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Announcers: The best and the worst
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Nov 28 18:29 UTC 2000 |
Who are the best and worst announcers that you have ever heard? TV and
or Radio. They can be living, active, retired, fired, dead. The only
rule is that you must have heard them live during your lifetime. Thus,
although I have heard Ed Sullivan, it was a tape, and therefore does not
count.
Also, what makes an announcer good or bad? Why do you listen to some,
and hit the mute button as soon as others come on?
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ea
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response 1 of 46:
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Nov 28 18:39 UTC 2000 |
Here's my lists. I'm going to stick with sports announcers, because
that's what I listen to the most, although you can cover any type of
announcer. When I list some people as a pair, it's because they work
together on the air.
Worst:
- Steve Levy, ESPN (TV)
- Josh Llewin, Fox Sports Detroit (TV)
- Dick Vitale, ESPN (TV)
- Stoney and Wojo, WDFN Detroit (Radio)
- The 2 announcers who did the Minnesota-UMich hockey game last weekend,
Midwest Sports Channel (TV)
Best:
- Don Cole and Harry Neale, CBC (TV)
- Ken Kal, WJR (Radio)
- Al Randall & Jim Hunt, WTKA (Radio)
- Keith Jackson & Bob Griese, ABC Sports (TV)
I like announcers to be knowledgable about the sport they're covering,
have enthusiasm, but not make a mockery of the game. I also like
announcers that at least try to learn the names of the players.
I have never watched a game that Steve Levy did where he didn't totally
butcher at least 1 or 2 names. Josh Llewin is often assigned to do play
by play for a hockey game, and he doesn't know anything about hockey.
Same with the MSC announcers. Vitale is just a disgrace to the game,
and Stoney and Wojo just irritate me.
Cole and Neale are probably 2 of the most informed hockey announcers you
will ever find. Both coached in the NHL, and know a LOT about how the
game is played, and the rules. Ken Kal has great enthusiasm, and is
also very knowladgeable. Randall and Hunt make a great team, they've
been working with each other for a long time, and really compliment one
another. Jackson and Griese both played football, both in college and
professionally. They also get along well with each other, and can
remain neutral in emotional situations.
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ashke
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response 2 of 46:
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Nov 28 18:52 UTC 2000 |
I don't remember his name, but it's Dick something, and he covers ABC
figureskating. He's sounds like a VERY big pervert when you watch skating.
And he doesn't mean it, I'm sure, but I can't watch it with him...I crack up
too hard.
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bruin
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response 3 of 46:
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Nov 28 19:19 UTC 2000 |
Re #2 Dick Buttons?
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birdy
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response 4 of 46:
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Nov 28 19:27 UTC 2000 |
My favorite, without even thinking about it, is Ernie Harwell (covers the
Detroit Tigers). I've loved his voice since I was a kid, and listening to
him brings back happy memories of summers with my dad, uncle, and cousins.
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ea
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response 5 of 46:
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Nov 28 21:03 UTC 2000 |
Re #1, #4 - oops, how could I forget to put Harwell on my list of the
best? *kicks self*
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edina
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response 6 of 46:
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Nov 28 21:07 UTC 2000 |
It's Dick Button. Gary frequently comments on how gay he sounds. The best
figure skating commentator is by far Scott Hamilton and Tracy Wilson on CBS.
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jep
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response 7 of 46:
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Nov 28 21:25 UTC 2000 |
Ernie Harwell is my favorite announcer as well.
For most of my life, the "voice of summer" was Detroit Tiger TV
announcer George Kell. He'd start the game by saying "Hi everybody" and
continue to announce the start of the new season and the baseball game.
I like Dick Vitale as a basketball announcer. He has unmatched
enthusiasm, and very detailed expert knowledge of the game of college
basketball. He has passion that no one else has. He studies all the
teams, not just the few at the top.
My leaast favorite college basketball announcer is Bill Raftery. He
seems to be stuffed full of himself. He'll pick some irrelevant
comment, then emphasize it like it's an exciting discovery. "The player
is DRIBBLING THE BASKETBALL!!!" I think that Bill Raftery has his HEAD
UP HIS BUTT!!!
WTKA-1050 sports director Doug Karsch is pretty interesting for his
daily radio show, weekdays 3-7 pm, if you like U-M sports.
I like PBS political commentator Cokie Roberts a lot.
I liked Jim Lehrer as the mediator in the presidential debates this
year, but can't imagine watching him on TV for long. I don't watch TV
news, so don't know any of the anchor people.
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albaugh
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response 8 of 46:
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Nov 28 21:34 UTC 2000 |
Ken Kal is a worthy successor to the beloved Bruce Martin. "He shoots, he
*scores*!" in a high pitched "scores" is classic and mimicked.
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krj
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response 9 of 46:
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Nov 28 23:32 UTC 2000 |
My first two choices are head and shoulders above the other ones:
1) Felix Grant, best remembered for his evening jazz program on WMAL-AM
in Washington DC from maybe the 1950s into the 1970s. He had a
smooth silky voice, his knowledge of the field was encyclopedic.
I do have one of his shows on tape, a treasure. He was a big musical
influence on me as I was growing up.
2) Augusta LaPaix, the original host of CBC Stereo's "alternative music"
show "Brave New Waves" back around 1984. She was the essence of
cool urban sophistication. The music was great, but she had little
to do with it -- I read once that she actually liked very little
of what got played on that show, but she didn't let it show until
the end of her tenure when she programmed a few shows herself.
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3) Garrison Keillor, who probably everyone is familiar with through the
"Prairie Home Companion" series.
4) David Wisdom, the final host of CBC's old weekend overnight show
"Nightlines." Wisdom is a crazed music enthusiast and loved digging
stuff out of the trunk. I remember when he was choking back tears on
the final "Nightlines" broadcast.
5) Charlie Gillett, a London radio presenter who was one of the first to
bring "world music" to a wide European audience. His show
"Saturday Night" can be heard at http://www.wen.com/radio
6) For sports: the 1980s Tigers team of Ernie Harwell and Paul Carey,
and Frank Beckmann.
One of my regrets is that Harwell and Beckmann never did the
Tigers broadcasts together.
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danr
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response 10 of 46:
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Nov 29 01:21 UTC 2000 |
Oh, man. We disagree on Frank Beckman. I really don't like the guy.
As far as U-M sports go, I always liked Tom Hemingway.
For a non-sports announcer, I always liked the guy who announced the David
Letterman show before Alan Kalter.
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senna
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response 11 of 46:
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Nov 29 01:47 UTC 2000 |
Beckman is okay. Not a standout, but he definitely gets the job done. I'm
sorry that I never got a chance to hear Bob Ufer do a live game.
Keith Jackson and Ron Franklin are probably my top choices for college
football. Franklin is more on top of his game than Jackson is at the moment,
but both are classics to call classic games. The color commentator currently
working west coast games with Jackson, I forget his name, uses the term "he
can flat-out fly" at least three times in EVERY BLOODY FOOTBALL GAME HE CALLS.
I hate him. Griese is okay, but I prefer Gary Danielson.
I like the play-by-play of Greg Gumbel and especially Al Michaels in the pros.
I'll take Dierdorf and Millen for commentary, both of whom know the game and
love it as well. Summerall and Madden have gotten too old for me.
I agree with Eric about Bob Cole and Harry Neale. Considering what they
cover, the CBC has fantastic announcers across the board, and these are at
the top of the list. Back in the day, the CBC used to rebroadcast BBC F1
racing coverage, which gave me a look at Murray Walker, who calls sporting
events with more vigor and enthusiasm than anyone else. He's funny, too. :)
I have a sentimental attachment to John Motsen's soccer play-by-play, and I
dislike most American soccer broadcasters.
Brian Williams deserves, and will get, a major network weekday anchor position
someday.
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mary
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response 12 of 46:
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Nov 29 11:44 UTC 2000 |
Bill Bonds. I stopped watching local news programming while
he was doing his train-wreck impersonation. I never went back.
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scott
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response 13 of 46:
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Nov 29 12:35 UTC 2000 |
So Mary, does that mean that Bonds is your most or least favorite? ;)
Among favorite voices (not just sports announcers, which would limit the field
drastically in my case) are: Ernie Harwell, The Electrifying Mojo (DJ on WJLB
years ago), Garrison Keiller (it's really the writing more than the voice).
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remmers
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response 14 of 46:
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Nov 29 16:25 UTC 2000 |
I miss the announcers of yesteryear:
Durward Kirby ("The Garry Moore Show")
Gene Rayburn ("The Tonight Show with Steve Allen")
Jack Lescoulie ("The Jackie Gleason Show")
George Fenimen ("You Bet Your Life")
Don Wilson ("The Jack Benny Show")
Hugh Downs ("The Tonight Show with Jack Paar")
Why do those names stick in my mind after all these years? Darned if
I know. Maybe when I was a kid growing up I subconsciously wanted to
be an announcer myself.
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senna
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response 15 of 46:
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Nov 29 18:27 UTC 2000 |
I was flipping around this morning on the way to school and happened onto
WTKA's run of the mill morning show. While clearing the phone lines, they
ran across a long distance call from "Richard from Sarasota." He started
talking, and everybody on the show and listening on their radios cracked up.
It was the almight Dick Vitale, driving to East Lansing with his producer,
and he was *already* hyped for the game that night. At 9:30 am. He was
crazy, and apparently rather bored. :) He put on a good show. Despite some
of his more annoying habits, I appreciate people like Vitale who communicate
genuine enthusiasm for what they are covering. Too much broadcasting has
become objective and emotionless. I appreciate hearing announcers get lost
in the moment when the moment deserves it.
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danr
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response 16 of 46:
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Nov 29 23:05 UTC 2000 |
Just as an aside: I was attending the University of Detroit when Vitale coached
there. He was a decent coach, and actually managed to get Detroit into the top
20 at least one of those years and into the NCAA tournament two of the three or
four years he coached there. Several of the players whent to the pros,
including Terry Tyler, John Long, and Earl Cureton.
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albaugh
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response 17 of 46:
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Nov 29 23:10 UTC 2000 |
Then Vitale went "psycho" and ended up coaching the Pistons.
2nd the admiration for Tom Hemingway, who did UM football (maybe basketball
too) while WUOM covered UM sports.
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goose
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response 18 of 46:
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Dec 1 18:44 UTC 2000 |
Faves:
Jackie Stewart -- auto racing
Chris Economacki -- auto racing
Jim McKay -- auto racing
Dislikes:
Tom Sneva -- auto racing
Sam Posey -- auto racing
I guess I watch auto racing more than anything.
Oh yeah, I also love Saturday Night Live's announcer whose name is completely
escaping me
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polygon
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response 19 of 46:
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Dec 1 19:23 UTC 2000 |
Don Pardo.
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senna
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response 20 of 46:
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Dec 2 05:33 UTC 2000 |
I didn't know you were such an auto racing fan. We should talk sometime.
Posey is a bit of a turnoff, but he does decent work for speedvision and I
can tolerate him. Bob Varsha really grates on me after a while, and I really
don't know why. I've been a Parker Johnstone fan since his blazing qualifying
lap for the 1995 Marlboro 500 that put him in position to win until he dropped
out. Upon leaving, he picked up and did commentary on ABC's broadcast for
a substantial number of laps (which I didn't hear until I got home from the
race and watched the tape). He was great, unprepared out of the box.
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scg
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response 21 of 46:
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Dec 3 04:02 UTC 2000 |
Hugh Downs was a Tonight Show announcer?
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gelinas
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response 22 of 46:
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Dec 3 04:05 UTC 2000 |
He was also a singer. Did a duet with Doris Day, I think it was.
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remmers
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response 23 of 46:
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Dec 4 14:33 UTC 2000 |
Re #21: Yep, Downs was Tonight Show announcer during Jack Paar's
tenure as host.
I didn't know that he was also a singer.
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ea
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Dec 4 15:16 UTC 2000 |
Not really a huge important observation, but I think that a person's
announcing style is influenced a lot by other announcers that that
person has listened to. As an example, lately I've been doing the PA
announcing for Syracuse hockey games. I've noticed that without even
thinking about it, a lot of the wording that I use and small mannerisms
that I have (like announcing when a team is at full strength, or last
minute of play in the period) are copied almost directly from Glen
Williams, who has been the PA announcer at Yost arena for a very long
time. I'm not trying to copy him, I guess it's just that I've listened
to him for a long time, and not listened to many other announcers.
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