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Arms Trading. Mark Unseen   Dec 7 10:05 UTC 2000

A cohort member where I work has an interesting sideline - moonlighting
as it were.  He along with a dude in europe buys and sells military
aircraft of the former USSR.  For example, the mere sum of 42K$US can
buy you a Mig-21.  It will cost about 8K$US for shipping to Georgia, USA
(Not the other Georgia).  Then, if you actually want to fly it there are
a few minor costs on top.  The firm in Georgia has former USSR
instructor pilot to train and sign off on the papers.

In the next weekend or so I hope to take a hop in the trainer model he
has parked in one of the 'burbs.  42K$US for what was once a top of the
line supersonic jet fighter...

For 10K$US you can fly the most current state-of-the-art russian
fighter and can own one of your very own for not too many more times
that as well.    For some reason russian subs don't seem to be too
popular right about now, but its a buyers market.  Consider purchasing
a russian armored vehicle, say a BMP for about a fifth the cost of the
silly civilian version of the Hum-Vee  (remember, you pay shipping). 
Plus it is actually armored- good up to beyond an RPG-7 not to mention
pesky small arms fire, *and* it will run on most any fuel (you need a
ATF license for the arms though, unless you DE-WAD it).  Sure and it has
more tires and non-standard size, but there are after market rims to use
standard american truck tires.  Not sure on the price of ballistic
missles although, heh - make an offer I figure.  You have to be clever
on the financing of the bigger ticket items but your run of the mill
tactical stuff is  pure cash in a suitcase type deal.  Those interested
should please to send me mail.
9 responses total.
sno
response 1 of 9: Mark Unseen   Dec 7 13:01 UTC 2000

I'm surprised that the open market doesn't push those prices higher, 
even if they are likely stripped to the bone.  As I understand it, 
the Israelis rip out a lot of stuff from our planes when they get them.
Must make a pretty good platform to build from.

senna
response 2 of 9: Mark Unseen   Dec 7 18:40 UTC 2000

only 42?  I'll tak one.  Imagine how short my commute would be, especially
when the thing falls apart and crashes.
mdw
response 3 of 9: Mark Unseen   Dec 7 20:07 UTC 2000

Well, gosh, that supersonic soviet jet fighter gets terrible gas
mileage, and spare parts and such are probably even less available here
in the states than in Russia.  If that russian armored vehicle qualifies
as a car it would to meet all sorts of pollution, gas mileage, and
safety checks.  As truck, it's probably not *quite* as hard, but there's
still a pretty stiff import duty -- something like 35%?  If it has any
sort of serious armour on it, it's probably going to be very expensive
to ship (might be as much as the cost of the vehicle, maybe more), and
it will get terrible gas mileage and eat tires for breakfast.
mcnally
response 4 of 9: Mark Unseen   Dec 7 21:46 UTC 2000

  I think it'd be worth it just to do fly-overs of the weekend militia
  types up north to confirm some of their most paranoid suspicions..
gull
response 5 of 9: Mark Unseen   Dec 7 22:55 UTC 2000

Vehicles older than a certain age are exempt from meeting US crash and
pollution standards when they're imported singly by an individual, I think.
bru
response 6 of 9: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 15:54 UTC 2000

Get me the price on a T-76, wouldya?
scg
response 7 of 9: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 18:58 UTC 2000

(Larry Ellison's goal in life is rumored to be to buzz Microsoft in a Mig)
flem
response 8 of 9: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 22:31 UTC 2000

/rotfl
drew
response 9 of 9: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 01:09 UTC 2000

Re #0:
    Do they have any Proton boosters?
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