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mary
Lease Renewal Yet Again Mark Unseen   Jan 17 21:55 UTC 2003

It's that time of year when we need to send a letter to
our landlord stating we intend to renew our lease for
another 12 months, from June 2003 through May 2004.
This notification should be received before January 31st.

Would anyone object if I took care of this?  I guess, as
we've done in the past, the board should authorized this.
Since our next meeting isn't until mid-February maybe    
board members wouldn't mind voting in this item?

Should we renew for another year as per the terms   
stated in our lease?
41 responses total.
mary
response 1 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 21:58 UTC 2003

Too, after this we'll only be able to renew one more time, through May
2005.  I'm not sure what happens then but we'll probably have to
negotiate a new lease at least.  Something to think about.
tod
response 2 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 22:11 UTC 2003

Do you have a sample of the letter you're planning to send?
mary
response 3 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 22:24 UTC 2003

This is the one I sent last year.  It would be a variation
on the theme.

Dear Mr. Harrington;

Cyberspace Communications is a 501(c)3 non-profit organization
that rents a small room at XXX XXXX.  Our organization is quite 
happy in this space as it suits our unique needs quite well.
It is our intention to continue renting for a period of one
year, from June 1, 2002 though May 31, 2003, as per the
terms stated in our lease's option to renew clause.

Please don't hesitate to contact me with any questions.
My home telephone number is XXX-XXXX.

                     
                        Sincerely,
                        Gladys Tanktop
tod
response 4 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 22:40 UTC 2003

That looks great, Gladys.  You have my blessing. ;)
davel
response 5 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 23:25 UTC 2003

That's nice.  She has mine as well.  But I'd say the board's is what matters.
tod
response 6 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 23:31 UTC 2003

I'm sure the BoD doesn't mind hearing the opinions of its membership.
aruba
response 7 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 00:03 UTC 2003

I vote to go ahead and send the letter, Mary.
gelinas
response 8 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 04:03 UTC 2003

Thank you, Mary, for taking care of this.  (That's a "Yes" vote. ;)
other
response 9 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 06:56 UTC 2003

Si. Da. Hai. Ya. Oui. Okey-dokey.
tsty
response 10 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 12:09 UTC 2003

... and yes.
cross
response 11 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 23:57 UTC 2003

This more or less precludes the possibility of grex moving into a
colocation facility during the next year, doesn't it?
gelinas
response 12 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 00:25 UTC 2003

No, it doesn't.  It may cost us more, if we have to pay the full year on
the current place, but at least we have a home.  So far, I've not heard
that there are any reasonable co-location opportunities in Ann Arbor.
I doubt we'll find one in the next 13 days.
aruba
response 13 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 01:41 UTC 2003

Yeah, we're talking $80.41/month for the next year's rent, or $964.92 for
the whole year.  So if we did decide to move in the middle of the year, we
would take a hit, but it wouldn't break us.
jep
response 14 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 02:04 UTC 2003

Grex has got to exist somewhere.  Unless there's an alternative and a 
plan for moving to it, there's no choice, if the option exists to stay 
where it's at now.
cross
response 15 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 20:35 UTC 2003

I thought mnet had a reasonable colocation deal.  Why not do what they're
doing?  What's unreasonable about it?
jep
response 16 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 22:28 UTC 2003

M-Net runs on PC hardware.  Grex's Sun hardware probably wouldn't work 
on a rack unless it were made of half-inch steel beams.  There have 
been gravitational effects noted by the U-M astronomy department...
carson
response 17 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 23:14 UTC 2003

(there's also the matter of losing the legacy phone number; in exchange
for its co-location deal, M-Net had to give up a phone number that had
been identified with it for many, many years.  I cringe when I think of
the poor soul who was next to get that number.)  ;)

(that's not to say that co-location isn't a way to go, but rather to note
that there likely would be sacrifices to be made that would counterbalance
to varying degrees any benefits.)

scott
response 18 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 23:22 UTC 2003

Re 15:  You write as if colocation was the clearly preferred situation, which
is not something that we've agreed upon.
mdw
response 19 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 01:45 UTC 2003

I've talked with several people, *very* informally, about colocating
stuff in A^2.  None of these deals is likely to happen in the next 13
days.  Unless the NSA suddenly decides they would like to rent us a room
so as to make it easier for them to spy on us, I doubt we'll ever find
any deal that doesn't entail major sacrifice or interesting tradeoffs.

Dan Cross may not realize it, but "space" in A^2 is pricey.  Most of the
really good colocation space in SE Michigan is located in downtown
Detroit where there is a lot more fiber and connectivity (and car
thieves.) Umich moved a lot of its "central" computing infrastructure to
a converted parking garage on the other side of the expressway (outside
of city limits), and Umich's modem pool is now located in Flint.  There
are interesting "exceptions" to this; Cisco has a very nice machine room
located in a store front at Main & Huron - but that's only because even
Ann Arbor store front property looks cheap compared to anything in
silicon valley.  The old Michigan Bell building that presumably still
contains Ann Arbor's phone switches apparently has spare space now - and
a nice sign saying "colocation entrance".  I haven't yet managed to find
any information on how much they want.  Probably that's because I'm not
a fortune 500 company and can't possibly afford it.
gelinas
response 20 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 04:26 UTC 2003

To offer an explicit answer to #15: the most *un*reasonable thing about
M-Net's coloation deal is that it is NOT in Ann Arbor. 
cross
response 21 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 21:23 UTC 2003

Regarding #20; Ahh, okay, that's a good reason.

Regarding #19; You think Ann Arbor is expensive, eh?  You should try
where I live.
jp2
response 22 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 14:55 UTC 2003

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cross
response 23 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 16:40 UTC 2003

Regarding #22; Yes, it can.
malymi
response 24 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 05:24 UTC 2003

if keeping the existing numbers were important call forwarding could
be ordered.
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