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polytarp
Disgusting Mark Unseen   Feb 24 02:42 UTC 2003

Mr Eric Bassey has a "spam" filter, which is apparently barring important
communications from reaching him.  This is, of course, unbelievable.
22 responses total.
other
response 1 of 22: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 02:50 UTC 2003

You are an unbelievable pissant.  And calling ANYTHING you have to say an 
"important communication" is equivalent to calling a shitspeck on the 
belly of a maggot "the largest man-made structure in history."

polytarp
response 2 of 22: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 03:04 UTC 2003

It is uniquely improper for you to automatically ignore official
communications.
styles
response 3 of 22: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 04:47 UTC 2003

i feel a *tantamount* coming on.
tsty
response 4 of 22: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 08:24 UTC 2003

yeh, tantamount to intelligence .....
,
remmers
response 5 of 22: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 12:44 UTC 2003

In case Coop's hordes of readers are wondering what the heck this
is about -- Eric forwards all mail to his other@cyberspace.org
account to uce@cyberspace.org, the place where people are supposed
to send spam that they get.  If one gets a lot of spam at one's
cyberspace.org account, it does insure that you never see it and
the right person does, the downside being that the uce account
also gets non-spam, a potential headache for the uce administrator.

So while Eric's forwarding arrangement has never struck me as an
ideal spam solution, it doesn't prevent "important communications"
from reaching him.  He's on the Grex board, which has its own mailing
list to which messages for the board's attention should be sent
(board@cyberspace.org), and I'm sure that list is set up to
forward to Eric's offsite email address.  That address is no
secret and is in Eric's .plan, so he's definitely reachable via
email.
davel
response 6 of 22: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 12:50 UTC 2003

Hm.  Thanks, John.  I'd jumped to the conclusion that Eric was merely doing
something intelligent, such as filtering out all mail from polytarp.
janc
response 7 of 22: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 13:42 UTC 2003

I suggest the board should entertain a resolution to the effect that
Eric should direct his email to /dev/null instead of uce.  Sending to
uce is just obnoxious.
mynxcat
response 8 of 22: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 15:43 UTC 2003

It's amazing how people take polytarp so seriously. Usually the best way is
to read his post and respond with a "Hahahahhaha - that was so funny,
polytarp".
remmers
response 9 of 22: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 16:57 UTC 2003

If that's the best response I can come up with to something, I don't
respond at all.  If I can separate out some wheat from the chaff,
then I may respond to that.
mynxcat
response 10 of 22: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:03 UTC 2003

Right - then don't respond. By responding and taking him seriously, people
are just feeing his joke that he thinks grex and mnet are.
remmers
response 11 of 22: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:07 UTC 2003

Like I said in #9, I'll respond to any "wheat" I find, as I did in #5.
I will never reject a statement purely on the basis of who made it.
other
response 12 of 22: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:52 UTC 2003

#5 and #6 are both correct.

As for my forwarding to uce.  I decided to do that only because I never 
actually use my grex email for anything any more, and the only mail I 
received there for months was spam.  Since uce@ collects spam for Marcus 
to sift through in order to improve the spam filters, I thought 
forwarding there was a better choice than /dev/null.  

Is this not still the case?
slynne
response 13 of 22: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 22:14 UTC 2003

uh oh - I have noticed that remmers doesnt aways respond to what I say. 
I wonder what that means..... ;)
russ
response 14 of 22: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 22:33 UTC 2003

Sometimes I'm tempted to tweak my twit filter so that it whacks
item bodies as well as responses, but the occasional chuckle
like this usually keeps me from considering it too hard.
mary
response 15 of 22: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 22:44 UTC 2003

The wheat and chaff thing is very kind.  It gives people the
benefit of the doubt.  I tend to ignore posters who have shown
they aren't worth reading.  Not nice, but true.

I suppose I take a chance on missing a rare interesting 
comment.  Life is full of risks. ;-)
remmers
response 16 of 22: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 00:28 UTC 2003

I said I never reject a statement based on who said it.  I
din't say that I always read every statement that everybody makes.
:)  I tend to skip over posters who've established that they aren't
worth reading too, but if it's a short response, I might read it
anyway.  That is, I'll only do the wheat from chaff thing if it
doesn't take much work on my part.

Re #12:  I guess it's Marcus's call whether forwarding to uce is
a good idea or not, since he's the person who sifts through the
stuff.  I'm sure that you get some mail that isn't "unsolicited
commercial email", so I'm curious whether have non-uce mail go to
uce makes his job harder to do.
mdw
response 17 of 22: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 03:44 UTC 2003

I don't have anything automatic to look at "uce@", and given the nature
of material submitted to it, I don't expect I ever will.  So no, small
amounts of ham aren't going to be a big problem.  Just don't expect me
to do anything intelligent with it.
mynxcat
response 18 of 22: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 14:47 UTC 2003

I usually skip the really long posts. 
naftee
response 19 of 22: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 03:07 UTC 2003

All posts on grex are really long.
davel
response 20 of 22: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 20:51 UTC 2003

Including yours?
naftee
response 21 of 22: Mark Unseen   Mar 17 01:26 UTC 2003

I don't post, I respond!
tsty
response 22 of 22: Mark Unseen   Mar 17 10:37 UTC 2003

if there were an automagic filter that mdw could employ, ther4e are
a few key words that could be implemented.
  
mdw, have you considered any filters for incomming email - based
on Subject:   ?
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