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jp2
Member Resolution Mark Unseen   Feb 9 18:24 UTC 2004

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gelinas
response 1 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 18:28 UTC 2004

I really hope you will reconsider and not bring this to a vote, jp2.
It should be obvious that it will fail, and probably by an even larger
margin.  For example, I voted in favour of the motion the first time.
I will vote against it the next time, and on any subsequent occassions.

We lost.  Get over it.  Move on.
jp2
response 2 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 18:32 UTC 2004

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gelinas
response 3 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 18:32 UTC 2004

But it is NOT going to be undone.
jp2
response 4 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 18:33 UTC 2004

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tod
response 5 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 18:38 UTC 2004

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krj
response 6 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:22 UTC 2004

Apparently we do need a bylaw revision calling for a period before revoting, 
to stop Jamie from introducing this proposal a third time around the end of 
February.
ryan
response 7 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:24 UTC 2004

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krj
response 8 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:51 UTC 2004

So, how about those Grammy awards, eh?    I heard the White Stripes had a
pretty good appearance, did anyone else catch them?
jp2
response 9 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 19:55 UTC 2004

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other
response 10 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:12 UTC 2004

I'd strongly oppose a bylaw amendment which specified a period of time 
between repeat propositions or propositions which are effectively 
repeats.  I would, however, support one which gave the voteadm 
discretion, subject to review by the board in the event of complaint, 
to not bring to vote any proposal the voteadm considers to have been 
proposed spuriously or with intent to annoy rather than to reasonably 
effect change.
albaugh
response 11 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:14 UTC 2004

I too would rather that jp2 hadn't re-created this proposal verbatim.
However, s/he is within his/her rights to do so, certainly more than the
item killer.  But I recommend a NO vote to this, should it ever come to 
a vote.  The membership has spoken, and it's time to move on, get over it.
jp2
response 12 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:32 UTC 2004

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jp2
response 13 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:33 UTC 2004

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jp2
response 14 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:34 UTC 2004

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other
response 15 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:41 UTC 2004

Suggested modification:






jp2
response 16 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:42 UTC 2004

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robh
response 17 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:43 UTC 2004

I'm willing to vote "no" on this proposal at least as many times as
jp2 is willing to propose it.  (I can actually envision it becoming
a ritual, continued long after everyone has forgotten what the items
were about...  Hey, this could be the start of a new religion!)
twinkie
response 18 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:44 UTC 2004

It is much easier to read, though.

other
response 19 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:46 UTC 2004

Thanks!  Readability was a chief concern, and I worked long and hard 
into^H^H^H^H on it.
boltwitz
response 20 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:50 UTC 2004

Re. 0:  !!!
albaugh
response 21 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:52 UTC 2004

I have nothing to suggest as to rewording.  This is a clone of the proposal
which failed, which did not do so due to lack of clarity.  It failed because
enough members looked but didn't buy.  There will be no binge buying on the
same merchandize.
jp2
response 22 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:53 UTC 2004

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albaugh
response 23 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 21:05 UTC 2004

jp2, let's practice getting a grip, shall we?
jp2
response 24 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 21:07 UTC 2004

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