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French Hegemonist Imperialism in North America? Mark Unseen   Dec 11 06:24 UTC 2000

As part of whats-her-name's recent research in an attempt to 'map'
Internet users with geography (for 'marketing research' purposes, yes
children 'they' are watching) she came upon an interesting factoid. 
There is to this day french colonies in North America.  And here I
thought we kicked the last of the frogs out during the mexican
revolution (after buying most of it last century).  But no, the frogs
maintain two colonies, both of whom actively engage in 'trade wars' and
generally piss folk off to this day.  But you never hear about it.  Just
one of those odd facts.

Anyone care to hazard a guess?
14 responses total.
scg
response 1 of 14: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 07:32 UTC 2000

St Pierre and Miqueon (sp?) right?  I've been under the vague impression that
they are full fledged parts of France (just off in distant locations) rather
than colonies, but I could be wrong.
bdh3
response 2 of 14: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 07:51 UTC 2000

Yes (what search engine did you use out of curiosity?) and they aren't
even mere colonies?  The frogs *actually* claim part of NA as french?
Its worse then I thought.  Where is NAFTA on this?
scg
response 3 of 14: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 07:55 UTC 2000

This was pointed out in my eighth grad French class, and I remembered it for
some reason.  I didn't use a search engine.
scg
response 4 of 14: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 07:56 UTC 2000

And, of course, since I'm just remembering something from eighth grade French
class, please don't assume anything I've said about hte governmental structure
of those islands is accurate, without checking with some other source.
bdh3
response 5 of 14: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 09:00 UTC 2000

Ah, so it may yet still simply be a colony instead of sovereign
territory?  Yetch, and yucky-poo either way.  What happened to the 
'monroe doctrine'?  Obviously before we do anything else over in the
balkans we gotta get rid of this cancer on North American.  Kick the
bloddy frogs out, or at least trade it for the Malvenas or something.
happyboy
response 6 of 14: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 12:22 UTC 2000

even worse, there are french *enclaves* out there,

and we DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.
scott
response 7 of 14: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 12:29 UTC 2000

Scary!  Just to be safe, we need to tattoo a barcode (I like the UPC, as
there's a hidden "666" in each one) on everybody's forehead.  ;)
gull
response 8 of 14: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 15:31 UTC 2000

Does her research have anything to do with that Internet company that was
making a lot of people nervous by tracerouting their domains?
danr
response 9 of 14: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 17:31 UTC 2000

The Dutch still own a piece of the "New World," too.  Take a peek at
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/nt.html.
aaron
response 10 of 14: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 20:28 UTC 2000

St. Pierre and Miquelon. They had a rip-roaring good time during prohibition,
and caused Canada some headaches in trying to protect its fisheries, but
they don't really have much significance.

I believe that their official status is as a French territory, somewhat
analogous to what the U.S. might call a "protectorate."
happyboy
response 11 of 14: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 00:16 UTC 2000

whew, at least they don't live in ypsi.
bdh3
response 12 of 14: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 07:27 UTC 2000

re#8:No
re#9:That is not 'north america'. (I've been there, have you?)
danr
response 13 of 14: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 16:43 UTC 2000

I didn't say it was part of North America.  I haven't been there, but I've
listened to shortwave radio stations from there.
mcnally
response 14 of 14: Mark Unseen   Dec 14 07:22 UTC 2000

  I gave serious thought to visiting St. Pierre et Miquelon when I was
  travelling around Newfoundland for a while a few years ago but decided
  against it because of the expense of the flight to St. Pierre..  I'm
  sure my time was better spent on the parts of Newfoundland I visited,
  but from a trivia standpoint it would have been an interesting place
  to have visited..
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