Grex Sexuality Conference

Item 1: WELCOME TO THE GREATEST SHOW ON GREX

Entered by phenix on Tue Aug 28 23:59:24 2001:

208 new of 241 responses total.


#34 of 241 by arianna on Mon Oct 22 20:00:45 2001:

dan, there was nothing inane in my question.  hmph. (;

brighn: I think your lif eis interesting enough without adding an Erinn to
it.  *smirk*


#35 of 241 by phenix on Mon Oct 22 21:45:46 2001:

i want erinn in my life, by the grinder please


#36 of 241 by jaklumen on Thu Nov 1 11:07:28 2001:

I've been gone for a real long time, and now I'm back!

*sigh*

I don't know what lingering reputation I've left, but.. (long story) 
well, I hope no one will think ill of me for attempting to grow up and 
become a family man.. Julie's almost 3 mos. pregnant now.


#37 of 241 by phenix on Thu Nov 1 17:16:48 2001:

neat.


#38 of 241 by orinoco on Thu Nov 1 19:38:40 2001:

Wow.  Congratulations, both of you.


#39 of 241 by mooncat on Thu Nov 8 21:05:41 2001:

<blinks at #32> Don't I know you?


#40 of 241 by flem on Fri Nov 9 18:48:35 2001:

IWLTA that I spent probably two or three minutes staring at #35, marvelling
at its zen-like qualities.  Well, more Discordian than Zen, I suppose.


#41 of 241 by phenix on Fri Nov 9 20:48:17 2001:

<bow>
zen and the art of BDSM, new from time life books...
no, wait, that's this old house of bondage..


#42 of 241 by lelande on Thu Nov 15 19:50:59 2001:

the author of #30 is nearly my hero, nearly the wind beneath my wings.
chloe sevigny.


#43 of 241 by sforza on Thu Nov 22 01:04:46 2001:

whats up


#44 of 241 by phenix on Thu Nov 22 05:42:23 2001:

nothing much


#45 of 241 by lelande on Thu Nov 22 06:59:07 2001:

you said it.


#46 of 241 by rhys on Mon Dec 3 19:07:14 2001:

Been rather inactive here for a while. A BBS was the last place I'd expect
to find a singles thing, not very interactive, but don't knock it until you've
tried it! I suppose...?.


#47 of 241 by phenix on Mon Dec 3 20:16:39 2001:

hey, grex used to have massive amounts of fly honeys
ahh, those salmon days


#48 of 241 by vidar on Mon Dec 3 22:10:08 2001:

I distinctly remember those perverts who'd come in and pester people 
with requests for pornographic chats.


#49 of 241 by phenix on Tue Dec 4 00:44:08 2001:

this was before then


#50 of 241 by eeyore on Tue Dec 4 02:27:22 2001:

What, am I not a fly honey?


#51 of 241 by phenix on Tue Dec 4 03:46:16 2001:

no comment:)


#52 of 241 by lelande on Wed Dec 5 02:36:27 2001:

'eeyore' wasn't such a looker among those at club ashdown.


#53 of 241 by phenix on Wed Dec 5 03:03:13 2001:

club ashdown?


#54 of 241 by eeyore on Wed Dec 5 03:36:29 2001:

That's what I was gonna ask.....


#55 of 241 by lelande on Wed Dec 5 20:16:09 2001:

http://www.just-pooh.com/ashdown.html


#56 of 241 by picard on Tue Dec 11 19:02:15 2001:

This is the most insane conversation I have ever seen, I like it, how you
doing greg?  and again, club ashdown?


#57 of 241 by phenix on Tue Dec 11 23:39:37 2001:

i'm doing quite well actually.
getting a chance to use my madz skillz again


#58 of 241 by jaklumen on Thu Dec 13 02:24:25 2001:

resp:36  We're at 18 weeks now (going on five months.)

So neat to be a daddy-in-training.

But back to the topic of this forum, and perhaps a twist to the 
conversation..

Anyone else experience a change in the sex life before, during, and 
after pregnancy?  Did it make a difference whether it was planned or 
not?   To how few people would this question apply?

Maybe we could make it a new item, or discuss it in another existing 
item.. I know this one probably isn't the most appropriate, with intros 
here and all. 


#59 of 241 by michaela on Thu Dec 13 02:37:08 2001:

Pregnant women are known to have increased sexual desire from six months on,
due to pressure from the baby on the cervix/uterus.


#60 of 241 by lelande on Thu Dec 13 10:20:13 2001:

it FEEDS the baby


#61 of 241 by i on Fri Dec 14 03:32:02 2001:

Is more sex late in pregnancy Mother Nature's way of keeping Mr. Hope-He's-
Right around a bit later to provide for baby & chase off the sabertooths?


#62 of 241 by orinoco on Fri Dec 14 23:25:00 2001:

It seems like if Sarah's explanation is right, a higher sex drive late in
pregnancy isn't something that would need to evolve separately: it would be
a natural consequence of human babies getting so big in the womb. 

(But I guess if a high sex drive turned out to be an evolutionary problem
for a pregnant woman, we might have evolved something to counteract it --
maybe a hormonal shift of some sort.  Still, it seems to me like a
convenient coincidence, not a `design feature.')



#63 of 241 by eeyore on Sat Dec 15 09:13:42 2001:

There is also the possible idea that it keeps the men coming back.  For the
first few months you aren't feeling well enough to have sex, and his eye might
wander a bit after a little while.  Then, you are horny as hell, and he's
really happy, happy enough to stick out the fact that the moment that baby
is born, you aren't having sex again for a couple of months.


#64 of 241 by michaela on Sun Dec 16 00:54:31 2001:

It's nothing more than pressure.  The same is true for enjoying orgasms more
if you have a semi-full bladder.


#65 of 241 by jaklumen on Thu Dec 20 10:05:49 2001:

Ah, six months then.


#66 of 241 by michaela on Thu Dec 20 12:51:28 2001:

Well, it varies...  a lot depends on how the woman is carrying and if her
hormones are at the right levels.  The downside is that a woman is usually
quite large at that point and doesn't *feel* sexy.


#67 of 241 by codie on Sat Dec 22 18:28:54 2001:

Woman should feel sexy.... I think so.... :))


#68 of 241 by phenix on Sat Dec 22 18:49:48 2001:

women should feel soft and wrm:)
that is sexy


#69 of 241 by michaela on Sun Dec 23 09:23:19 2001:

It's hard to feel sexy when you can't bend over far enough to tie your own
shoes...  :)


#70 of 241 by i on Sun Dec 23 13:16:58 2001:

Is that innate, or because you've been programmed by Giant Media, Inc. to
believe that women must comform to a very restrictive shape standard in
order to be sexy?


#71 of 241 by phenix on Sun Dec 23 15:57:54 2001:

innate mostly. i don't like the style of women on media.
they never show the honies i like. blond is ich mostly
and more than a handfull can be too much. well. except it doesn't bind well.
i have to give mad prps to the japanese, that's hard work


#72 of 241 by jaklumen on Mon Dec 24 03:52:13 2001:

I'm sure it's perceptions of both said woman and her partner.


#73 of 241 by michaela on Mon Dec 31 10:57:01 2001:

Greg - is there any way to access the old cflirt items?


#74 of 241 by i on Mon Dec 31 12:47:41 2001:

The old cflirt conference is still around as "sexuality2".  In PicoSpan,
the command "j sexuality2" takes you there, i'd have to peek at Backtalk
and it might depend on which interface you were using (ask if needed).


#75 of 241 by phenix on Mon Dec 31 17:15:07 2001:

well..umm. there yha go


#76 of 241 by void on Sun Jan 6 12:07:05 2002:

   Wow...I take off for a while and y'all restart the cf.  Nice decor.


#77 of 241 by phenix on Sun Jan 6 18:34:54 2002:

thanks
<bow> i worked hard, but everyone else filled itup


#78 of 241 by jazz on Tue Feb 12 16:42:06 2002:

        Greg, if you moved the "rules" section of the conference into a
one-time file (I forget what those are called, but I'll look it up) and
tidied up the intro, it'd be under a page, and we wouldn't have to go through
a pager while reading it.


#79 of 241 by phenix on Tue Feb 12 17:44:03 2002:

one time file? ok. poing


#80 of 241 by morwen on Tue Feb 12 23:23:14 2002:

resp:64 I'll have to remember that Sarah.  Approaching the end of the 
7th month now.  Aside from a whole lot of psychiatric problems, 
everything is as you predicted.  Now I just gotta get past the 
psychiatric stuff and I'm home free.  Wooohooo!


#81 of 241 by i on Wed Feb 13 03:26:50 2002:

Re: #78/79
It's called a bulletin (bull for short).  The fw can edit it using the
PicoSpan "set bull" command.  (Backtalk's probably got a button somewhere.)
It's similar to an item in the sense that it's displayed once to every 
user who hasn't already seen the current version of it.  (Or anyone can
use the "display bulletin" command to view it again, or.....)


#82 of 241 by abynow on Thu Feb 14 10:03:16 2002:

hi ppl


#83 of 241 by seagate on Thu Feb 14 21:57:30 2002:



#84 of 241 by faile on Fri Mar 8 04:07:39 2002:

After such a long absence that I was able to get my old login using "newuser",
I'm back, for anyone who may remember me.  (It has been almost 2 years.)


#85 of 241 by phenix on Fri Mar 8 04:52:26 2002:

TZAR TZAR <POUNCEHUGGLESLURP>


#86 of 241 by jazz on Fri Mar 8 15:33:02 2002:

        Hey there, Falcon.


#87 of 241 by morwen on Sat Mar 9 06:27:14 2002:

wb Jess.


#88 of 241 by faile on Mon Mar 11 01:48:05 2002:

Slurp?  *grin*


#89 of 241 by jazz on Mon Mar 11 04:40:59 2002:

        Aiie.  The visuals.  Aiie.


#90 of 241 by jaklumen on Mon Mar 11 05:02:13 2002:

Jess!  How's life?  How's the music biz, or you doing something else 
these days?  So good to see you again =)


#91 of 241 by phenix on Mon Mar 11 12:36:47 2002:

dude. too much acid:)


#92 of 241 by faile on Tue Mar 12 19:48:50 2002:

Things are good.  I'm biding my time while waiting to go to grad school (maybe
in the fall.. we'll see what happens) and planning a wedding.  


#93 of 241 by phenix on Tue Mar 12 20:28:37 2002:

another one bites the dust
another one bites the dust
uh uh uih
and another one down and another one down
another one bites the dust


#94 of 241 by brighn on Tue Mar 12 20:35:33 2002:

*offers consoling hugs to greg*


#95 of 241 by phenix on Tue Mar 12 22:09:05 2002:

eh. i'm just feeling my age;)


#96 of 241 by jazz on Tue Mar 12 23:26:49 2002:

        Somehow, a guy hug is not what I think Greg was wanting ...


#97 of 241 by phenix on Tue Mar 12 23:35:37 2002:

<chuckle> what i'm wanting is for all the avalible non-psychotic atractive
intelegent women to not disspier on me;)


#98 of 241 by jazz on Wed Mar 13 03:45:36 2002:

        Well, there's your problem.  Your standards are too high.  I dropped
the "non-psychotic" requirement years ago.


#99 of 241 by faile on Wed Mar 13 03:54:18 2002:

Anyway, who says I'm not psycotic? ;)


#100 of 241 by jaklumen on Wed Mar 13 06:37:36 2002:

psycotic or psychotic?

grad school.. man, I wish I could afford that.  I'm down in the 
trenches with a sucky local economy, debt, and a baby on the way.


#101 of 241 by phenix on Wed Mar 13 15:52:50 2002:

i'm sorry. i think i've done my part in dating borken women.
i think i'm entitled to a little nookie that won't drive
me down the path of the dark side.
and my standards are high, hell yha, 'cause i deserve it


#102 of 241 by jazz on Wed Mar 13 16:26:39 2002:

        I know what you mean.  I'm beginning to think, these days, that
relationship insanity isn't something that a person has, but something that
two people do.  But it's one of those things that people understand so little
about intellectually that they find themselves acting in ways they can't
explain, for reasons they're not fully in touch with.

        Granted, some people really are whacked.  But even the most whacked
of them, and the worst relationship material of the bunch, eventually find
something.  If only for a while.  So there's a lot of give and take there.


#103 of 241 by brighn on Wed Mar 13 17:01:14 2002:

#101 sounded like Fred Durst and Trent Reznor tried to write a song together.


#104 of 241 by phenix on Wed Mar 13 17:26:33 2002:

why thank you. though i'd prefer lincoln park and tretn reznor, 'cause
reznor is da man and all.
but seriously, it's enough to make a man drink.
tempted to cruise the virgin vaults for unfucked up women.
either that or, ok, anyone notice that women have a "slut" phase?
why can' ti ever find a girlie in that mode?
like, what's up with that, sex is fun for like, 2 years or so and then
all of a sudden it's "a special and wonderfull gift"
wtf


#105 of 241 by brighn on Wed Mar 13 18:50:47 2002:

I dunno, but if you find a girl in that mode, find out if she has a friend
you could send my way.


#106 of 241 by oval on Wed Mar 13 19:15:55 2002:

i love how women who love sex are in 'slut mode'. c'mon people.


#107 of 241 by flem on Wed Mar 13 19:27:34 2002:

Actually, the reverse is true.  I find taht women in "slut mode" are almost
never actually interested in sex. [*] It's the image, the bad-girl thing.  

[*] or if they are, they still ahve just as high standards as ever.  They 
may want sex, but not with you, loser. 


#108 of 241 by oval on Wed Mar 13 19:31:33 2002:

haha


#109 of 241 by phenix on Wed Mar 13 19:36:57 2002:

i said "slut" mode, not slut mode. 
personally the world would be a happy palce if slut were as good a compliment
as playah


#110 of 241 by oval on Wed Mar 13 20:13:36 2002:

oh i didnt know playah was a compliment..


#111 of 241 by brighn on Wed Mar 13 20:15:51 2002:

It's less of an insult than "slut."


#112 of 241 by phenix on Wed Mar 13 20:46:12 2002:

most people i know would not be horribly offended and become social
pariahh's for being called playah


#113 of 241 by jazz on Wed Mar 13 21:21:38 2002:

        "Playa" is about as much of an insult as "capitalist" - if someone is
one, they're not really likely to be offended by calling them one.

        If I'm understanging Greg right here, the concept is pretty much the
same for both genders.  Guys can have their "slut phases" too, and I'm pretty
sure I've referred to myself as having one, somewhere in this conference. 
Fuck the occupation, we're reclaiming the word!

        However, when people are in their "slut phase", it's not that they're
crazy for anything to come their way, or even that their standards have
dropped, necessarily, but that they don't want to commit to any one person,
or want to explore different options, so things like long-term compatibility
can be completely eclipsed by a nice ass.  People who're in one tend to make
more superficial choices.

        You're telling me you want someone to go after you for more superficial
reasons?


#114 of 241 by phenix on Wed Mar 13 21:45:31 2002:

no, i'm looking for the exploritory bit;)
most people on the other side of the phase have gotten "board" wit hsex
or had such bad experinces that they don't want to have it or only 
have it one or two particular ways.
the "slut" phase is characterized by sex not being dirty, or sex being
dirty but fun and desierable, as opposed to an activty done soley
to please a mate or in a ritualitic fashion as some sort of bonding exercise


#115 of 241 by cyklone on Wed Mar 13 23:04:53 2002:

Or put more simply, you want Fun Sex, not Relationship Sex.

BTW, great comments recently. This is one of the best Grex discussions
I've stumbled over in a long time. 



#116 of 241 by phenix on Thu Mar 14 01:39:26 2002:

well, yha. fun sex. though my idea of fun sex
may be more like peoples deviant/relatouinship sse
err, sex
oh well.


#117 of 241 by cyklone on Thu Mar 14 01:49:58 2002:

Just remember, it's easier for women to go from Fun Sex to Relationship
Sex than it is to go in the other direction.

At least from what I've observed. 



#118 of 241 by jaklumen on Thu Mar 14 03:23:39 2002:

I'm figuring it must be a biological urge.  It's beneficial to want 
the male to be around for the potential kids.

I suppose you could find some horny, unfufilled housewife.. but I 
doubt that would be a good idea (y'know, being in the "other man" 
role).


#119 of 241 by michaela on Thu Mar 14 07:20:48 2002:

Um, I'm not in a slut phase, and it's not because I'm bored with sex.  


#120 of 241 by jazz on Thu Mar 14 15:25:59 2002:

        There are a couple of factors in the decline in the frequency of sex
from the first months (of sexual activity, cough cough) of a relationship
until the last, and only one of them is a decline in a biological urge.  The
one that's most significant to me, because it's most controllable, is that
communication becomes ever so much more important as a relationship goes on,
and a breakdown in communication can really kill a libido.

        Insofar as the "sex being dirty" bit, good luck.  I've never seen a
phase wherein people who think sex is somehow wrong temporarily change their
mind.  Even if they did, the guilt aftermath would be untenable.  I cannot
suggest strongly enough that no one, except for their own kind, date prudes.

        Now about exploration, your mileage may vary.  A couple of people here
have mentioned that sitting down and talking about exploration works for
them.  It doesn't work for me.  I work towards trust, and then once I have
trust, I experiment a little, and if they enjoy it, then I continue;  if they
don't, I stop, and often later ask why.  Works pretty well. 


#121 of 241 by flem on Thu Mar 14 16:20:40 2002:

It would be great if you could ask someone if they are a prude and expect an
honest answer.  


#122 of 241 by jazz on Thu Mar 14 16:40:47 2002:

        You can't tell, really?


#123 of 241 by flem on Thu Mar 14 16:42:56 2002:

Well, there are prudes and prudes.  You can spot the ones that won't swear
and get offended by dirty jokes a mile away, but...  I consider them prudes
also who talk a good game but are all talk.  Those are harder to spot.  


#124 of 241 by phenix on Thu Mar 14 17:00:27 2002:

otherwise known as type b prudes, closet prudes, and teases


#125 of 241 by jazz on Thu Mar 14 17:18:05 2002:

        That's strange.  I've really never had a tough time knowing if
someone's sexually interested or not.  


#126 of 241 by brighn on Thu Mar 14 17:30:56 2002:

I get flirted with often because I'm married, ergo, "safe," even from people
who know I'm not "safe."


#127 of 241 by phenix on Thu Mar 14 17:57:14 2002:

yha, that safe thing is annoying.
like, duh, why would you chase after something you cant have
gah
people are stupid


#128 of 241 by brighn on Thu Mar 14 18:33:33 2002:

yep


#129 of 241 by jmsaul on Thu Mar 14 23:38:53 2002:

Hang on, weren't you complaining about being unattached?  Or were you just
complaining about not getting laid by enough people 'cause you're poly?

;-)


#130 of 241 by phenix on Thu Mar 14 23:47:08 2002:

no clue. i can never keep track of Grex: the whining


#131 of 241 by jazz on Fri Mar 15 01:27:09 2002:

        "As the hard drive turns ..."

        It could also be a case of Denied Bisexual Privilege;  not having one
partner of *each* gender.


#132 of 241 by brighn on Fri Mar 15 02:59:28 2002:

#129> I don't complain about being unattached because I'm not unattached.


#133 of 241 by orinoco on Fri Mar 15 16:07:51 2002:

Come on now, Jazz, you're going to give us a bad name.  That's _not_ what we
want, remember?  Repeat after me.... ;)

I'm starting to think that part of the problem comes from looking for too many
kinds of satisfaction from one person.  That is, our culture's deemed it
proper that we get all our sexual satisfaction from one person (well, not all
of us from the _same_ person, but you know what I mean), and that's okay on
its own, but on top of that we want to get all our psychological support, most
of our companionship, our sense of stability, our sense of adventure, our
need to be admired and to admire someone, and our help around the house...
all from the same person.  That's a nice ideal, but to _expect_ it -- or
worse, _demand_ it -- is gonna make your relationships devolve into strange
little bitchy dependent black holes, the way relationships often do.  
And even if you don't demand it, dating someone who does will turn out just
as badly.  


#134 of 241 by jazz on Fri Mar 15 16:34:20 2002:

        I'll agree with that.  Except in unusual cases, it's completely
unreasonable to expect one person to meet all of your needs, and when you're
in a monogamous relationship you do need to have friends, family, and
associates, and generally step out of the bedroom into the outside world once
in a while.

        That said, it doesn't mean that if you're bi, monogamy means one
partner of each gender.  There are a good number of people who actually think
that.  And it doesn't have anything to do with bisexuality;  I enjoy the
company of blondes, brunettes, and redheads, completely equally, but I would
never assert that because they appear different I get to have one of each
and still call it monogamy.

        That's BiPriv.


#135 of 241 by orinoco on Fri Mar 15 20:03:56 2002:

(Ooh, that's what I get for putting a joke and a real response in the same
entry.  I didn't mean to sound like I was plugging the "one cookie good, two
cookie better" school of bisexuality.  Thanks for catching that.)


#136 of 241 by phenix on Fri Mar 15 20:26:07 2002:

i could go for two cookies, preferably a brunette and a redhead:)
but then, i'm not bi:)


#137 of 241 by senna on Mon Mar 25 00:52:34 2002:

People who do try to meet all of each other's needs are in serious trouble.
Ever seen a married couple that works in the same workplace?  What do they
talk about at dinner?  Ther's nothing there.  Monogamous marriages are still
the joining of two *lives*, as in, separate lives involving different people
and experiences.  You can't be healthy without that.  Unfortunately, I've seen
too many people who hold out for relationships that they think will solve all
of their problems.  They don't last long.


#138 of 241 by jazz on Mon Mar 25 02:52:09 2002:

        On the contrary, some people can, and do, do just that.  It's not for
you.  It's not for me.  But some people really do crave that kind of
closeness much more than they do something interesting to talk about over the
dinner table.


#139 of 241 by morwen on Mon Mar 25 16:48:24 2002:

Jon and I once held jobs at the same business once.  Big mistake.  We 
argued all the time.  They shuffled me around a lot and eventually 
fired me.  In short, we were stuck in another town and, though I tried 
to call in, I called the wrong phone number and, so, was away from 
work for two scheduled shifts.  I'm not entirely sure but, considering 
how loud our arguments were (we'd only just been married) I would 
think they were most likely looking for an excuse to be rid of one of 
us.  I just provided an opportunity that was too good to miss.  


#140 of 241 by jaklumen on Tue Mar 26 01:17:38 2002:

It was a job at the university.  It was unfortunate at the time, but 
we learned from it.


#141 of 241 by senna on Tue Mar 26 03:47:54 2002:

Weren't you just saying that couples can't survive without outside
connections, John?


#142 of 241 by eskarina on Mon Apr 1 22:39:56 2002:

There's a married couple who both teach in the music school here... their
offices are right down the hall from each other.  Sometimes, if you're there
in the late afternoon, you'll hear them shouting down the hall about dinner
options.

I honestly don't know how they take it.

Then, I've never been much for 24-7 contact with any one person.


#143 of 241 by akkieuap on Fri Apr 5 09:28:16 2002:

hello to every one i wanna have a friend out here any body interested here?


#144 of 241 by rlejeune on Fri Apr 5 13:45:21 2002:

Sure, I'll be your pal.


#145 of 241 by kbman on Sat Apr 6 10:06:09 2002:

I did some photography wed night.  She is a very open type of girl.  Descrip:
5'5", 110, blonde/brown hair, brown eyes, cute.  Thing is she has a boyfreind,
and he knows about it and didn't care.  I got 70+ pics, both on film and
digital.  We had a blast.  I also found out last week that a girl I met at
clutch cargo's a year age who now lives in cali is now doing porn.  She said
her screen name is something like harley-croft or cross, not sure which.  she
is 19 and bi.  Its kinda cool but sucks 'cause i did like her.  She tells me
she'll be back to see me this year when she comes to visit family, but not
within the next 3 months. I don't really get on computers much but I have alot
of experiences I could share and I guess this is a good place for it.

 comments/questions?
?


#146 of 241 by jmsaul on Sat Apr 6 13:31:18 2002:

What?  No URL for the pictures?


#147 of 241 by jazz on Sat Apr 6 14:16:26 2002:

        It's much more fun if they don't KNOW you're taking the pictures.

        Yes, I'm kidding.


#148 of 241 by phenix on Sat Apr 6 15:17:33 2002:

or if they know but they're 16
yes i'm kidding as well.
<dodge><duck><roll>
heh
i remember back in the day when i was working at Mammon's when we'd
get "naughty" rolls in the good old lab
what a blast
this one time, in the photolab, there was this 15 year old gir, and her nsync
photos got swtiched for nekkid people doing coke off each other's genitals.
oh yha. her face was precious.
sheer fun for hours.
we also used to hve websites that'd come in, in the dark days before direct
digital cameras
<sigh> the good old days workn' for da man.
now i'm part of the man
vive la digerati


#149 of 241 by jazz on Sat Apr 6 18:14:03 2002:

        Whether you be glad, sad, or bad, you've got to know that there's fun
to be had.


#150 of 241 by brighn on Sun Apr 7 00:17:32 2002:

Boys have wants, girls have needs


#151 of 241 by oval on Sun Apr 7 00:31:57 2002:

'boys have penises, girls have vaginas'



#152 of 241 by jazz on Sun Apr 7 13:28:53 2002:

        Argh, that's not in the song.


#153 of 241 by brighn on Sun Apr 7 19:07:11 2002:

We weren't on the same song anyway, were we? Just the same group.
 
Oval's young. She's probably too young for Nitzer Ebb.


#154 of 241 by oval on Sun Apr 7 23:14:10 2002:

i know nitzer ebb dammit!!! (not well enough to know the lyrics though)
i think i'm the same age as jazz btw...



#155 of 241 by brighn on Mon Apr 8 04:51:40 2002:

Yeah, but Jazz is weird. =}
 
*ducks from oval*


#156 of 241 by oval on Mon Apr 8 15:31:46 2002:


quack.



#157 of 241 by jazz on Mon Apr 8 15:48:47 2002:

        Paul, far as I've seen the people you spend time with are weirder than
I could ever aspire to be.  Weird compared to what?


#158 of 241 by oval on Mon Apr 8 15:58:53 2002:

what is 'normal' anyway?



#159 of 241 by jazz on Mon Apr 8 16:56:40 2002:

        Apparently the frat boys who live next to me are "normal".


#160 of 241 by oval on Mon Apr 8 17:43:02 2002:

scary.



#161 of 241 by orinoco on Mon Apr 8 18:07:09 2002:

Yeah, but they're "normal" only with the quotation marks.  Some of us aim to
be normal without any punctuation.


#162 of 241 by jazz on Mon Apr 8 18:25:49 2002:

         Why?


#163 of 241 by brighn on Mon Apr 8 18:33:28 2002:

#157> I dunno, I was mostly teasing Oval.


#164 of 241 by phenix on Mon Apr 8 21:53:54 2002:

it's fun and easy?


#165 of 241 by oval on Mon Apr 8 23:42:04 2002:

teasing me? ;)



#166 of 241 by jazz on Tue Apr 9 00:54:51 2002:

        Uh oh ... don't get Paul started ... ;)


#167 of 241 by oval on Wed Apr 10 06:25:31 2002:

paul is a cunt tease anyway :P



#168 of 241 by brighn on Wed Apr 10 13:22:33 2002:

yeah, probably
=S


#169 of 241 by hotboy on Sat Apr 20 22:41:18 2002:

teasing can sometimes lead to better things........


#170 of 241 by jazz on Sun Apr 21 01:12:52 2002:

        Yes!  Like fistfights!


#171 of 241 by oval on Sun Apr 21 05:28:40 2002:

and BIG HAIR!



#172 of 241 by jazz on Mon Apr 22 01:28:34 2002:

        Hallelujah!

        Reminds me of the time when I was out celebrating my birthday at a
local Irish pub with me mum - they have fantastic smoked salmon - and she
made a comment about a man with closely-shaved red hair, saying that you
don't see that, that often.  And who should walk in then but another friend
of mine with closely-shaved red hair, and a ring through her nose.  Love it
when my friends provide a human punchline.


#173 of 241 by oval on Mon Apr 22 21:06:41 2002:

what red hair? or closely shaved red hair?



#174 of 241 by jazz on Wed Apr 24 21:49:31 2002:

        
        Closely-shaved red.


#175 of 241 by emblem on Sun May 19 15:53:50 2002:

i think poeples individual style, red hair, shaved or not, is fine. Peircings,
tatoos, whatever. Who cares how poeple express thewselves in public...poeple
are who they wanna be...ive never been one to poke fun at anybody.  Especially
thier sexuality.  I have an uncle thats gay and he told me that he wasnt gay
because he didnt find women attactive, but because he had different emotional
needs. He said that he did find women attractive, beauty wise and sexually
as well, but they didnt have what he needed emotionally.  I myself am not gay,
but it did help me understand what being gay is about.  I know that there are
some gay poeple out there that have very bad opinions about the other sex,
but that is there choice, but i dont make fun of them, i just dont think its
right to make fun of poeple because of who they are, red hair and piercing
or whatever.  I guess thats my opinion tho....

its been awhile since anyones been on this conf eh?


#176 of 241 by jazz on Sun May 19 18:05:57 2002:

        That's nice, but what I was making fun of in this case was a closeted
mind.


#177 of 241 by senna on Sun May 19 23:43:00 2002:

The "I understand" testimonial item?


#178 of 241 by dono on Mon Oct 7 01:28:41 2002:

exit


#179 of 241 by captin on Fri Oct 18 09:35:52 2002:

nkeeid photo's.  where where where????????? ;-)


#180 of 241 by jazz on Fri Oct 18 13:26:18 2002:

        ... someone didn't read the intro, did they?


#181 of 241 by ludaspit on Mon Oct 28 18:23:56 2002:

hi


#182 of 241 by phenix on Mon Oct 28 18:57:56 2002:

well, at least we know the answer to that question


#183 of 241 by gizlnort on Wed Dec 4 17:09:37 2002:

Howdy all, just peeking in to see the slow moving forum.



#184 of 241 by orinoco on Wed Dec 4 18:52:39 2002:

[insert "spurts of activity" pun here]


#185 of 241 by phenix on Wed Dec 4 19:06:13 2002:

it's more of spasms


#186 of 241 by jazz on Thu Dec 5 14:39:25 2002:

        Eww.


#187 of 241 by gizlnort on Thu Dec 5 17:57:01 2002:

Ah, but are they "happy spasms", that is the question.



#188 of 241 by gizlnort on Thu Dec 5 17:58:59 2002:

now we see if the system took my new name



#189 of 241 by jazz on Sat Dec 7 22:11:05 2002:

        Doesn't look that way (to the name bit).


#190 of 241 by otter on Sat Jan 11 21:49:09 2003:

Hello, folks!


#191 of 241 by phenix on Sun Jan 12 16:34:10 2003:

morning


#192 of 241 by vidar on Mon Jan 13 19:02:45 2003:

Hi.


#193 of 241 by gizlnort on Tue Jan 14 19:38:08 2003:

YEEEHAH!  Beats a regular hello


#194 of 241 by iitk on Mon Mar 3 14:36:29 2003:

Hi 
I thought that people talked dirty here,
which I now see is not true..
Why is this so..
I assume all of u would be interested in that..at
some point..
So why the fake decency that is prevailing here..?


#195 of 241 by jmsaul on Mon Mar 3 20:31:37 2003:

This is the public part of the conference.  If you want to talk dirty,
type "!stty 0" at the Ok: prompt.

I promise you you'll be encouraged!


#196 of 241 by jazz on Mon Mar 3 22:45:29 2003:

        Heh.


#197 of 241 by jmsaul on Sun Mar 9 19:03:22 2003:

I guess everyone's been trying it.  ;-)


#198 of 241 by gizlnort on Mon Mar 17 15:35:19 2003:

Cute, very cute.  Useful to know Joe too...thanks for letting me in on the
secret.

s.


#199 of 241 by jazz on Mon Mar 17 22:29:48 2003:

        I don't think he "let you in" on it ...


#200 of 241 by palesi on Sun Apr 20 01:06:27 2003:

women are strange


#201 of 241 by phenix on Mon Apr 21 00:06:44 2003:

but very nice


#202 of 241 by gizlnort on Wed Apr 30 14:36:21 2003:

Very very nice 99% of the time, the other 1%, add another very.


#203 of 241 by phenix on Wed Apr 30 16:48:48 2003:

actually women are inscrutable and evil.
i'm on to them
i know the game.
yes. yes....


#204 of 241 by jazz on Thu May 1 05:42:07 2003:

        Naw, they just *act* that way.  It's gotcha fooled, doesn't it?

        Actually, it depends, just like everyone else.  If you really need
nice, it's in hard supply.  If you're fine, everyone's nice.


#205 of 241 by phenix on Thu May 1 17:32:40 2003:

wow, kinda like pussy eha?


#206 of 241 by orinoco on Thu May 1 19:39:48 2003:

Hm.  Seems like when I need nice the most, it takes a whole lot of it to get
through my bitter cranky-ass shell.  I think _that's_ why it seems like it's
in such short supply.


#207 of 241 by jazz on Fri May 2 02:45:43 2003:

        Well, it's also like this.  If you're a person who makes other people
feel good, then a lot of people want to spend time around you, and you are
in high demand.  You can pick and choose who you want to spend time around
- those who also make you feel good, or those who don't.  Usually it's the
former.


#208 of 241 by vipg on Thu May 8 11:27:24 2003:

Hey NIce BBS. I am quite interested about sex talks, discussions and other
things too. Well, Sex comes more as excitement and problem to me as I am a
virgin boy and not having a girl friend :(. So sexy talks make me feel too
sexy and the company of girls makes me on the seventh heaven....

Think I am..
Think I am....
Think I am......
Think.....
A Sex Maniac


#209 of 241 by jazz on Thu May 8 20:29:28 2003:

        Wait, you'd need to HAVE sex before you can be a sex maniac.


#210 of 241 by phenix on Thu May 8 20:32:33 2003:

uh. what did he say?


#211 of 241 by michaela on Fri May 9 09:59:45 2003:

He's a virgin, so he gets excited by sex talk, as it interests him.  He also
loves the company of girls and wants to be a sex maniac.


#212 of 241 by jazz on Fri May 9 13:11:21 2003:

        Oh, I understood the post.

        I just have a different definition of 'sex maniac', though I usually
get all schmantzy and say "nymphomania".  Gotta love 'em, anyways, those
nymphomaniacs.


#213 of 241 by phenix on Fri May 9 16:29:51 2003:

heh. nymphomaniac virgin? sorry, i'll only buy that from isabelle hupert


#214 of 241 by jaklumen on Fri May 9 22:07:02 2003:

who's Isabelle Hupert?


#215 of 241 by vidar on Fri May 9 22:18:17 2003:

Well, I can't consider myself a virgin anymore, albiet the only sex 
I've had was a blowjob . . . and not from the gal I'm after currently.


#216 of 241 by jazz on Sat May 10 03:32:00 2003:

        Hrm, everyone seems to not be quite getting what other people are
talking about.


#217 of 241 by phenix on Sat May 10 03:57:57 2003:

it's from a movie called "amateur" by hal hartly.
watch it. it's wunderbar


#218 of 241 by jaklumen on Sat May 10 07:29:40 2003:

Is it an indie film?  Doesn't sound terribly familiar, and my gut says 
it's likely on the skanky side.  Is it?


#219 of 241 by michaela on Sat May 10 10:28:19 2003:

Jazz - I was talking to Greg.  Sorry about the ambiguity.


#220 of 241 by jazz on Sat May 10 20:25:07 2003:

        Accountancy.  Murder.  Amnesia.  Torture.  Ecstasy.  Understanding.
Redemption.

        And you bought it just for the cover picture of Isabelle Huppert
wearing PVC and sporting a drill ... :)


#221 of 241 by michaela on Sat May 10 23:14:49 2003:

I loved that movie.  :)


#222 of 241 by jazz on Sun May 11 14:06:05 2003:

        It has the funniest scene involving shooting a handgun at a person from
less then 6 feet.


#223 of 241 by jmsaul on Sun May 11 14:50:26 2003:

Is it funnier than "Oh man, I just shot Marvin in the face"?


#224 of 241 by phenix on Mon May 12 03:54:25 2003:

actually danny got me into it. 


#225 of 241 by jazz on Mon May 12 16:05:17 2003:

        Yes, it's MUCH funnier.  Even funnier than the scene in Fight Club.


#226 of 241 by jmsaul on Wed May 14 02:46:12 2003:

All right, what movie is this again?


#227 of 241 by jazz on Wed May 14 04:49:27 2003:

        Amateur, by Hal Hartley.


#228 of 241 by sjblonde on Sun Jun 1 10:39:37 2003:

Hi, Can some hunky Male show me around?



#229 of 241 by phenix on Sun Jun 1 17:42:37 2003:

<laugh>


#230 of 241 by jazz on Sun Jun 1 17:43:17 2003:

        Hahaha, I had some guy at Divine tell me that he would waive my cover
(not like he could) if I went in without a shirt.  How Club 54.


#231 of 241 by orinoco on Wed Jun 4 13:34:40 2003:

I guess you must be that hunky male that Simon's looking for, then.


#232 of 241 by hacktix on Sat Sep 27 07:25:08 2003:

well hello i go by NeonLightning and this is nice to find a organized yet not
anal alternate sexuality conf i'ma bisexual male who is a nerd that tends to
be called a goth(wtf is with that) and i'm not sure how often i'll remember
i'm signed up on here(bad A.D.D.) so if people want to catch me i'm a staff
member on irc.liquidvoltage.net and my nick is NeonLightning i'm not adverting
here just letting people know
my site is Http://neonbox.16bit.at that one was a ad :P
and it would be interesting to talk to you people excpecially if your in
canada pref ontario

well hope to talk again ttfn
,


#233 of 241 by momadow on Wed Nov 5 10:03:30 2003:

well well for the first time i am here ( at last ) i took me a lot of time
to co
me here and find some good people to talk to and say whatever i want.
whatever , i think i am the only one here from Africa , and that wont stop
me , on the contrary , this will make me try to respond more and more here.
so if anyone wants to talk , lets just pick a topic , and i will be more than
happy to participate.
Love you all , and till later.


#234 of 241 by boltwitz on Sat Feb 7 17:17:51 2004:

Are you black?!


#235 of 241 by philbong on Tue Apr 27 11:55:34 2004:

hello pips
w
exit
quit
quit
quit hi

quit at the start of a line


#236 of 241 by diregone on Mon Feb 19 10:47:38 2007:

i wonder how many girls actually use this....


#237 of 241 by mary on Mon Feb 19 12:37:27 2007:

Define "girls".


#238 of 241 by marcvh on Tue Feb 20 16:30:33 2007:

I think he means "girls who will have sex with him" in which case the
answer is almost certainly "none."


#239 of 241 by mary on Tue Feb 20 19:56:30 2007:

Define "sex". 

See?  Stranger things have happened.


#240 of 241 by suzie on Wed Feb 21 01:55:56 2007:

What's the "this" he's talking about, anyway?


#241 of 241 by phenix on Sat Mar 24 13:51:01 2007:

are we trying for a rule #34 violation?

Lots of women use grex, most of them are hot. I'm guessing 99% won't be
interested. but hey try the 1% and tip your server.


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