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scott
In the future, computers will have cleavage. Mark Unseen   Oct 8 18:01 UTC 2000

So the next series connected with the Roddenberry/Star Trek name is
"Andromeda".  First episode is/was this weekend.

Former Hercules start Kevis Sorbo as the captain.

I watched on a really static-y TV channel, so it was all a it hard to see.
Could be really good, or suck.  Or be somewhere in between.  

Anybody else see this?
37 responses total.
wyrefall
response 1 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 18:39 UTC 2000

no
ric
response 2 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 18:55 UTC 2000

Kevin Sorbo?  Hahhahahaha
jp2
response 3 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 19:29 UTC 2000

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mdw
response 4 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 23:11 UTC 2000

I hope to watch it later tonight, fast-forwarding through the
commercials.
mikep
response 5 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 00:22 UTC 2000

It looked to me like it was produced in the early 80's.  It had that "Buck
Rogers" sort of look to it, and I was very surprised to learn that it was a
new series.  The aliens looked about as fake as a high school play, and showed
no significant creativity.  Acting was flat.  I think it's likely to be
cancelled before the first season is up.
krj
response 6 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 01:07 UTC 2000

I just happened to catch the premiere because Twila mentioned it in 
party.  The opening sequence was so directly lifted from Star Trek
that it could have been an SNL parody.  I found it kind of trashy 
space opera fun.  What the heck, I didn't turn it off, and that's more
than I could ever say for B5, which I found impenetrable.
slynne
response 7 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 01:29 UTC 2000

So what channel is it on and when?
krj
response 8 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 01:31 UTC 2000

I caught the 8 pm ET broadcast on WGN, which is Cable 10 in Ann Arbor.
slynne
response 9 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 01:33 UTC 2000

OH. I dont have cable so I guess I am SOL. That's ok. It is probably better
if I watch less tv. I am a tv addict
mdw
response 10 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 01:38 UTC 2000

It was on 20 at 4pm, or at least, I hope it was.
jp2
response 11 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 03:14 UTC 2000

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krj
response 12 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 03:26 UTC 2000

This is sort of "What notes did we find in Gene Roddenberry's trunk?"
It is not a Star Trek (tm) series.  It's a syndicated show, so 
broadcast times will vary from place to place.
 
A google search on "roddenberry sorbo andromeda" will turn stuff up.
krj
response 13 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 03:40 UTC 2000

Really, the parallels to the Trek universe are pretty funny.
In place of the Federation, we have the System Commonwealth.
In place of the talking computer, we have a projected human image, the whole
    ship is supposed to be sentient.
In place of a Scottish engineer, we have an Irish engineer.
Kevin Sorbo is cut off from his civilization, much as the Voyager crew
is.
 
The show is from Tribune Entertainment, which I think is a guarantee
of it being a low-budget production.  
 
The blonde pilot of the salvage ship is cute.

There's one funny in-joke where the engineer of the salvage ship asks
Kevin Sorbo: "What do you think you are, a Greek god?"   :)

(Thanks for mentioning this, Twila, it was worth wasting an hour to see 
it.  If you think of it as "Hercules in Space" you won't be far wrong.)
aruba
response 14 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 20:26 UTC 2000

I thought the pilot showed a lot of promise.  I plan on following it, at
least for a while.  The visuals didn't look low-budget to me, Ken.

I also am hopeful that they will try to limit the level of technology and
accompanying level of techno-babble, which has become the bane of Star
Trek's existence.  I liked the fact that the salvage ship latched onto the
Andromeda with cables, not a tractor beam, and that they at least payed lip
service to real physical phenomenon like black holes and time dilation. 
Time will tell if they keep that up or if they fall into the same ruts as
Star Trek has.
anderyn
response 15 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 21:28 UTC 2000

I'm going to give it a few more episodes, myself. It looked a little dippy
in the costume/makeup department (except for the bug pilot), but I'll wait
to see how the aliens act. Was also disappointed with the 20th century Earth
slang of the engineer. It could be good, it could be bad, I'll await
developments. Of course, looks like the CURSE of the STar Trek  franchises
has hit Earth:Final Conflict... The third season pilot looked really really
bad, and I was unhappy with the plot twists. They've backed away from the
stuff that made it interesting and quirky in return for the status quo of
"resistance fighters" against "evil aliens". Crap.
scott
response 16 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 01:51 UTC 2000

"Andromeda" at least sounded like they had a good basic skeleton for the
story... schisms in the Commonwealth leading to a breakdown of order, lost
technology, shifting political relationships between races.

I hope they don't dumb it down too much for the sake of TV.  I'm a bit mixed
on that score already.
drew
response 17 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 18:47 UTC 2000

Haven't seen it yet, but I looked it up.

I'll note for now that the name 'Dylan Hunt' was also used in a couple of
other Roddenbury movies, _Genesis II_ and _Planet Earth_, which he also had
intended to make a TV series of.
anderyn
response 18 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 19:32 UTC 2000

Oh my God. I forgot Dylan Hunt totally, though I watched Genesis II and all
the other failed pilots of Roddenberry shows quite avidly when they were new.
ashke
response 19 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 20:23 UTC 2000

Hey.  I would like to stick up for B5.  I liked it, when it was about the
station, and how people got along.  I liked when Dilen (please forgive
spellings) changed her head so she was more human and had to deal with the
repercussions of it.  I liked when they got a store on the station, and the
little Sherridan bear.  But when I stopped watching the show is when they got
the ship.  The stupid f-ing ship.  Ruined the series, and it turned into a
good show about how people interacted into "lets run around the galexy and
shoot things".

I LOVED DS9.  But like B5, after Roddenberry died, they did the same old same
old.  Lets get the Defiant.  Lets run around the gallexy.  Who cares about
the station?  Who cares about relationships or using our brains.  Look, big
ship...GUNS...LASERS...OOoooo   Photon Canons...
My favorite episode was where Jake and Cisco were thrown into some kind of
engery thingy and couldn't exist in the same place at the same time anymore.
And so Jake grew up without his dad, and only saw him a couple of times, for
a little bit out of the day.  ANd he ends up being a sucessfull writer and
decides it's time for his dad now, he had his time to do what he needed to,
and ends up killing himself so his dad could be in the current plan of
existance.  It happens in the space of a few minutes, and they come out at
the same place as the beginning, but it was the most wonderfully writeen
piece.  I liked those!  What's wrong with heart, and dealing with people, and
working out PROBLEMS.  That's WHY he wanted DS9.  To break the mold of the
"shooting off into the wild yonder helping/fighting/messing up other
cultures".

I'm so sad to see people doing it again with another series of his.  And Kevin
Sorbo is an okay actor.  But come on.  It's also the stuff they are given to
work with (see Hurculese episode where they are in our time, he doesn't
understand, but they are the gods and characters playing the actors that are
in the show.  too cute)
flem
response 20 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 20:44 UTC 2000

I've had various friends corner me into watching B5 episodes from time to
time.  I don't think I've ever watched 30 consecutive seconds of an episode
without bursting into derisive laughter, though, and they usually don't corner
me twice.  :)
krj
response 21 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 20:54 UTC 2000

Many people whose taste I respect admired B5 for me, but the two 
time I tried watching an episode, I clicked it off after ten minutes.
Just wasn't my thing, I guess.  ANDROMEDA's got plenty of stuff 
one can criticize it for -- I'm not expecting it to evolve into 
quality TV SF -- but it was paced well enough to be amusing.
 
Perhaps it appeals to my inner 12-year-old.
scott
response 22 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 21:47 UTC 2000

B5 I've only seen a few episodes of, and I've got mixed opinions about it.

In my universe, DS9 got amuch better when the war started... real conflict,
not dumb conflict like in Voyager.
anderyn
response 23 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 23:57 UTC 2000

I loved Babylon 5. It's on the tv right now, in fact. I wasn't terribly fond
of DS9 after the war started (the plots just got waaay too convoluted, and
people were being out of character), but Voyager is Right Out. Ick.
senna
response 24 of 37: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 00:04 UTC 2000

Real, perpetual conflict is apparently hard to do, because a lot of shows
avoid doing it.  Actually, it's mostly just hard to keep interesting.  I
thought it was a great idea for DS9, although war can easily get old.  They
had 7 (mostly) peaceful years of TNG under their belts, though, so it was
plausible.
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