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Grex Board of Directors Meeting, 9/25/2000, 7pm Eastern Mark Unseen   Sep 16 02:28 UTC 2000

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GREX BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING

DATE AND TIME: Monday, 25 September 2000, 7:00pm EDT

PLACE: Upstairs at Zingerman's Next Door
422 Detroit Street, Ann Arbor, Michigan USA

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AGENDA:
01)  <10 sec. - Gavel Banging - other
02)   03 min. - Chairman's Report - other
03)   10 min. - Treasurer's Report - flem
04)   05 min. - Publicity Committee - mta/other
05)   15 min. - Technical Committee - staff
06)   15 min. - Telephone Line Update - staff
07)   15 min. - Schedule next meeting - all
08)   10 min. - New Business - all
09)  >.1 sec. - Gavel Cessation - other

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Please use this item to enter proposed changes or additions to this agenda.
57 responses total.
willard
response 1 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 16 04:59 UTC 2000

|  
| 01)  <10 sec. - Gavel Banging - other 
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I'd like to suggest that at least 15 seconds be allotted for gavel
banging.  
other
response 2 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 17 02:04 UTC 2000

You are more than welcome to make that suggestion.
twinkie
response 3 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 17 09:43 UTC 2000

I believe he just did.

ric
response 4 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 17 13:43 UTC 2000

Actually, he merely expressed the desire to make that suggestion.
willard
response 5 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 17 13:52 UTC 2000

#2-4: Thank you.  I suggest that at least 15 seconds be allotted 
      for gavel banging.

I'd like to suggest that at least 30 minutes be allotted for banging
other's mom.
other
response 6 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 03:26 UTC 2000

If you knew my mom, you wouldn't have said that, i'll wager...
russ
response 7 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 04:52 UTC 2000

Agenda item:  default twit filter for the Agora conference.
willard
response 8 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 12:40 UTC 2000

/c/w/i/willard/ufilt.pl
keesan
response 9 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 13:14 UTC 2000

What is a default twit filter?  Is it something that a beginner can easily
learn to use?  One of our beginners was disgusted when she recently looked
at agora and I agree with her comments about the mental age of some of the
recent posters.  She has no idea what a .cfonce file is (nor do I know where
to find mine without help).  Were you considering setting up something in the
menu that lets people fill in certain user names easily?
Maybe with a brief explanation as to its purpose?
willard
response 10 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 14:31 UTC 2000

When I first arrived here, I found the behavior of many Grexers to be
completely and totally repulsive.  I was disgusted, quite frankly.
But rather than get all fussy about it, I started posting my own
items, and to my delight, the environment quickly changed, and became
significantly more tolerable.

If by "default twit filter" he means that some users are added to the
filtered list by default based on their activity in the conference,
and new users will be unable to read their posts without disabling the
filter, I'm opposed to the idea.
birdy
response 11 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 15:35 UTC 2000

I find that idea wildly ridiculous since everyone prefers different 
kinds of posts.  They can install their own twit filter.
carson
response 12 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 16:25 UTC 2000

resp:9  ("set cfonce")

        (you're welcome.)
willard
response 13 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 17:01 UTC 2000

I think it would be a better idea to fishbowl Agora, and make it a
place where the 'cool kids' hang out.
keesan
response 14 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 17:05 UTC 2000

Jdeigert suggests that every time people log on to Agora, there be a brief
message telling them how to use the twit filter in order to avoid the
droppings of certain people who prefer a different environment.  Set it up
so people only have to fill in the names of the users who they want to avoid
the 'contributions' of, without having to know anything about .cfonce files
or programming.  Maybe as part of the change program.  Maybe with an
explanation of why there is a need for this approach.  And that way people
who don't like the environment they find when they enter grex can filter it
out and have the playground entirely to themselves and their friends.  
remmers
response 15 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 17:21 UTC 2000

I'd like for Russ to elaborate on his concept, but I'm sure I'd
be opposed to anything that filters particular users by default
(much as I disagree with willards's before/after characterization
of Agora).

I would favor an easier-to-use and more flexible filtering facility
than is now available.  The sheer volume of material in the current
Agora -- far more than any previous one -- makes that desirable.
I'd oppose editorializing on the "need" for it, though -- different
users have different "needs".  Make its availability known, and
leave it up to the individual whether they want to use it or not.

Regarding filtering, it should be pointed out:

(a) Someone would have to write the software.

(b) In any case, it wouldn't work with backtalk.
willard
response 16 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 19:39 UTC 2000

#15:  The nice thing about this country (and Grex, so I thought) is
      that we're all allowed to have different opinions.
gull
response 17 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 20:03 UTC 2000

I'd recommend against running a script that's in another user's home
directory without checking it first for trojans, and making your own copy to
avoid the possibility of them adding one later.
remmers
response 18 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 20:42 UTC 2000

Re #16: I interpret that to mean that you agree with me.  Is this
interpretation correct?

Re #17: Good advice.
willard
response 19 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 20:51 UTC 2000

#17:  Well duh.
mary
response 20 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 23:54 UTC 2000

If at this meeting the board will be voting to purchase a backup tape
drive then maybe it would be good form to get it on the agenda and enter
something here or in the tape drive item that states what we'll be buying
and how much we'll be spending.  If I remember correctly this purchase
will take about a third of Grex's available funds.  So the more info
that's out in front of the users before the vote, the better.

willard
response 21 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 01:50 UTC 2000

I would argue very strongly against the purchase of a tape backup
drive.  
krj
response 22 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 06:48 UTC 2000

Before Grex spends all its money on the tape drive  :) I would like 
to be sure to get the check for the magnet project pledges.  
(Greg and I agreed to postpone this a while ago to see if more pledges
would trickle in, but by now I'm going to assume that everything 
is in which is coming in.)
flem
response 23 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 16:05 UTC 2000

Oh, right, I knew I was supposed to be doing something else... Sorry, Ken,
I'll get right on that.  
  <flem searches frantically for his brain, which appears to be missing.>
gull
response 24 of 57: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 22:31 UTC 2000

I found it!  It oozed out while you were watching TV, again.
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