Grex Sexuality Conference

Item 32: Slutty Phases

Entered by viper2 on Thu May 16 17:33:40 2002:

49 new of 129 responses total.


#81 of 129 by mynxcat on Wed Jun 12 16:00:24 2002:

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#82 of 129 by jaklumen on Thu Jun 13 03:26:40 2002:

resp:80 yep, I figured I'd get that.  If you'd rather I be specific, 
it has been noted that it is more particular among numbers of young 
black and Hispanic gay males because of cultural taboos, machismo 
among them.  For example, "tops" are not seen as necessarily gay, 
while "bottoms" most certainly are.

In general, it has been found that infection is once again on the rise 
in the gay/bi youth population, and it is surmised that it is because 
the fear of AIDS is not as prominent as it once was; these young men 
do not have friends who have died yet.

Why it's not equally a concern among the lesbian/female bi population, 
I'm not sure, but I think risk factors are not considered as high.  
They also don't seem to be interested so much in cruising for sex.  
(Not all gay/bi men are, but if you think the cruise culture doesn't 
exist, you're kidding yourself.)

It has been reported in the news media: I remember hearing about it on 
NPR and in a Seattle newspaper.

Clearly, numbers this high among either gender would indicate a degree 
of sexual addiction, which is a concern.  However, it is folly not to 
examine that gays and bisexuals may be part of the picture.  Men with 
both male and female partners are a concern: there is a larger 
potential pool of infection.

I congratulate you if you haven't been there, Dan, but trust me, I 
have.  Pretending that everyone *is* equally sexually promiscuous to 
this kind of degree isn't quite fair.

Besides, I didn't say the rock stars and athletes were necessarily 
gay/bisexual.  Freddy Mercury fits the bill, but Magic Johnson, Wilt 
Chamberlain, Gene Simmons, and others who have boasted or spoke of 
their numerous conquests clearly do not (yes mynx, they did get away 
with that and then they told everyone).

Also, the numbers of Catholic priests who are now being found to be 
pedophilic or otherwise sexually predatory-- I don't think 
homosexuality is really a root cause here.  There are indeed 
homosexual priests-- this has been confirmed-- but I doubt they 
necessarily comprise a significant portion.


#83 of 129 by void on Thu Jun 13 17:02:36 2002:

   No one really knows about woman-to-woman HIV transmission.  There
was one study in 1991, and all the women in the study were IV drug
users, bisexual, or both.


#84 of 129 by jazz on Thu Jun 13 17:39:14 2002:

        Studies are scarce, but available scientific evidence points to a much
lower rate of transmission for cunnilingus than for fellatio, fisting, or anal
sex.


#85 of 129 by void on Fri Jun 14 00:39:00 2002:

   Possible, but no one knows.  'Sides, who says lesbians don't fist
or share anal toys?


#86 of 129 by orinoco on Fri Jun 14 03:08:38 2002:

(ding!)


#87 of 129 by jaklumen on Fri Jun 14 16:10:42 2002:

Just out of curiousity, again, how does one sanitize toys?  I had a 
gay friend who said he knew how to do it, with bleach-- I think it was 
similar to the way you sterilize needles, the way they teach nurses.


#88 of 129 by phenix on Fri Jun 14 16:39:53 2002:

you can a) boil 'em
b) use bleech 
c) only use them on one person.
basically if it's a porous surface your stuck with c


#89 of 129 by jazz on Fri Jun 14 16:53:38 2002:

        Re #85:

        I certainly didn't.  I was just listing different types of sex. 
Obviously a gay male that is only into mutual masturbation is safer than a
gay female who's into bloodsports.


#90 of 129 by phenix on Fri Jun 14 17:02:34 2002:

or any of the "vampyr" varity of pud monkey


#91 of 129 by orinoco on Fri Jun 14 19:04:48 2002:

Re #87: AFAIK, there is no "way you sterilize needles" at a hospital.  Unless
I'm very much mistaken, hospitals don't re-use needles.


#92 of 129 by mynxcat on Fri Jun 14 20:44:39 2002:

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#93 of 129 by i on Sat Jun 15 02:36:20 2002:

Medical-quality sterile is easy to do with the right gadget.  It looks like
a very-high-end all-stainless toaster oven.  Stuff goes into it on thin
metal trays, and gets cooked in 250-300 degree steam for 10+ minutes.

Re: #78
Going home from the meat-market singles bar with a different sex partner
every night is (very sad to say, disease-wise) how some people live.  Do
that for a few years, and 1000+ sex partners is fairly easy to reach.  No
need to be a model or famous - fairly young & 90th percentile attractive
is more than good enough for most meat-market bars.


#94 of 129 by jazz on Mon Jun 17 16:56:34 2002:

        I've known a few people who've lived that way, but for most it's just
a short phase.

        You don't even have to be young and ninetieth-percentile attractive.


#95 of 129 by oval on Mon Jun 17 20:28:08 2002:

..people can get by on just the mere fact that they are intersting.



#96 of 129 by mynxcat on Tue Jun 18 14:51:42 2002:

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#97 of 129 by jazz on Tue Jun 18 17:26:25 2002:

        Yup.


#98 of 129 by oval on Wed Jun 19 02:39:02 2002:

or human.



#99 of 129 by lelande on Thu Jun 20 22:02:08 2002:

or there.


#100 of 129 by oval on Fri Jun 21 01:27:36 2002:

or an inanimate object with an orifice.



#101 of 129 by orinoco on Fri Jun 21 01:45:43 2002:

I don't think toys count as 'slutty,' really.  A sex toy with scruples and
discretion would probably be considered defective...


#102 of 129 by mynxcat on Fri Jun 21 16:51:45 2002:

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#103 of 129 by i on Sat Jun 22 01:07:45 2002:

It depends - does it say anything about scruples or discretion on the
personality module that you just plugged into your Bimbobot(r)?  Did
you pay enough attention to know?  Or did you download a pirate person-
ality and flash it into a hotwired pm?  Count yourself lucky if the
pirate per' wasn't rescripted by some sicko with torture fantasies, Mr.
Flasher!


#104 of 129 by oval on Mon Jun 24 07:22:05 2002:

i dunno that grapefruit is probably pretty discrete before someone cuts a
hole in it and has his way with it, even with his brand new prince albert.



#105 of 129 by lelande on Mon Jun 24 09:14:34 2002:

the cherry 2000 is a high class model.


#106 of 129 by jazz on Mon Jun 24 17:04:09 2002:

        This shit is getting a might weird ...


#107 of 129 by mynxcat on Mon Jun 24 21:32:08 2002:

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#108 of 129 by jaklumen on Tue Jun 25 08:24:20 2002:

hey man, you ain't seen the half of it.


#109 of 129 by jazz on Tue Jun 25 16:37:05 2002:

        ... and this is coming from a man who's seen things.  I mean, just this
morning, I heard the theme song to Gilligan's Island sung to the tune of
Amazing Grace (it works, try it) and heard the subject of necrophillia
discussed before noon.


#110 of 129 by phenix on Tue Jun 25 22:34:28 2002:

better is gilligan's island sung to the tune of that led zepplin song


#111 of 129 by orinoco on Wed Jun 26 00:19:34 2002:

Er... which Led Zeppelin song would that be?  I suppose you could do it to
the first half of Stairway to Heaven, but after that "if there's a bustle in
your hedgerow" bit it wouldn't work out so well.


#112 of 129 by cyklone on Wed Jun 26 02:09:13 2002:

Is this the slutty phases or slutty phrases item?


#113 of 129 by mynxcat on Wed Jun 26 02:51:53 2002:

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#114 of 129 by jaklumen on Wed Jun 26 09:41:45 2002:

resp:111 It's already been done, Dan-- a tune called "Stairway to 
Gilligan's Isle" and Dr. Demento has played on the show in the past.  
Betcha dimes to dollars Tim Ryan has a copy of it.


#115 of 129 by director on Fri Apr 4 03:17:32 2003:

I just have to say that I have the utmoast respect for women especially when
they are in there slutty phases.  How can you tell a women is in her slutty
phase though? Now that is the question?
enter
stop


#116 of 129 by jazz on Fri Apr 4 15:48:09 2003:

        Because they'll loudly announce how they just broke up with their
boyfriend, if they're interested in you (either as potential dating or ONS
material, or as someone to have around to bolster their self-esteem).


#117 of 129 by jaklumen on Fri Apr 4 20:37:44 2003:

or they go around announcing to everyone else how great the fucking is 
with so-and-so.


#118 of 129 by cyklone on Fri Apr 4 21:45:24 2003:

It's all about booty language . . . .


#119 of 129 by i on Sat Apr 5 01:15:30 2003:

If she's going with a guy, she is no more than distantly polite.  If
she isn't going with a guy, she is very friendly to me, with a sort of
open & eager expression in her face & voice.

I'll be polite and maintain a definite distance from her, but respect
is too nice a word for my attitude.


#120 of 129 by jazz on Sun Apr 6 00:56:26 2003:

        I guess the question is really how to *get* with someone who's in
that phase.  I'm not entirely sure why you'd want to, but hey, whatever
works.

        If you're curious whether someone's seeing someone, it's pretty easy
to figure out.  Just ask them.  Tap her on the shoulder and ask if she has
a beau.  Or approach it indirectly, like, "damn, I bet your boyfriend loves
that", or "I sure hope your boyfriend appreciates that."

        Well, that won't tell you whether they have one or not, but it'll
tell you if they want you to think they do. :P


#121 of 129 by vidar on Sun Apr 6 21:31:58 2003:

Well, it's not the original topic, but I should do that.  There's this 
woman in RoS whom I like, but I don't know if she's seeing anyone.  
Granted, even just asking will be hard, I rarely have an opening for 
flirting or it's awkward to create one.


#122 of 129 by phenix on Mon Apr 7 15:40:03 2003:

they just go up and ask if she's like some luv juice


#123 of 129 by vidar on Mon Apr 7 17:27:29 2003:

I've accidentally scared enough people I'm interested in that I don't 
want to seem like frightening her is my intention.  What I have found, 
however, is that if you just up front ask somebody out, if they're 
seeing somebody they mention that when they tell you no.

Next time I see her, I'll ask her out on something minor.  Like a drink 
after Ring (not the alcoholic kind, she's a little young for that).


#124 of 129 by jazz on Tue Apr 8 14:00:07 2003:

        I have the opposite experience;  if you're asking someone out, and
they're seeing someone, they don't often tell you at all.  May have to do with
the people I ask versus the ones you ask, though.


#125 of 129 by vidar on Tue Apr 8 14:28:56 2003:

Might also have to do with whether it's "just dating" or "going 
steady".  In any case, I'll respect a no, and follow through if 
response is possitive.


#126 of 129 by kewy on Fri May 2 03:24:42 2003:

From a female perspective, the "I bet your boyfriend love that" line is so
transparant, and pretty obnoxious in my mind.  I'd much rather be asked a
question directly, I'm not a fan of all the round-a-bout, yet obvious nuances
in getting to know someone.


#127 of 129 by jazz on Sat May 3 04:16:23 2003:

        It is pretty transparent, and a lot of people need that it seems.

        Crafting conversation is always more of an art than a science, though.


#128 of 129 by phenix on Sat May 3 15:22:46 2003:

y'know. ot. i feel bad for the poor boy (or whoever) that says that to katy..
but yha, i've been to quite a few sci-fi cons, and i have to say, the thrid
most painfull thing is watching a semi-suave geek blow it with that kinda
line


#129 of 129 by jazz on Sat May 3 23:04:07 2003:

        Cheesy works.

        Among the cheesier I've seen work personally.

        "You know, it occurs to me that I owe you an apology, for leaving
last night without asking you out.  Can I make it up to you, over dinner?"

        "I've decided something ... " "That you're just too cute to not ask
out."

        "How are you going to return it when you're done?  I know, here's my
phone number.  Call me when you're done.  Or give me yours.  And I'll call
you well before you're done."

        None of the above would work if you really took yourself all that
seriously.  But then if someone takes themselves that seriously, then I
don't want anything to do with them.


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