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Minutes of 2000/11/20 Grex Board Meeting Mark Unseen   Nov 21 03:34 UTC 2000

20 November 2000 Grex Board of Directors meeting minutes
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        Attendees (time of arrival):  [* indicates board member] 
        *other (6pm), *STeve (7:20pm), *flem (7:20pm), drew, *mdw
(7:45pm), *janc (7:55pm, phoned by other at 7:45pm and reminded that there
was a meeting tonight)
        Both eeyore and remmers notified other board members in advance
that they would not in attendance at this meeting. 

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        01) "Gavel" Squeaking - other 8:05 pm

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        02) Chairman's Report - other
        The gavel was forgotten (aka "mistakes were made") so a suitable
squeaky toy shall substitute. Also, we received a nice sponsorship packet
from Summer Fest. 

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        03) Treasurer's Report - flem
        Credit card damage from September hit in October $4893.34 in bank. 
125 current members, of which 30-odd are in grace period.  Credit card
account with Charge Solutions cancelled in October.  Cardservice contract
until February (6 mo. increments) will cost us $35/mo.  
        The RSA encryption patent expired, which makes doing our own
secure server slightly more feasible for credit card processing, subject
to further cost decrease in VeriSign certificates.  Cardservice is the
back end, and the problems we had were with the front end account which we
have cancelled.  Some discussion of opening a PayPal account in the
interim. 
  
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        04) Publicity Committee - mta/other
        See Chair's report, part two.  Proposed sponsorship suggestion for
2001:  A Space Odyssey.

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        05) Technical Committee - staff
        We have been having problems with the DSL line.  scg contacted
Voyager, who asked that someone go to the Pumpkin to look at it, and
Voyager got Ameritech involved, who will be sending someone out to look
into it.
        Marcus has been looking into some strangeness with ptys which
seems to coincide with issues with our ssh software.
        Another staff meeting has been proposed, in the abstract, anyway. 

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        06) Backup Drive Closure - all
        The system which STeve has determined to best meet our needs has
significantly dropped in price: $790 from over $1050.  Exabyte name brand
tapes at 7GB uncompressed, $7 each.  For specifications, see
http://www.exabyte.com/
        STeve moves:  The treasurer is authorized to spend up to $1000 to
obtain an Exabyte tape drive and 10 tapes, including shipping.  
        The motion carries 5-0-0. 

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        07) Schedule next meeting - all
        Wednesday 13 December. 

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        08) New Business - all
        Since the last board meeting, STeve, mdw and other went to
Cincinnati with Michael Steinberg, Legal Director of the Michigan ACLU, to
represent Cyberspace Communications, Inc. and observe oral arguments in
the Cyberspace vs. Engler lawsuit (see http://www.cyberspace.org/lawsuit/
for more info). The process was nearly as interesting as the current
debacle in Florida, but it will have a decidedly more interesting outcome. 
A ruling is expected in four to six months.

        There was a letter from Grex's landlords requesting a
renegotiation of our rent, which was contrary to the terms of our lease. 
When presented with this fact, the landlords reconsidered their request,
and the terms of our current lease prevail.  We have four more 1-year
options at a maximum of 5% rent increase per year.

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        09) "Gavel" Cessation - other 8:53 pm


Discuss:
42 responses total.
other
response 1 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 03:37 UTC 2000

Look for the detailed treasurer's report as soon as Greg has the opportunity
to post it.
janc
response 2 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 06:31 UTC 2000

Thanks for the speedy minutes.
swa
response 3 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 07:50 UTC 2000

I'm still deeply suspicious about this "gavel cessation" thing... Who was
the last to see it alive?


mdw
response 4 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 09:30 UTC 2000

No one saw it alive at this meeting, that's for sure.  Our esteemed
president was unable to confirm or deny any charges that the gavel was
at some pawn shop, but definitely didn't have it with him.  He had,
however, thoughtfully brought along a bright red squeaky toy in its
place.
jiffer
response 5 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 15:05 UTC 2000

Well, not as resounding but I am sure it had a simular message as the 
gavel.  Any ransom notes?
flem
response 6 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 15:56 UTC 2000

Maybe no one else read this the wrong way like I did first, but we have ~4900
dollars *left*; that's not how much the credit card things hit us for.  :)
albaugh
response 7 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 22:56 UTC 2000

Re: #6 - Yep, on first read "credit card hit" & $48xx went together!
ea
response 8 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 00:24 UTC 2000

I like the idea of 2001 - Space Oddessey.
other
response 9 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 01:50 UTC 2000

The squeaky toy is bright YELLOW.  I dunno what board meeting YOU went 
to...  ;)
other
response 10 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 01:53 UTC 2000

err, the above should be:

The squeaky toy is bright YELLOW. I dunno what board meeting YOU went to... ;)

mdw
response 11 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 02:09 UTC 2000

Ok.  Orangish red.  It definitely had a red cast to it.
janc
response 12 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 06:44 UTC 2000

Looked yellow to me.  Doff the rose-colored glasses.
davel
response 13 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 14:55 UTC 2000

Hmm.  Except for whitespace, #210 & #211 look the same to me, Eric.
other
response 14 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 21:31 UTC 2000

best viewed with backtalk to appreciate the difference...  ;)
steve
response 15 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 10:56 UTC 2000

   Our tape drive came in yesterday!  I verified that we did indeed
get 10 Exabyte tapes, and looked at the drive a little; it certainly
looks like the right thing.

   I would like to install it Sunday afternoon.  I know this isn't a
lot of notice, but then again, we haven't done backups since 2/13/00.
We should be down most of the afternoon.  First is to install the
drive and have it talk with Grex, second is to test it out to see 
that it works and get the magic numbers ready for dump (it wants to
know about 'tape length' which is often a fudge factor) and then third
to actually made backups of the world.

eeyore
response 16 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 15:40 UTC 2000

If I were you, I would post it in the MOTD.
davel
response 17 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 16:34 UTC 2000

You took the words right out of my mouth.  (Is someone with MOTD access
listening?)
spooked
response 18 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 20:01 UTC 2000

I'll add the notice.

don
response 19 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 21:13 UTC 2000

I take it that the backups are over then? Doesn't seem like "most of the
afternoon" has gone by. Maybe the election is more interesting for STeve?
scott
response 20 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 23:24 UTC 2000

Doesn't look like the backups ever happened... STeve has new hardware to
install, and GRex hasn't been down in almost 20 days.
mdw
response 21 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 27 03:13 UTC 2000

STeve had some sort of illness in the family so couldn't make it; so the
"scheduled" downtime is postponed.
steve
response 22 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 00:16 UTC 2000

   I didn't put it into the motd because I wasn't yet sure I could do
it.  I don't post things like that 'till I really know I'm able to do
it, because many people seem to alter their behavior on Grex because of
those notices.   I'm figuring out which day this week I can leave work
early enough to make this happen.
jep
response 23 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 23:33 UTC 2000

Can't you just install the tape drive while Grex is running?  It's poor 
customer service to make people wait for maybe hours to read their 
e-mail and use party, just so it's convenient for *you* to come in over 
the weekend and install a new tape drive so *you* can do backups.  
Hmmph!
steve
response 24 of 42: Mark Unseen   Nov 29 00:46 UTC 2000

   Heh.  Yeah, we could install the tape drive when the system's up.
Maybe, we should install more SIMM memory while we're at it, too. ;-)
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