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janc
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Thanks to the ACLU folks
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Aug 1 18:37 UTC 1999 |
I'm thinking it would be nice to make a little thank you gift to the
attorneys who represented us in the hearing. (I believe most ACLU
attorneys are volunteers.) I'd thought of donating some money to buy
some Grex T-shirts for the four attorney's involved. We'd have to
figure out sizes and addresses to mail to.
I'm going to be off line for a week, but I thought I'd start a ball
rolling on this idea.
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mdw
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response 1 of 38:
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Aug 1 20:21 UTC 1999 |
Sounds good to me.
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aruba
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response 2 of 38:
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Aug 2 14:33 UTC 1999 |
Count me in for $15.
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richard
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response 3 of 38:
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Aug 2 22:26 UTC 1999 |
tshirts arent enough...
give'em each a free 90-day membership--maybe they'll stick around
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dang
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response 4 of 38:
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Aug 3 21:41 UTC 1999 |
Except that we have a policy of not giving memberships for anything but
money.
I agree that T-shirits are not much, but we can't really compensate them
for their time and effort, and a T-shirt will get the idea across that
we appreciate their effort. Who knows, maybe they'll even like them. :)
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richard
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response 5 of 38:
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Aug 3 22:01 UTC 1999 |
the no free memberships policy always seemed a little odd, since there
are several grex founders who apparently have free *lifetime* mnet
patronships somehow brokered years ago when mnet changed ownership.
I guess free memberships are okay in some cases and not othes?
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steve
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response 6 of 38:
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Aug 3 22:16 UTC 1999 |
Different circumstances, Richard. Most of the lifetime memberships
came from M-Net's original owner, which was a very different thing.
You really need to know the history before talking of such things.
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aruba
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response 7 of 38:
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Aug 4 01:23 UTC 1999 |
Grex has only ever granted one free membership, to Ken Ascher for housing
Grex all those years.
Anyone else want to volunteer any money for T-Shirts?
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steve
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response 8 of 38:
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Aug 4 04:14 UTC 1999 |
Me.
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dang
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response 9 of 38:
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Aug 4 05:34 UTC 1999 |
Besides, I would argue that M-net shouldn't be giving free memberships
either.
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krj
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response 10 of 38:
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Aug 4 05:45 UTC 1999 |
I will pledge $10 for the T-shirts.
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jshafer
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response 11 of 38:
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Aug 4 06:15 UTC 1999 |
<AOL> Me Too </AOL>
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gypsi
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response 12 of 38:
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Aug 4 07:12 UTC 1999 |
I'll also send in a check toward the fund.
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jep
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response 13 of 38:
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Aug 4 17:34 UTC 1999 |
I'm pleased money is being raised from people who are donating it for
that purpose. Grex was used by the ACLU. I'm glad I don't have to help
pay for them using us.
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toking
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response 14 of 38:
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Aug 4 18:05 UTC 1999 |
a wee bit bitter aren't we
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aruba
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response 15 of 38:
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Aug 4 18:56 UTC 1999 |
Re #11: What does "<AOL>" mean? Should I count you in for $10, John?
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scg
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response 16 of 38:
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Aug 4 21:05 UTC 1999 |
Grex was used, to an extent, but the ACLU. They can't file this suit without
plaintiffs. Grex used the ACLU. We couldn't file this suit without lawyers.
Now, what's the impact on the two organizations if a law like this goes into
effect? Grex's activities become, for all practical purposes, illegal. We
have to shut down or risk prosecution. The ACLU, because they care about
civil liberties, will be upset. They may have needed us to pursue their
cause, but their cause was to allow organizations like ours to continue to
exist.
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richard
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response 17 of 38:
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Aug 4 21:17 UTC 1999 |
rather than give these guys t-shirts which they probably wont wear since
they dont use grex regularly anyway-- why doesnt grex make a donation to
the ACLU. Raise $50 bucks say, and then have Grex match it, for a total
$100 donation. Which I assume would be tax-deductible.
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steve
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response 18 of 38:
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Aug 4 21:24 UTC 1999 |
Thats not a bad idea, but thats more of a gift to the organization as
a whole. I thought this thank you was more towards the laywers themselves,
such that a Grex T-shirt makes more sense.
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steve
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response 19 of 38:
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Aug 4 21:25 UTC 1999 |
(I really don't see how you think the ACLU 'used' us. Having been
at the hearing, I think I can say that it was a partnership.)
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richard
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response 20 of 38:
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Aug 4 21:30 UTC 1999 |
these lawyers are committed to the ACLU so they would probably
appreciate monetary contributions to their defense fund as opposed
to t-shirts. But ask what they prefer.
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aruba
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response 21 of 38:
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Aug 4 23:11 UTC 1999 |
Nah, you don't ask someone which gift they want before you give it to them,
unless you're afraid they really won't like one of the options.
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steve
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response 22 of 38:
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Aug 5 00:13 UTC 1999 |
I think they'd appreciate--and wear--them.
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gypsi
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response 23 of 38:
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Aug 5 06:22 UTC 1999 |
John - so what you're saying is it's only okay to donate money for something
when it's for Grex? I appreciate what the lawyers did, and even if they don't
wear the t-shirts, they'll appreciate the gesture, Richard.
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jshafer
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response 24 of 38:
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Aug 5 06:48 UTC 1999 |
re resp:15, yes, put me down for $10.
The <AOL> thing has to do with AOL's reputation for attracting
the clue-challenged. Especially when AOL first got Usenet
access, it was quite common for them to quote a whole Usenet
post, then add "me too" (or some other one-line response) at
the bottom. Hey, I use AOL, I can make fun of 'em... :P
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