 UTC 2004

STaff has been too busy discussing various nuisance proposals from jp2 to
perform regular backups.
jp2
response 11 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:44 UTC 2004

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krj
response 12 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:56 UTC 2004

Scott didn't say the staff were discussing the 
proposals *with* you, Jamie.
jp2
response 13 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:58 UTC 2004

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albaugh
response 14 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:19 UTC 2004

I consider this proposal to be a horrid idea.  I'm not interested in the items
being restored any more than anyone else who is not, but to deliberately
destroy data just to thwart what could be very valid proposals for item
restoration is a bad idea at best, and a waste of time at worst.
twinkie
response 15 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:48 UTC 2004

Without rehashing too much, let's not forget that one of jep's reasons for
wanting the content deleted was to protect him from possible legal issues.

How do you think it would look if a subpoena was issued for that data?
"Oh, sorry. We intentionally deleted it. But two thirds of us thought it was
a good idea!"

boltwitz
response 16 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:52 UTC 2004

Yeah.  Grex is aiding criminal(s) and/or criminal(s') enterprise(s).
jp2
response 17 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:54 UTC 2004

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albaugh
response 18 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:55 UTC 2004

It was not deleted for the purpose of evading or anticipating a subpoena.
The "best way" *this* proposal could be "met" is by performing another full
backup, one of these days, which would be missing the deleted items.  
Past full backup media would get recycled, I'm sure, and at that point the
items would be unrecoverable for all time.
naftee
response 19 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 21:54 UTC 2004

All cusers of GreX are criminals.
tod
response 20 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 23:06 UTC 2004

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twinkie
response 21 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 23:21 UTC 2004

re: 17
I don't know, but I'll bet Aaron does. 

re: 18
That's quite different from what jep said. He was rather clear in stating that
the "harm" he so desperately feared may come upon his child was indeed related
to his words being used against him in court.

It's one thing to make information private. It's something else to destroy
it. Short of a set tape rotation schedule that shows the items were
overwritten during the normal course of data preservation, it would be
difficult to avoid serious scrutiny.

tod
response 22 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 23:33 UTC 2004

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jaklumen
response 23 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 23:54 UTC 2004

resp:0 I say-- no, bad idea.
cyklone
response 24 of 42: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 00:24 UTC 2004

I oppose this proposal. I also think that people who posted in those items
should be permitted to retrieve his/her posts first.
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