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jep
question about drunk drivers and Michigan Mark Unseen   Oct 26 15:07 UTC 2000

Someone I know, who's in trouble for drunk driving, said that
Michigan is one of several states which do not share drunk
driving information with other states.  He's saying he's going
to move to Ohio, where he will be able to get a new driver's
license, and he will be legally allowed to drive in Ohio.  He
won't be able to drive legally in Michigan.  Is that true?

How would police in Michigan connect him to his driving record,
if he has new license plates and a new driver's license?

He has a paper sheet license plate in his window, which he claims
he was given by the police, and which he says is good for 1 year.  
He's had it for a few months now, and it's too faded to read any 
more.  This can't be legitimate, can it?
13 responses total.
senna
response 1 of 13: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 15:36 UTC 2000

onestly, this person sounds like the sort of fellow who takes no
responsibility for his own actions, maintains ethical principles based solely
on what works for him, and is highly likely to get someone killed.

Or maybe it's a politician.
brighn
response 2 of 13: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 15:55 UTC 2000

It does seem a little excessive to move to another state rather than to sober
up.
albaugh
response 3 of 13: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 17:06 UTC 2000

Those paper license "plates" that stick to the back window are usually only
good for 30 days.  And they're issued by (in MI) the Secretary of State, or
by a car dealership on behalf of the SoS.  If this person moved to Ohio and
got an Ohio license, then got stopped in Michigan, I wouldn't be surprised
if trouble came of it...
scg
response 4 of 13: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 17:09 UTC 2000

Michigan started taking away license plates and replacing them with paper
license plates to "shame" repeat drunk drivers.  It didn't strike me as
something that would do anything useful.
brighn
response 5 of 13: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 17:19 UTC 2000

I drink to forget.
What are you trying to forget?
the shame.
What shame?
Of not having a real license plate.
birdy
response 6 of 13: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 22:14 UTC 2000

I agree with #1.
mdw
response 7 of 13: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 23:21 UTC 2000

Any chance you can get him to move to Florida instead of Ohio?  I expect
to be in Ohio occasionally, so if your friend plans to drive while
drunk, I'd just as soon it were as far away as possible.
danr
response 8 of 13: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 12:17 UTC 2000

A couple of years ago, I was driving down to visit a friend in North Carolina.
Just north of the West Virginia border, I was in an accident with a drunk
driver. Fortunately, I was not injured nor was my car disabled.

As it turns out, the other driver was actually a resident of West Virginia,
although he had an Ohio driver's license. I got to talking with the state
police officer about this, and he told me that it's relatively easy to get an
Ohio driver's license even though you might have DUI violations in other
states.
jep
response 9 of 13: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 14:44 UTC 2000

re #4: Did they really?  I thought they were going to replace license 
plates with orange plastic plates or something.  If this person's paper 
plate is legitimate, I'm surprised.  I thought he printed one up on his 
computer.
johnnie
response 10 of 13: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 14:50 UTC 2000

Remember this the next time you speak poorly of the great state of Ohio. 
Ohioans are a kind and moral people--it's the drunks and ne'er-do-wells 
from surrounding states that drag down its reputation.

Ohio is a bit lax in its DMV standards.  They require one to carry auto 
liability insurance, for example, but they don't actually require proof 
when you register your car--they just ask if you have it, and take your 
word for it.  When I got my Ohio license some years back (I'm not a 
drunk--I lived there), I was able to walk out of the office with 
completed license in hand, none of this "wait six weeks" stuff here in 
Michigan.  Perhaps this is indicative of the dearth of background 
checking.
brighn
response 11 of 13: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 14:53 UTC 2000

Last time I was in Ohio, yes, they were VERY nice. TOO nice. It was scary.
;}
aaron
response 12 of 13: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 23:30 UTC 2000

Michigan does share its data with most states (which is a change from past
years) - it has been a bit slow to reciprocate. You may be able to get a
foreign state to issue a license, but you may nonetheless find that you
soon receive a notice of revocation from that state.
n8nxf
response 13 of 13: Mark Unseen   Oct 28 00:05 UTC 2000

Ohio is also a bit tougher when it comes to enforcing the laws.  They like
to get you out there driving so that they can nab you ;-)
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