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ERROR: terminated by signal 11
executing "read_text" on line 31 of abalone/unreg.bt in call to procedure "form_text" on line 186 of abalone/read.bt in call to procedure "show_text" on line 415 of abalone/read.bt
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(<PRE>This item is for discussion of the Great Grex Auction.\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>So are there any particular plans for what happens with the money we raise?\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>Is there some unwritten law about bidding on your own product? \(per item #7\)\nactually could unload it, maybe i could scam w.w.w. access out of the deal?\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>oops, a sentance dissapeared!  now where the heck did it go???\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>Re 1: Hopefully we can use the auction proceeds to get a faster Internet\nconnection.  It depends on how much we raise and how much a net connection\nwill cost.\n\nRe 2-3: Could you try that again?  I&#39;m not sure what you&#39;re asking.  Yup,\nyou&#39;re welcome to bid on your own donation to the auction, but the money you\nspend on buying what you donated would go to Grex.\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>I&#39;d like to suggest that when an item has gone a week without any bids,\ninstead of it being immediately sold, maybe the auctioneers should enter a\nresponse to let people know this is their last chance to bid.  You could\njust say &quot;Going once...&quot; and maybe &quot;Going twice...&quot; the next day, etc. \nThat gives people a chance to change their mind about bidding; especially \nif they skimmed an item because there were others they were interested \nin, and it doesn&#39;t sink in until later that they want to bid.\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>That makes mucho good sense.  Thanks!\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>I was planning on making an announcement six days after the final\nbid, to the effect of, &quot;Last chance!&quot;\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>Hey, is there a minimum bid? I just had to ask..  What if I bid 5 cents\nfor the mouse pad and 25 cents for the SVGA card \(nobodys bidded yet on\nthese\).  Well, on one hand anyone could beat those bids and it might get\nstarted, but, what if I got the card for 25 cents??!?  Maybe you should let\npeople bid anything but if it comes up to be, lets say less than $5.00, maybe\nyou should charge a min. of $5..  So if someone out bids me by $.50, they get\nit but at least they&#39;d donate $5..  Or something to that effect?? no? Maybe\nthat pad isn&#39;t worth $5, but the time and effort and what not... ect..  You\nget my point,  if you could expect at least $5 from everything it&#39;d be worth\ndoing this no matter what you auctioned...   See ya..\n</PRE>\n)
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(May 17 15:05)
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(<PRE>JWT&#39;s point is a valid one, especially when you must consider that, if the\nsuccessful bidder lives out of town, the item may have to be mailed to that\nperson, and 25 cents won&#39;t even mail a letter anymore.\n</PRE>\n)
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(May 17 19:48)
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(<PRE>Some of the people posting items have stated minimum bids.  It might be a good\nidea for those people who&#39;s items haven&#39;t been bid on yet.\n</PRE>\n)
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(May 18 02:46)
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(<PRE>\(By the way, current bids total just over $300\).\n</PRE>\n)
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(May 18 20:04)
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(<PRE>If an item must be shipped, who is responsible for paying the shipping\nand handling?? the donator, Grex, or the buyer?\n</PRE>\n)
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(May 18 21:34)
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(<PRE> It would be logical for the buyer to bear the shipping costs, unless the\nseller was feeling magnamamous. ;\)\n</PRE>\n)
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