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aruba
Cyberspace Communications finances for January 2004 Mark Unseen   Feb 1 19:13 UTC 2004

Here is the treasurer's report on Cyberspace Communications, Inc. finances 
through January 31st, 2004.

Beginning Balance     $4,390.70

Credits                 $330.00         Member contributions
                          $5.00         Repayment of bounced check fee
                          $1.00         Miscellaneous donations
                          $2.00         Sale of a Grex handbook
                          $1.52         Interest on our savings account
                   ------------
                        $339.52

Debits                   $80.41         Pumpkin Rent for February
                         $45.97         Electricity for January
                         $13.71         Phone Bill (see below)
                        $135.00         DSL January 15 through February 15
                          $6.48         Paypal fees (income = $182)
                         $38.00         Renewal of P.O. Box
                   ------------
                        $319.57

Ending Balance        $4,410.65

Our current balance breaks down as follows:

$4,164.11               General Fund
  $163.99               Silly Hat Fund
   $60.00               Spare Parts Fund
   $22.55               Infrastructure Fund

The money is distributed like this:

$1,038.88   Checking account
$3,371.77   Savings account earning 0.65% interest annually

We had one new member (scheidr) in January.  We are currently at 84 
members, 78 of whom are paid through at least February 15th.  (The 
others expired recently and are in a grace period.)

Notes:

- It was a good month for Grex!

- This month's phone charges totalled $90.88.  We had a credit 
leftover from the change from centrex to POTS lines, which we have now 
used up.  So next month's bill will be back to normal.

- I filled out Grex's personal property tax return and turned it in at 
City Hall on Friday the 30th.  For a summary see 

http://www.cyberspace.org/~invent/reportsummary.cgi?repyear=2003&showest=1

I estimate the taxes we'll pay this year at $143, up from $81 last 
year.  (We bought NextGrex in 2003.)  My estimate could be off, 
though, depending on what the Assessor does.

- A $12 check that I deposited in November came back unpaid.  There is
a $5 penalty when that happens.  The person who bounced the check has
replaced it (with cash) and paid the fee.

- Our electricity bill is going to go up a lot, as of January 1st, 
because both OldGrex and NextGrex are up and running.  Scott and I 
measured the current in the Pumpkin at 13.25 Amps, up from 5.5 amps in 
2001 (the last time we measured it).  I haven't changed the amount 
we're paying yet, because Kip is going to check a power meter out of 
the library as soon as one comes back, and hopefully get a more 
accurate measurement of just how much juice we're using.  When he 
gives me that number, I'll write a letter to our landlord explaining 
the situation, and include payment for the difference in January.

Thanks to everyone who contributed in January:

bruin, mbroggy, mbusse, mudlark, robh, scheidr, and one person who 
asked to remain anonymous.

If you or your institution would like to become a member of Grex, it 
only costs $6/month or $60/year.  Send money to:

Cyberspace Communications
P. O. Box 4432
Ann Arbor, MI 48106-4432

If you pay by cash or money order, please include a photocopy of some 
form of ID.  I can't add you to the rolls without ID.  (If you pay 
with a personal check that has your name pre-printed on it, we 
consider that a good enough ID.)  Type !support or see 
http://www.cyberspace.org/member.html for more info.
155 responses total.
naftee
response 1 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 19:15 UTC 2004

Who donated the $1?
robh
response 2 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 20:53 UTC 2004

Re 1: That would be me, I think.

Why?  For the Hek of it.  (And because I didn't have change.)
witzbolt
response 3 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 20:55 UTC 2004

i'm ejaculating on your tits.
aruba
response 4 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 15:23 UTC 2004

Yesterday two longtime Grex members told me they won't be renewing their
memberships as a result of the recent debate.  Not because of the outcome,
but because of the process.
micklpkl
response 5 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 16:10 UTC 2004

I'm almost certain I won't be renewing, either. This isn't a threat, or a
promise --- just a heads-up. It's a pity, and something that I've been
wrestling with since I first heard about valerie's excision of entire
discussion items. I've received a lot of help from a good chunk of grex's
members in the past, and I've tried to do what I could to return the favour
in support of the system. I simply don't see the point, anymore.
naftee
response 6 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 16:18 UTC 2004

It should be the outcome.
slynne
response 7 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 17:33 UTC 2004

Wow. I guess I feel a little sad that people are ready to give up on 
grex over this. I cant say that I was happy about all of this business 
but I wasnt really expecting people to actually bail over it. 

gull
response 8 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 17:47 UTC 2004

I guess we can score two more points for the M-Netters in their attempt
to destroy Grex.
anderyn
response 9 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 18:08 UTC 2004

I don't think it's the actual issue so much as the vitriol and keats of text
that were written with a lot of mean-spiritedness (mostly on one side, in my
opinion) -- I certainly am much less interested in participating if all my
efforts are going to garner are insults and diatribes about "favoring favorite
people". I suspect that others feel the same way, even if all they're doing
is reading such things. 
cmcgee
response 10 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 18:32 UTC 2004

I really hope that people will reconsider leaving Grex.  I value this
community enough that  I'm willing to consider new ways of operating, if it
helps maintain the community.
jp2
response 11 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 18:50 UTC 2004

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tod
response 12 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 18:54 UTC 2004

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slynne
response 13 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 19:01 UTC 2004

I kind of remember when similar things starting going on over on Mnet 
but with different "troublemakers". People got upset and left...mostly 
to come here. What happened after that is that over time, there were 
fewer and fewer interesting people. There have always been folks who 
flame each other online and who try to cause problems. But when all the 
interesting people have left, then what is left? I cant blame anyone 
for not wanting to put up with it but once the more interesting people 
start leaving, things get pretty boring pretty fast. 

FWIW, I am still an "mnetter" although I certainly have no desire to do 
anything to hurt grex. 
ryan
response 14 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 19:09 UTC 2004

This response has been erased.

tod
response 15 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 19:26 UTC 2004

This response has been erased.

ryan
response 16 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 19:44 UTC 2004

This response has been erased.

naftee
response 17 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 20:31 UTC 2004

I'm sure it was your behaviour that caused it.
robh
response 18 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 20:37 UTC 2004

Re 11 - If Fascism had won on Grex, you wouldn't still be here.

Gods, how I wish fascism had won on Grex...
rational
response 19 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 20:45 UTC 2004

Re. 14: Is that why you started running party bots you were specifically told
not to run, and then when you were stopped, you cursed and vitrioled in the
system problems item?
albaugh
response 20 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 21:16 UTC 2004

Re: #4:  What aspects of "the process" are what these people say will be
having them leave?  The proposals (which is the grex defined way to enact
grass roots system changes)?  The discussions?  The name-calling?
I would like to know what was so bad about "the process", whatever that means.
naftee
response 21 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 21:17 UTC 2004

re 19 We could post excerpts!
gull
response 22 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 21:20 UTC 2004

Re resp:12: Sure, anyone is welcome on M-Net.  Making trouble is what M-Net
is all about.  But on Grex people occasionally want to do stuff other than
gaming the system and talking about shitdicks.
rational
response 23 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 21:48 UTC 2004

                                Welcome to the
                         February General Conference


                          fairwitnesses:  jerryr
                                          slynne


First item 1, last 66

Ok: find shitdick
No matches found.


                                Welcome to the
                         January General Conference


                          fairwitnesses:  jerryr
                                          slynne


First item 1, last 127

Ok: find shitdick
#3.259 dc;fu (ric)
      1: TWILA that I allowed shitdicks.com to expire.
#3.265 www.bush2004.com (tonster)
      3: ratbert:/var/www/turnover # whois shitdicks.com
     30:    Domain Name: SHITDICKS.COM
     63: ratbert:/var/www/turnover # host -t ns shitdicks.com
     64: shitdicks.com name server ns1.nameresolve.com.
     65: shitdicks.com name server ns2.nameresolve.com.
     66: shitdicks.com name server ns3.nameresolve.com.
     67: shitdicks.com name server ns4.nameresolve.com.

                                Welcome to the
                         December General Conference


                          fairwitnesses:  jerryr
                                          slynne


First item 1, last 100

Ok: find shitdick
#36.28 Twinkie (twinkie)
      4: Dustin, it's really high time that you ate a bag of shitdicks.
naftee
response 24 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 22:26 UTC 2004

Yeah the focus has changed .
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