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Item 118: The Mac OS X Item

Entered by cross on Thu Oct 14 10:34:35 2010:

33 new of 37 responses total.


#5 of 37 by remmers on Thu Oct 21 18:06:54 2010:

I watched the live stream of yesterday's Apple media event.  Theme
was "Back to the Mac" and focused on new Macintosh stuff.  Yes,
the next version of OS X will be named "Lion" and is expected to
be out next summer.  The demo focused on the new "Mission Control"
interface, which looks kind of like Spaces and Expose blended
together.

Much time was spent demo-ing the new iLife 11.  Uninteresting, from
my standpoint, since I don't use it much.

Another announcement:  Facetime (the iPhone 4 video calling feature)
is now available in beta for the Mac.  We downloaded it, checked it
out, and it actually works.  Might be a suitable way of handling
remote members at Grex Board meetings...

Jobs used his patented "One More Thing" slot to announce a redone
Macbook Air.  Just as the rumor mill forecast, it comes in two
sizes - 11 inch and 13 inch - is incredibly light (under three
pounds) and thin, and uses flash memory for storage instead of a
hard drive.  Seems like the ideal laptop to take along on trips,
so maybe I'll get one someday.


#6 of 37 by remmers on Thu Oct 21 18:10:03 2010:

Almost forgot another important announcement - the Mac App Store.
Modeled on the iPhone/iPad app store, it will be a centralized
service for downloading and installing Mac software.  Jobs pledged
to have it up and running in 90 days.


#7 of 37 by ball on Fri Nov 5 03:18:23 2010:

I like that it addresses the three main problems I see every day when
people bring me laptops to work on: DC jacks breaking, hard disks
failing or software infections.  I dislike that I could buy three PC
netbooks for the same price.


#8 of 37 by keesan on Fri Nov 5 03:23:37 2010:

We see a lot of dead motherboards, or failed solder joints other than in power
jacks (video area is common), also bad LCD inverters or cracked screens.
Occasionally a keyboard or modem shorts out and prevents booting.


#9 of 37 by remmers on Wed Nov 10 18:57:55 2010:

I just acquired a new Macbook Air, 13" version.  Light (under 3 lbs),
sturdy, fast, gorgeous display, boots really fast (under 30 seconds),
runs very cool (in contrast to my 17" Mac Pro, which feels like I have
a stove in my lap).  A bit pricey compared with PC netbooks, but then,
PC netbooks are crap. ;-)

So far I'm not missing the absent CD/DVD drive or ethernet port.  (I
do have a USB-to-ethernet cable in case of need.)

I'm really liking this machine.


#10 of 37 by keesan on Wed Nov 10 20:57:01 2010:

DO they come with pcmcia slots or just USB?


#11 of 37 by remmers on Thu Nov 11 22:29:01 2010:

The 13" Air has two USB ports, a port for an external monitor, and
an SD card slot.  (The 11" lacks the SD slot.)

(Getting slightly off topic here, as this is an OS X item, not a
hardware item.)


#12 of 37 by rcurl on Mon Dec 27 23:23:52 2010:

I have a url that I want to store as a bookmark in Firefox. It is 
http://www.goodsearch.com/?charityid=927258. However when I open that 
and click on Save Bookmark, it rewrites the url as just 
http://www.goodsearch.com, which does not save in Firefox with the 
appendix /?charityid=927258.

I found a way around this by creating a bookmark alias which can be 
saved by Firefox. But is there a direct way to bookmark the page?


#13 of 37 by remmers on Tue Dec 28 19:58:29 2010:

Hmmm...  Not exactly an OS X question, but let's see.  

When I type that URL directly into Firefox's address box and hit
'return', the '?charityid=927258' query gets stripped off and the page
www.goodsearch.com is displayed.  This happens with the Safari and
Google Chrome browsers too.  On the other hand, if I just make up some
random querty, like http://www.goodsearch.com/?foo=bar, the query part
is *not* stripped off.  This suggests to me that the stripping is
something that's being done by the server.  Dunno exactly what's
happening, but the problem seems to be broader than just a Firefox
bookmarking issue.



#14 of 37 by rcurl on Wed Dec 29 04:34:42 2010:

I agree - the site clips the extension. I was hoping that there is a 
modification of the url that will fool the cite into not doing that, so 
I can bookmark it. What finally I did was copy the desired url to the 
clipboard and then used <Clipboard-Save-As 1.0.5> to save it to the HD 
as a .htm file. This can then be used as a bookmark, as it is not 
changed by the site. (I saved this "revised" bookmark as 
file:///Users/ranecurl/Documents/MKC_GoodShop.html.htm 
That's what I called an alias.)


#15 of 37 by remmers on Fri Jan 7 14:01:01 2011:

Apple released an OS X update yesterday, bringing it to version 10.6.6.
 The most noticeable change was the addition of the Mac App Store, which
is now open for business.  It's modeled after the app stores for the
iPhone and iPad, and Apple is really pushing it as the place to get 3rd
party Mac software.  After the OS upgrade, you're got a new "App Store"
application with a dock icon and apple menu entry.

I tried it out.  Once you get past the hassle of logging in and
authenticating yourself the first time (so that they can charge you for
any for-pay apps you install), the process of installing apps is really
seamless.  Just click on the "install" button for the app and the app's
icon floats from the store window to the dock (nice animation effect), a
little progress bar appears in the icon while the app takes a few
seconds to download, and then you've got it.  No messing with dmg or zip
files, no dragging of icons to your application folder.

At this point, the store has around 1000 items.  Some are free, some
cost money.  Lots of games, with $19.99 being a popular price.  Seems
steep to me.  I suspect prices will fall over time as the competition
heats up.

The store has generated quite a bit of buzz in its first day.  A number
of "this changes everything" blog posts.  On the flip side, various
complaints about the user interface, suggestions for improvement. 
People are already finding and publishing ways that the store can be hacked.

I've got mixed feelings about the "company store" phenomenon that Apple
pioneered with the iPhone.  The convenience and ease of use are
impressive, but everything in the store has to meet criteria for
approval that Apple decides.  It's true that you can still install
software the old way from other sites or from disk, but I worry that if
the store becomes popular enough, developers will feel that to be
successful they have to get their app into the store, and this means
conforming to Apple's criteria for admissability.  I wonder if it's
technically feasible for a third party "store" app to be developed that
has the same level of user-friendliness.

Hm, the store doesn't have "Dropbox" yet, one of the most useful
applications of all time.  Hopefully that's a temporary omission.


#16 of 37 by remmers on Fri Jan 7 14:17:02 2011:

Hey, there's already a web comic about the App Store:
http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1487.html


#17 of 37 by nharmon on Sun Jan 9 03:01:21 2011:

Bah, I have the Ubuntu Software Center. ;)

One positive you didn't mention is that the app store could become a
sort of quality benchmark for applications like the ipod/iphone app
store is. I definitely see value in that. Also, a lot of the software
titles are cheaper from the app store than they are at the app[le] store. :)


#18 of 37 by remmers on Sun Jan 9 19:50:09 2011:

Hm.  My quality benchmark for an app is reading what people have to say
about it.  The web's really good for that.  What advantage does an app
store offer over that for ascertaining quality?

It's been noted that one needs to be cautious when navigating the store.
 One-click purchasing is the only option, so if you accidentally click
on the "buy" button for an app, you've bought it, with no opportunity to
confirm the decision or change your mind.  (The Kindle Store at least
provides an "oops, I clicked by accident" button that will reverse the
charge.)  As a precaution, it's recommended that you navigate the store
in a signed-out state, and only sign in when you want to buy something.


#19 of 37 by nharmon on Mon Jan 10 16:56:02 2011:

eeK. Even the iPhone app store requires you to click twice and maybe put
in a password for everything you buy.


#20 of 37 by remmers on Mon Jan 10 23:31:40 2011:

It's such an obvious misfeature that my guess is it'll be fixed via an
update at some point.


#21 of 37 by rcurl on Thu Jan 13 21:38:00 2011:

This is a specific rather than a general OS X question, for which I hope 
you will forgive me.

A folder called Developer appeared on my Desktop. I did not put it 
there, so I think I accidentally dragged it from elsewhere on the HD. It 
contains a folder called Extras, which contains a folder called 
Palettes, which contains a folder called QTKit.palette....and so forth. 
Where does it belong?


#22 of 37 by nharmon on Fri Jan 14 02:55:18 2011:

/usr/local/bin

no, j/k


#23 of 37 by rcurl on Fri Jan 14 05:49:10 2011:

In directory usr there are directories bin and local, but local does not
contain a bin. /usr/bin does contain a gazillion files. But even given that,
I don't see how I could have pulled Developer out of /usr.., since I don't
play around at that depth. What do the files in Developer do, anyway?


#24 of 37 by nharmon on Fri Jan 14 13:04:52 2011:

http://hintsforums.macworld.com/showthread.php?t=93950


#25 of 37 by rcurl on Fri Jan 14 21:35:27 2011:

Hey, that's great! Thanks. I did try a Google search on those file 
names, but didn't find anything. Google does seem to dig into some 
forums, but I guess not all (or if they are very old?).

I always install the new software offered. I don't know why this was put 
on the Desktop when I did - but it was put behind the window for Mac HD, 
which I keep open, so I didn't see it at the time.

I'm not likely to get into "developing", so I guess I can trash it. But 
where should it reside? Like in the forum discussion, I'm running OS 
10.4.11 (though Intel, not PPC). 


#26 of 37 by remmers on Sat Jan 15 22:13:25 2011:

You're still on Tiger?  Oh my.  Is your Mac Intel or Power PC?

The Developer folder probably should reside in the root directory "/". 
That's where the Mac software development tools are stored, for those
who choose to install them.  Yes, you can probably trash it.


#27 of 37 by rcurl on Sun Jan 16 05:29:14 2011:

I'm still on OS 10.4.11 Intel (I haven't bothered to remember those 
goofy animal names for versions). The installer for 10.5 came with the 
computer but I haven't installed it because I think it might make a 
bunch of installed apps disfunctional.

You have given me courage to trash it...


#28 of 37 by keesan on Sun Jan 16 14:43:05 2011:

You could put in a different hard drive and try OS 10.5 on it.


#29 of 37 by rcurl on Tue Jan 18 05:23:05 2011:

What will that show?


#30 of 37 by keesan on Tue Jan 18 15:45:18 2011:

That will let you experiment with OS 10.5 without losing 10.4.


#31 of 37 by rcurl on Tue Jan 18 21:08:03 2011:

It's not OS 10.4 I'm afraid of losing. It is the other applications running
under it that might not under 10.5. I'm dependent on some and have no need
to upgrade. Those applications won't be on another drive (which I don't have,
anyway).


#32 of 37 by keesan on Tue Jan 18 23:07:34 2011:

What is the minimum size drive you can install a minimum version of OS 0.5
to?


#33 of 37 by rcurl on Wed Jan 19 04:53:10 2011:

You are missing my point. I'd have to install all those apps to test them
under 10.5, and I might have to buy upgrades to run under 10.5. It 
isn't worth it yet. 



#34 of 37 by remmers on Sat Jan 22 23:44:34 2011:

The websites associated with your apps would probably have information
on compatibility with 10.5.  Also, if you boot from a 10.5 external
drive, it will be able to access the 10.4 internal drive, so you could
test whether the existing versions of the apps will run under 10.5
without reinstalling them.

All of which would be a fun exercise for me (I'm an inveterate futzer)
but maybe not for you.  It's just that 10.5 (and, even more, 10.6) has
significant improvements over 10.4 that I use heavily (e.g. Spotlight),
so for me, upgrading to the latest version of the OS was well worth it.


#35 of 37 by rcurl on Sun Jan 23 05:25:45 2011:

Hadn't thought of that. My 10.5 install disk should boot. 
(10.4 has Spotlight)


#36 of 37 by remmers on Mon Jan 24 13:46:37 2011:

(Spotlight improved considerably with 10.5.)


#37 of 37 by remmers on Wed Jan 26 16:46:46 2011:

Also re resp:35 - Right, you can boot from the 10.5 disk and then check
whether relevant stuff on the 10.4 disk will run.  Testing in this way
is somewhat limited - most apps try to create various folders and files
the first time they're run, and they won't be able to since the 10.5
disk isn't writeable.  But you should at least be able to see if things
will start up.


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