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Just for fun: IQ Test Mark Unseen   Oct 24 21:27 UTC 2000

Someone passed along this URL for a so-called "IQ Test":

http://www.iqtest.com/iq-test.html

The test is composed of 38 multiple choice questions, which are supposed to
be answered in 13 minutes (the faster you complete the test, the better
your score).

It took me 15 minutes to complete the test, whereupon I was given 
immediate feedback via a web page.  In addition, an e-mail was sent with
some summary info and spam:

From web@west1.ibsway.com Tue Oct 17 17:31:00 2000
From: "Edg Duveyoung" <edg@iqtest.com>
Subject: Your IQ Test Results

Thank you for recently taking the Self Discovery Workshop's IQ Test.
Because of the Internet's ability to mishandle transmissions, we are
reconfirming via email that your IQ Test score was: 138

If you wish to purchase your Complete Personal Intelligence Profile,
you can do so by going to this address:

http://www.iqtest.com/view/iqtest/options/<some_numbers>

You may return to this address anytime to view your score.  You can
use your Netscape or Microsoft Internet Explorer browser software to
bookmark this page's location.

Our test usually gets within 5 points of the professional tests--a
remarkable feat for a 13 minute test.

Our test gives you a quick and fast measurement of your abilities, and
that can indicate directions for you to take.

   Average: 85 - 115
   Above average: 115 - 125
   Gifted Borderline Genius: 125 - 135
   Highly gifted and appearing to be a Genius to most others: 135 - 145
   Genius: 145 - 165
   High genius: 166 - 180
   Highest genius: 181 - 200
   Beyond being measurable genius: Over 200

Also, we hope that you noticed that we offer a great program for
consciousness exploration on the Web site.  See our FREE samples of it
below.  <spam follows>


Feel free to try it out for yourself, and report your thoughts here.

78 responses total.
brighn
response 1 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 24 21:48 UTC 2000

Nine minutes, 139 IQ (significant;y lower than the 164 I tested as a child...
I'm getting dumber ;} ). Then again, it doesn't give you answers, and there
was at least one question (maybe two or three) where my response was "That
depends on how you mean that question...". All of the qeustions are
true/false.
mcnally
response 2 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 03:02 UTC 2000

  Because I'm way too vain, I couldn't resist taking the test, which confirmed
  what I already knew: that I am at least as smart, if not smarter than the
  average bear..

  However smart I may or may not be, it occurs to me that it's in the 
  interests of the people writing the test to have their scores come in
  on the high side, since nobody's going to pay them $10 for a full
  explanation of a test which doesn't confirm their own high opinion of
  their self.

 --

  Finally, I'm probably over-reacting here based on what I've seen happen
  to a friend of mine, but I'd advise people to be *really* wary of any
  organization offering you help with "consciousness exploration"..  
  A friend of mine got involved in one such group (Lifespring) while he was
  in college and in my opinion they did a very thorough mind-fuck job on him.
  I don't know what kind of promises the people running this website are
  making for "consciousness exploration" or "personal growth" and I didn't
  bother to take the time to find out, but please be *VERY* skeptical of any
  group that promises to radically transform you into a more intelligent,
  dynamic, energetic, or whatever kind of person.  Some of these groups which
  promise to help you "unlock your hidden potential" can be very dangerous.
senna
response 3 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 03:52 UTC 2000

It took me 11 minutes, scored me at 139.  I don't think it was very accurate,
but I've never taken one before.  I was somewhat distracted by the game and
by talking to some people, too.  Ah well.  

I wouldnt' be surprised if they inflated scores a decent amount to inflate
certain egos.  It makes money.
senna
response 4 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 03:59 UTC 2000

Now I'm having fun playing with my age and test taking time.  I've raised my
IQ to 190 by reducing myself to 7 and my test time to six minutes :)
cmcgee
response 5 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 13:01 UTC 2000

Re 2:  Scientology uses that same terminology.  Took thousands from a
schizophrenic friend of mine.  They can do some incredible brainwashing on
you if you keep giving them money.  
md
response 6 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 13:39 UTC 2000

I got bored and just answered "true" to everything.  Finished in less 
than a minute and scored 113.  "The great fraternity of C+, backbone of 
the nation."  (Nabokov)
bru
response 7 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 14:26 UTC 2000

I scored 125

then I went back and changed the time to halh what it actuall took me, and
it changed to 127.
brighn
response 8 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 15:17 UTC 2000

You have an IQ of 140. Now can we please have $10?

I kinda noticed that too. If you read the FAQs, my objection is answered:
There are no right or wrong answers, but rather, your score is based on how
other people they've tested in the past scored on "real" IQ tests, and how
they answered these questions. If you answer the same way as the smart people,
you get labelled a smart person. Bizarre.
polygon
response 9 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 16:17 UTC 2000

My clinical psychologist spouse, who is professionally familiar with IQ
tests, says that this one is pretty good for a short test.
ashke
response 10 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 17:18 UTC 2000

I have taken a real test, and I found that my score was within the 5 of that
test.  I have been tested a total of 3 times in my life, and so I'm pretty
sure what I'm at.  
jazz
response 11 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 17:19 UTC 2000

        Stanford-Binet isn't even *designed* to score above-average children,
and breaks down around 150-160.  I've never seen a scale that regularly goes
over 150.
brighn
response 12 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 17:41 UTC 2000

Plus, with school-age children, because the tests are scaled for age, there
are various biological and environmental factors that can skew the number
(especially at the upper ends).

I always wrote my 164 off as a quirk... I'm smart, but not THAT smart. ;} (As
an adult, I generally test around 140.)But my FATHER... he may as well have
bronzed that test score and put it on the wall, for all I've heard about it...
his supergenius son...
jazz
response 13 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 18:06 UTC 2000

        I'd thought that the validity of childhood tests was much greater than
that of adult tests;  there are too many educational and experiential factors
in adults that'd require the creation of a totally new sort of system to be
taught to test-takers.
rcurl
response 14 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 18:17 UTC 2000

I  think I had an IQ test when I was a kid, but don't remember a "score".
Overall, I think it is largely nonsensical. What good is that number?
No one uses it for anything (school admissions are based on GPAs and
other exams and interviews). It is hardly worth talking about, much less
taking. 
jep
response 15 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 18:38 UTC 2000

This might have been the first IQ test (by that name) that I've taken.  
I had a 136 IQ, 139 if I said I took the test in 4 minutes, and 148 if I 
said I was 13 years old and took it in 4 minutes.  Things like this are 
why kids think they're smarter than adults.  (Heh.)

I always thought I was a genius.  So much for this life!
ashke
response 16 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 18:41 UTC 2000

well, when I was gonig through my school years and was learning disabled, and
was told I wasn't trying and that I was dumb and that I needed to be in
remdeial classes, it was a big boost to my confidence to understand what was
wrong.  And to have that number, which is yes, just a number, it helped too.
janc
response 17 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 18:50 UTC 2000

I guess I flunked.  First I didn't want to enter my name and address on some
dubious web site, so I left those blank. Then I got a phone call during the
test.  Then I hit the part where it said "please either the time it took you"
and I was surprised because I'd assumed it would time me (easy enough to do
either in javascript or in a CGI), so I had never bothered to look at a clock.
I accepted the default 13 minutes though I think it was less than that if you
don't include the phone call.  It said 138.

If I ever took an IQ test, then nobody ever bothered to tell me the results.
Can't say I'm very interested.
brighn
response 18 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 20:02 UTC 2000

#14> spoken like someone who got a 120 on the IQ test. ;}
scott
response 19 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 20:06 UTC 2000

11 minutes, score 135.  I have a vague memory of doing a couple odd online
iq tests a year ago, but I can't put my finger on a score now.  Either 124
(likely) or 134.  Of course, this time I was looking more carefully for
obvious answers, rather than tricky answers since the last time I had a
technically correct answer, but it wasn't the easy answer that was expected.
rcurl
response 20 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 20:07 UTC 2000

I prefer my ScD from MIT to any IQ test results. 

brighn
response 21 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 20:46 UTC 2000

Hm. MIT. That's a chump school. Pushover classes. Not like, say, Ferris State
or one of the real big league schools.
*ducks*
jazz
response 22 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 21:08 UTC 2000

        There's at least one local private school that bases admissions on IQ
testing, though it would most likely ignore that if you waved enough money
in front of their faces.
rcurl
response 23 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 00:52 UTC 2000

What makes an "IQ" test as opposed to any old test? 
bru
response 24 of 78: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 12:30 UTC 2000

I had a similar result in an IQ test in high school.  129 as I recall.  But
I also had a freind who did a "IQ" test using the number of letters in my
name, and it came out to 120.

Which one should I believe?
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