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jp2
The New Microsoft Tax Mark Unseen   Nov 3 15:22 UTC 2000

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carson
response 1 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 15:43 UTC 2000

(it sounds as if the issues raised are eerily similar to issues raised
with regards to the lapdance initiative at Northern Michigan University.
within the next couple of years, everyone will be required to have an
IBM ThinkPad, even if they already own a computer or have a major which
uses Macs _in the classroom_.  there are still three Macintosh labs on
campus run by individual departments, plus three out of the four campus
media outlets are using Apple computers.)

jp2
response 2 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 16:45 UTC 2000

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senna
response 3 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 19:03 UTC 2000

Ever considered journalism as a minor?  

jp2
response 4 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 19:39 UTC 2000

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janc
response 5 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 20:43 UTC 2000

Microsoft's marketing strategy always seem to be oriented around selling
software to anyone other than the user.  You sell it to hardware companies
who stick all their customers with it.  You sell it to universities to stick
all their students with.  I gues Microsoft is just too big to want to deal
with little people.
jp2
response 6 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 22:43 UTC 2000

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carson
response 7 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 00:05 UTC 2000

resp:2  (you can start by reading the 2nd article at northwind.nmu.edu)

senna
response 8 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 09:04 UTC 2000

What *is* your major?  What do you want to do for a career?
keesan
response 9 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 21:58 UTC 2000

My computer does not have Microsoft Office on it and is hardly useless.  I
don't use Windows, or Mac, or UNIX.  I am doing just fine with DOS, and WP
for DOS, and Arachne for DOS, and a DOS_based database program, and a
DOS_based office suite (which I use only for the browser), and some DOS-based
programs to deal with images and sounds.  Novell DOS is free, and most of the
rest is shareware.  I can view WORD files with a little DOS-based program.
I can convert to WORD.  I can do this without buying anything Microsoft, and
still be compatible with Microsoft.
This makes as much sense as requiring people to buy hamburgers for lunch.
gull
response 10 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 23:08 UTC 2000

Re #1: Northern Michigan University already has this.  The cost of a
Thinkpad is included in your tuition.  They sold this as being a benefit to
students who were on scholarships, since if it was part of the tuition the
scholarship would cover it.
carson
response 11 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 02:39 UTC 2000

(bzzt.)

(it's not part of the tuition, but rather added on as a "laptop fee".
MET contracts don't cover the cost.)
jerryr
response 12 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 13:32 UTC 2000

re: #9  is the os you are using MS DOS?
jp2
response 13 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 17:28 UTC 2000

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gull
response 14 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 18:17 UTC 2000

Re #11: Wow.  It makes even *less* sense, then.  No wonder a lot of their
students are annoyed with it.
jp2
response 15 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 18:22 UTC 2000

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keesan
response 16 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 21:09 UTC 2000

Re #9, yes it is MS DOS, which I am hoping to replace with Novell DOS once
we figure out task switching.  IBM's PC DOS is also said to be good.  What
other DOS's are there?  What is OPEN DOS?
jp2
response 17 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 00:07 UTC 2000

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mdw
response 18 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 00:29 UTC 2000

There is also "freedos" (www.freedos.org).
senna
response 19 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 06:05 UTC 2000

"Everything" is a nice set of options.  Good luck narrowing it down. :)  Did
you contribute anything to the register's report?

jp2
response 20 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 17:46 UTC 2000

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jerryr
response 21 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 7 13:02 UTC 2000

re: #16  i was just trying to reconcile your statement that you don't have
to buy anything microsoft.
gull
response 22 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 7 19:04 UTC 2000

Re #21:  That's easy.  They didn't buy MS-DOS, they pirated it.
ashke
response 23 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 7 20:29 UTC 2000

re#22 they didn't pirate MS-DOS.  They bought it fair and square.  They just
sold it before they owned it in the first place.  But they DID buy it for
$50K.

they priated Windows.
scott
response 24 of 27: Mark Unseen   Nov 7 22:10 UTC 2000

If you assume that pretty much every PC Keesan and Jim have fixed came with
a licensed copy of MS-DOS from the manufacturer, then they are not pirating
it.
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