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russ
Energy-savings no-brainers - or are they? Mark Unseen   Jun 11 16:21 UTC 2000

Sometimes you see things that make you go "Why the heck aren't they
doing something about this?  They'd make out like bandits!"
 
Case in point:
 
40-unit apartment building.  Laundry room is on the 2nd floor on the
north; the building goes east-west.  The laundry room has its own
water heater in a closet off the room proper.
 
There is a flue and some kind of unused pipe coming into the closet
area.  Running a gas heater would appear to be a piece of cake.
Despite this, the water heater runs on ELECTRICITY at probably four
times the cost.  So do the dryers.
 
Across the narrow dimension of the building is a blank wall.  It
would appear to be simple to mount flat-plate solar collectors
to this wall and heat (or pre-heat) the laundry-room water, for
free.  It would even have qualified - maybe still qualifies -
for tax credits.  But the sunlight that falls there just heats
up the bricks.
 
IIRC, sunlight in Michigan in the summer averages around 500 calories
per cm^2 per day.  A two-yard-by-five-yard collector (about 9 m^2)
running at 70% capture efficiency and 20% losses would be able to heat
about 160 gallons of water from 50 F to 122 F, every day.  Compared to
electricity, this would save up to about $2.30 a day, several hundred
dollars a year.  $4000 invested in solar collectors would appear to
have a near-guaranteed payoff much higher than the mortgage interest
rate; financially, a no-brainer.
 
And they're still using electricity.  Aside from being cheapskates on
the capital cost, can anyone tell me *why*?
3 responses total.
jmsaul
response 1 of 3: Mark Unseen   Jun 11 17:59 UTC 2000

I will, if you'll tell me why this is in the coop.cf.
remmers
response 2 of 3: Mark Unseen   Jun 11 19:11 UTC 2000

(I suspect it's in Coop by accident.  Maybe Agora was the intended
location.)
russ
response 3 of 3: Mark Unseen   Jun 12 03:28 UTC 2000

Apologies to all for the mis-post; this *was* supposed to go
to Agora.  I'm reposting there.  FW, I strongly encourage you
to nuke this item.
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