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Grex > Agora41 > #237: Tales from the 'hood - affirmative action. | |
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bdh3
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Tales from the 'hood - affirmative action.
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Jun 5 03:45 UTC 2002 |
Maybe its just me. But there is a situation here
in my 'hood that I just simply find hilarious. A contractor
was hired to build some section eight housing and somebody
noticed that all the workers were white or hispanic. Well
the contracter was pressured into hiring some blacks which
he did all well and fine (probably had a nice enough profit
margin so it didn't make him no never mind). But the local
alderman got wind of this and wants the blacks to be fired.
Seems the group that did the pressuring was (a certain
nationally known figure's I understand) not the alderman's
and so wants this group's blacks to be fired and the
alderman's blacks to be hired instead. One group of blacks
losing their jobs over affirmative action in the favor of
another group of blacks.
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jaklumen
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response 1 of 13:
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Jun 5 11:54 UTC 2002 |
Politicking as usual.
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happyboy
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response 2 of 13:
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Jun 5 16:32 UTC 2002 |
re0: 8D
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other
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response 3 of 13:
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Jun 6 06:02 UTC 2002 |
Put the alderman up against a wall and let the guys he wants fired have
at him with whipped cream and cooked spaghetti.
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scg
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response 4 of 13:
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Jun 6 07:27 UTC 2002 |
The perversion of affirmative action sounds like at most a side issue here.
It sounds far more like an issue of political patronage, taken to an extreme.
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slynne
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response 5 of 13:
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Jun 6 15:04 UTC 2002 |
Sounds like what I would consider a stereotype of Chicago politics.
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orinoco
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response 6 of 13:
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Jun 6 16:40 UTC 2002 |
When I lived in Chicago, many people seemed to think that affirmative action
was used as an excuse for patronage pretty often. I never payed enough
attention to have an opinion on it, but I can't say this surprises me much.
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gull
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response 7 of 13:
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Jun 17 16:22 UTC 2002 |
Here's an interesting question:
Chicago government is highly corrupt, but stuff gets done.
Detroit government is highly corrupt, but nothing gets done.
What's the difference? If we can't clean up Detroit's government, can we at
least get it to be Chicago-style corrupt instead so that stuff actually gets
fixed?
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jaklumen
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response 8 of 13:
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Jun 18 12:21 UTC 2002 |
how's da mob operate in Detroit?
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russ
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response 9 of 13:
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Jun 19 01:27 UTC 2002 |
I think we could clean up Detroit with a serious effort to find the
corrupt officials and functionaries, send some to jail and fire the
rest. That would at least offer some hope.
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gull
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response 10 of 13:
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Jun 19 12:42 UTC 2002 |
Like in any urban area, someone equally corrupt would just spring up to fill
the void.
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orinoco
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response 11 of 13:
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Jun 19 18:55 UTC 2002 |
I imagine being a corrupt official in Detroit is less profitable than being
one in Chicago. Probably less gratifying too, since there's less power
involved. Could it be that Detroit's corrupt officials just aren't as good
at it?
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other
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response 12 of 13:
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Jun 20 17:02 UTC 2002 |
I suspect there's little mob involvement in the corruption in Detroit.
The mob folks have been at it long enough to make it work, while the
Detroit folks are the nouveau mal. Well, for the last thirty five years
or so, anyway.
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bhelliom
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response 13 of 13:
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Jun 20 20:38 UTC 2002 |
I suppose it those that are not corrupt may on the whole become
demoralized faster in Detroit than in Chicago? With less resources,
lower pay and slower rates of development, I could see why that may be
a factor.
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