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twinkie
Oi! Do my bidding! Mark Unseen   Jun 21 16:31 UTC 2000

I want a Steve conference and a Twinkie conference.

I'll run the Twinkie Conference the same way I do on M-Net.

So, make the conferences already.

44 responses total.
remmers
response 1 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 21 19:25 UTC 2000

Well, not quite yet.  Procedure is to allow a few days (five
days to a week, ordinarily) to allow user input on the proposals,
and at the end of that period create the conference(s) if the
proposer still wants them.
robh
response 2 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 21 21:56 UTC 2000

So what's a Steve conference?
i
response 3 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 21 22:37 UTC 2000

I think there is a consensus (from the recent decorum cf. situation)
that someone can't request multiple conferences & get them.  I don't
think we've thought at all about the details of our it-seemed-like-a-
good-idea-at-the-time "policy" on this.
carson
response 4 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 22 03:09 UTC 2000

(I thought, wrt the discussion of the decorum conference, that that was
not so much a "can't get them" but rather a "can be talked into fewer.")
remmers
response 5 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 22 15:52 UTC 2000

I think the situation with the decorum conference was that
in the public discussion the person appeared to be proposing
a single conference, but in subsequent private discussions
with cfadm it came out that he actually wanted four inter-
related conferences.  At that point, Walter reopened the
public discussion (properly so), and then the whole issue
was rendered moot by the proposer appearing to lose
interest and disappearing from Grex, so that no new
conferences actually got created.

I don't think this is a comparable situation, since Kevin is
asking for two conferences up front.  Users are certainly
allowed to fw more than one conference, so I don't see why
two simultaneous proposals by the same person can't be
considered.
aruba
response 6 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 01:12 UTC 2000

What will these conferences be like?
twinkie
response 7 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 23:41 UTC 2000

Assuming asking for two conferences at once is a "bad" thing, I would withdraw
my request for a Steve conference.

For the record, I'm not interested in being FairWitness of the Steve
conference (assuming it's created)

It's difficult to explain precisely what the conferences would be like.
I suppose in a very broad sense, the Steve conference would be for waxing over
profound thoughts revolving around shitdicks. The Twinkie conference would
be for accusing people of being shitdicks, and a continual discussion of
reasons I will scribble responses, as well as an exchange of insults. Most
likely, there will also be significant space dedicated to women I would like
to have sex with.

ea
response 8 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 24 01:32 UTC 2000

There's already a conference that sounds a lot like what twinkie is 
proposing in response 7.  TO get to it, telnet://m-net.arbornet.org
jmsaul
response 9 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 24 03:03 UTC 2000

Hey now, ratboy...
janc
response 10 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 02:45 UTC 2000

I've got no problem with simultaneously requesting multiple conferences.

If he doesn't want to fairwitness "steve" then some volunteer to
fairwitness it would have to be found before it could be created.
twinkie
response 11 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 06:55 UTC 2000

re: 8 -- Strange...when I type that, I can't connect. But, when I type
http://hippiefaggot.com, it opens up my mail program, and has
"ea@cyberspace.org" filled out in the "To:" field.

md
response 12 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 00:05 UTC 2000

I volunteer to fairwitness the steve cf.
twinkie
response 13 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 04:41 UTC 2000

No you don't, bitch.

md
response 14 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 14:44 UTC 2000

Oh, but I do.  So can the steve cf be created now?
remmers
response 15 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 15:06 UTC 2000

Technically we should probably wait a couple of days, since
the proposal was made on the 21st, Grex was off the net for
three days, and we're supposed to allow a minimum of five
days for proposal discussion.  After that, I see no reason
not to go ahead.

If Michael's the FW, I'll even join the durn thing.
md
response 16 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 17:02 UTC 2000

Yay!  You will always be welcome to join my steve conference.
twinkie
response 17 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 17:50 UTC 2000

Stay the fuck out of the Twinkie Conference.

janc
response 18 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 17:55 UTC 2000

Closed conferences are not available.

I can't see anyone objecting to the creation of either conference.  I
wouldn't mind if cfadm saw fit to expedite things.
md
response 19 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 18:05 UTC 2000

Re #17: I guess I'm not gonna stay out of the twinkie
conference.  Such a shame -- I'm sure you would've
turned it into a regular Camelot, but now...  Well,
you know.

Re #18: Yes, by all means, please create both the 
twinkie cf and the steve cf as soon as possible.
remmers
response 20 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 18:18 UTC 2000

Re #18: Even if somebody objected, the decision would still be
in the hands of the proposer and/or volunteer fw.
i
response 21 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 03:12 UTC 2000

Okay, here's the situation i'm seeing now: 
 - twinkie proposed the twinkie cf on 6/21 and wants to be its fw.
 - twinkie proposed the steve cf on 6/21, but doesN'T want to be its fw.
 - md wants to be fw of the steve cf.

If this lasts a few days, i'll create both cf's with those lone fw's.
Anyone else want to fw?  (I'd say you'd need either ok from the 1st
fw or popular acclaim to qualify.) 

(My biggest interest is avoiding having to do the work of setting up
conferences that quickly die on the launch pad.  Hence my disinterest 
in letting someone request & get multiple conferences at once, rushing 
to set up one-fw conferences that seem to be attracting very few "I 
want to join that" comments, etc.  Disclaimer:  Other cfadm's, board, 
sane persons, etc. may not share these views.)  
eeyore
response 22 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 03:57 UTC 2000

Out of blatant curiousity, am I the only one who's massively offended by what
the contents of the Twinkie cf are?  Don't get me wrong...I realize that all
of that stuff goes on in various cf's.  But I guess I just don't get the point
of handing somebody a cf just to stroke their ego, rip on people, and quite
frankly, the bit about "...there will also be significant space dedicated to
women I would like to have sex with."  really grates on me.  Yes, I know the
Sex cf exists, and I even used to participate in it.  That I have no problems
with.  But this sounds like a teens  grand chance to jack off in public while
groping several women without getting in trouble, and at the same badmouthing
whomever he feels like it for whatever reason (be it sane or no) he feels like
it, plus editing what others might say so that his Law & Will not be spoken
against.

I'm really disgusted.
janc
response 23 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 04:31 UTC 2000

I'm assuming that that kind of stuff will only be discussed where other
people can be disgusted by it.  Since nobody disgusted by the conference
will join it, it will rapidly become boring for everyone else and die on
the vine.  Seems fine to me.
eeyore
response 24 of 44: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 04:59 UTC 2000

I didn't say that I had any intention of joining it....
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