Grex Oldcoop Conference

Item 35: A request of aruba, for Grex. Thoughts, all?

Entered by other on Sun Nov 23 00:33:32 2003:

In order to facilitate smooth transitions between treasurers, I'd like to
make a rather specific request of aruba, our current treasurer.

This item is for discussion of the request, and sharing of thoughts relating
to it and its purpose.

To wit:  Not assuming that such a thing is not already extant, I'd like to
see the formulation of a document, in electronic format but presented as
straightforwardly as possible, which is essentially a calendar of essential
deadlines and suggested start times to enable timely compliance with all
financial and documentary regulations to which Grex is subject.

For example, this calendar would show both due dates and suggested starting
times for the preparation of annual tax-related forms, insurance premiums,
lease renewals, telecom and internet service contracts (to the extent
applicable), monthly bills including rent and electrical service -- referenced
by the date these bills arrive at the mailbox and the date they're due, etc.

it would be tremendously beneficial to both the treasurer, and the board in
evaluation of the performance of any particular treasurer, to have all this
information in a single, accessible document.

My own preference would be to have this in a list format, with sections headed
by month names, and individual entries with the date, the item description,
and text pointers to other references to the item by date. 
For example:

        January
01      Personal Property Tax due,      prepare beginning 01 December.
12-15   Electric bill expected,         due around 28 January


If the document is in html format, the references could even be hyperlinked,
both internally and to accompanying documents such as service contracts,
leases, submission instructions, etc.

I think it is in the best long-term interests of the organization to make
essential jobs as independent of the individuals who perform them as possible. 
Since the treasurer is primary administrative role within our organization, I
think it makes especially good sense to develop full and easy to use
documentation of the functions of the position.  Let me emphasize the "easy to
use" part.  Given the challenges of the position, the easier it can be made to
assume the position, the easier it will be to get and retain competent persons
in the position.

Mark, I'm sure you have most of this information already gathered in a way that
works for you, and I hope that this request does not present a significant
burden to you, but I imagine you'll have no difficulty understanding my
reasoning.
35 responses total.

#1 of 35 by other on Sun Nov 23 00:35:37 2003:

Sorry about the strange formatting, my window was wide and somehow hard breaks
got inserted...  :(


#2 of 35 by aruba on Sun Nov 23 15:23:52 2003:

This is a good idea, Eric.  Here's a file I made up a while ago, updated
with a few more dates.  It's not exactly what you asked for, but anyone
could put it into that form.

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Parts of the treasurer's job:

- Check mail in P.O. box on S. University a few times a week.
- Process any money received in the mail.
- Record any money received via Paypal, and transfer it to bank account.
  - Record all payments and ID information in the database.
  - Send email acknowledgement of all money received.  Include expiration
    date if the money is for membership.
  - Add new members to the /etc/groups file (add to voters if >= 3 months).
  - Thank new members and renewals in Agora.
  - Send handbooks to people who buy them and members who request them.
- Send renewal reminders to members (about once a week).  Maintain 
  cheerful attitude in the face of much stringing along.
- Remove overdue members from the rolls if they admit they're not going to
  renew, or if they are more than 2-3 weeks overdue and there has been no 
  response (the usual case).  Give more leeway to people who have been 
  members for longer, less to those who have only sent $6.
- Answer mail from people who want info about membership.  Usually, can
  just point them to member.html and memfaq.html.
- Follow coop and answer any questions people ask about finances.
- Print handbooks as necessary.

Monthly:

- Pay phone and ISP bills when they come in.  (Both arrive around the
  middle of the month, are due near the end of the month.)
- Pay the rent and electricity bill at end of month.
- Record phone bill in phone bill database. (Optional.)
- Balance the checkbook when the TCF bank statement comes.
- Come to board meetings and present most recent report.
- At end of month, transfer money from the Paypal account to our checking
  account.
- On last buiness day of month, deposit all checks received.
- Create and post treasurer's report in coop.  Ask Katie to link to Agora.
  Requires calling BoAA to find out how much interest we've earned.

Every 3 months:

- Enter the "Becoming a member" item in new Agora.

Yearly:

- (Jan) Change signers on our bank accounts, to reflect the new board.
- (Jan) Fill out and send in our sales tax license return (due at end
   of February).  This is easy since we don't collect sales tax.
- (Jan) Renew our P.O. Box (expiration February 2nd).
- (Jan) Figure out who has donated more than $75 in the past year, and 
  send mail asking if they want a receipt.  If so, print and send a paper 
  receipt.  If no response for a week, repeat mailing.
- (Jan) Pay personal property tax.  This is mostly automated, as long as 
  the inventory database is kept up to date.  The bulk of the work is 
  nagging STeve to assign prices to all our items, and then printing out 
  the attachments on the server, using the numbers from there to fill out 
  the forms, and writing a cover letter explaining that a lot of our stuff 
  doesn't fit into their boxes but is detailed in the attachments. (Due
  January 31st.)
- (Jan) Fill out IRS form 990, tax return for nonprofits.  Since Grex's
  annual income is under $25,000/year, we are not required to file this
  return.  But twice we have been asked for one anyway, when we applied
  for 501(c)3 status and when we applied for a charitable solicitation
  license.  The form is a big hassle, but it's a lot easier to do if it
  was just done the year before.  So this is optional, but I've been
  doing it anyway, just in case we get asked again.  Plus, it's a good
  way to put a cap on the previous year's finances.
- (Jan) Post a summary of the past year's finances in coop.
- (Feb) Renew grex.org (right now, paid through 2/27/2005).
- (Aug) Pay our insurance premium (due August 14th).
- (Sep) Send in Corporation Info Update form (due October 1st).
- (Dec) Renew cyberspace.org (due January 12th).
- (Dec) Try to get rid of as much stuff from the Pumpkin as possible, so
  we don't have to pay taxes on it in January.

During the auction:

- When a payment comes in, send mail to the donor, the buyer, and the 
  auctioneers, telling them the item may now be delivered.  Mark the item 
  as paid in the query database.
- Send reminders to people who haven't paid or haven't delivered their 
  items.


#3 of 35 by jp2 on Sun Nov 23 15:55:46 2003:

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#4 of 35 by other on Sun Nov 23 16:47:36 2003:

Wonderful!  Thanks!  

IIRC, our income from Michigan sources is below the threshold beyond 
which a Michigan tax return is required.


#5 of 35 by aruba on Sun Nov 23 17:01:49 2003:

That's right.  Since our income from Michigan sources is less than
$8000/year, we do not need to file an annual return with Lansing.  We
applied for and received that exemption.


#6 of 35 by jp2 on Sun Nov 23 18:21:27 2003:

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#7 of 35 by naftee on Mon Nov 24 01:42:11 2003:

re 2
>  - Add new members to the /etc/groups file (add to voters if >= 3 months).

bash-2.05$ ls /etc/groups
ls: /etc/groups: No such file or directory

aruba, why are you propogating false information?


#8 of 35 by gelinas on Mon Nov 24 01:54:12 2003:

Because he made a typographical error.  The file is /etc/group .


#9 of 35 by willcome on Mon Nov 24 04:33:22 2003:

I think the treasurer should do a better job that aruba's doing.  I call on
him to resign.


#10 of 35 by other on Mon Nov 24 06:00:36 2003:

And your call will get a whole lot more attention than it deserves, 
and a whole lot less than than anything that matters in the 
slightest.


#11 of 35 by aruba on Mon Nov 24 06:08:35 2003:

I fixed the typo in the master file, which is ~aruba/jobslist.txt.  THanks
for pointing it out, naftee.


#12 of 35 by other on Mon Nov 24 06:18:18 2003:

Mark, your composure in the face of raging idiocy is highly 
commendable.  You are truly a gentle soul.


#13 of 35 by mynxcat on Mon Nov 24 18:50:22 2003:

I agree. Another way to deal with the idiocy would be to ignore it.

But to Mark's credit, he  does give credit where it's due, no matter 
how annoying the proponent is.


#14 of 35 by aruba on Mon Nov 24 20:05:37 2003:

I had a math professor who used to say, when someone corrected something he
wrote on the board, that the great thing about mathematics is that there is
no point arguing when you're wrong.  I think that's true in lots of other
contexts too.


#15 of 35 by jp2 on Mon Nov 24 20:36:01 2003:

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#16 of 35 by aruba on Mon Nov 24 20:43:50 2003:

I can't think of anything on my list which will change when the new machine
comes up, except that I can be much cheerier when encouraging people to
become members.

One thing I didn't include but should have is the date our DSL contract
renews each year; I should look that up when I get home.  Mary has always
handled the lease renewals, so she'll have to enter the relevant dates for
that.  Out lease runs Jun 1st - May 31st.

Also, while I think of it, we need to renew our Certificate of Assumed
Name once every 6 years or so.  I just did it last year, so we're handled
for a while. 



#17 of 35 by other on Mon Nov 24 21:16:30 2003:

Great, those are exactly the sort of details I was specifically 
interested in.  I knew that the less frequent and more obscure those 
items were, the more important it would be to have them documented 
in one accessible place.  Thank you!


#18 of 35 by mary on Mon Nov 24 23:42:13 2003:

We need to let our landlord know, in writing, of our
intent to renew our lease, within 120 days of the
lease expiring.  So you could put down January 1-14
as the period in which the board should authorize
such an action, with the letter being due January 31st.

If I remember correctly we have one more year in
which to renew, then we'll have to negotiate a 
new contract.


#19 of 35 by naftee on Tue Nov 25 01:19:44 2003:

re 11 Thanks for fixing it, aruba, and thanks to gelinas for the initial
correction.


#20 of 35 by aruba on Tue Nov 25 02:19:04 2003:

Looks like our DSL contract runs from July 15th to July 14th.  It
automatically renews each year unless we tell them otherwise by June 15th.
(And they have to tell us by May 15th if they're going to raise the rate.)


#21 of 35 by aruba on Tue Nov 25 02:53:18 2003:

Our Certificate of Assumed Name for "Grex" is good through 12/31/2007.


#22 of 35 by tsty on Tue Jan 27 00:23:39 2004:

i think assumed names in wastenaw coutry are *5* year renewals, not 6.
  
but i may be wroing.


#23 of 35 by aruba on Tue Jan 27 03:38:14 2004:

It's a State thing, and you're right, it's for 5 years.  It was filed in
December 2002 and it's good through December 2007.


#24 of 35 by naftee on Tue Jan 27 16:02:38 2004:

Wasn't GreX supposed to drop the domain grex.org a while back?


#25 of 35 by other on Tue Jan 27 16:25:47 2004:

Yes, you are an idiot and a vandal.  What of it?

Oh...


#26 of 35 by naftee on Tue Jan 27 16:28:53 2004:

That is entirely not true.


#27 of 35 by scott on Tue Jan 27 16:41:17 2004:

Why would we drop grex.org, naftee?


#28 of 35 by other on Tue Jan 27 16:43:29 2004:

He wants us to grop grex.org?  Why are you even responding to that?


#29 of 35 by jp2 on Tue Jan 27 16:49:08 2004:

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#30 of 35 by gelinas on Tue Jan 27 17:08:26 2004:

naftee, I'm not aware of any action to drop the name "grex.org".  So far as
I know, we intend to keep it.


#31 of 35 by ryan on Tue Jan 27 18:25:22 2004:

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#32 of 35 by naftee on Tue Jan 27 18:51:25 2004:

hmm, I thought it was supposed to be dropped.  I didn't say I wanted it to
be though.

On a side note, has anyone noticed that ryan seems to be obsessed about
polytarp?


#33 of 35 by jp2 on Tue Jan 27 18:55:54 2004:

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#34 of 35 by naftee on Wed Jan 28 01:30:00 2004:

Just the way he wants it


#35 of 35 by jesuit on Wed May 17 02:14:24 2006:

TROGG IS DAVID BLAINE


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