Grex Oldcoop Conference

Item 336: i can make good design

Entered by indoguy on Wed Jun 14 04:32:01 2006:

i can make better design for this grex website.
i 'll do it for free if you dont mind.for my promotion.
i need a job here...
34 responses total.

#1 of 34 by slynne on Wed Jun 14 05:20:37 2006:

I dont doubt that our web site could use a redesign.But since we are a
volunteer organization, we have never hired anyone for that work. Am I
to take it that you are offering to do the site as a volunteer?


#2 of 34 by nharmon on Wed Jun 14 12:06:54 2006:

How about a Grex website design contest? Then the membership can vote
for the winner. It'll be strictly voluntary...with the prize being, say,
a free year's membership?


#3 of 34 by slynne on Wed Jun 14 16:03:28 2006:

I like the idea of a contest actually. It could be fun. 


#4 of 34 by tod on Wed Jun 14 19:52:54 2006:

Best spyware designer award goes to Ivan Davidovitch!


#5 of 34 by ric on Thu Jun 15 17:23:35 2006:

re 1 - slynne, quoted from #0 "i 'll do it for free"

sounds like a volunteer to me!


#6 of 34 by nharmon on Thu Jun 15 17:36:11 2006:

I'll participate in a design contest. Just be sure to clearly set out
the rules and specifications.


#7 of 34 by jep on Thu Jun 15 19:14:33 2006:

Grex has no paid staff members.  Resp:0 looks to me like the gentleman
is looking for a (paying) job and is offering to demonstrate his skills.


#8 of 34 by cross on Thu Jun 15 20:34:48 2006:

I think a contest is a good idea.  Just the HTML on grex's home pages is
woefully out of date.


#9 of 34 by ric on Mon Jun 26 14:59:32 2006:

re 7 - it looks to me like he's looking for a paying job, but not from Grex,
he wants to use Grex to demonstrate his skill in order to get a paying job
elsewhere.  I'm not sure what part of "I'll do it for free" confused people.


#10 of 34 by tod on Mon Jun 26 19:02:01 2006:

"It"


#11 of 34 by slynne on Fri Jun 30 01:00:51 2006:

I havent published the board meeting minutes yet but the board voted to
hold a web site design contest. I am in charge. I will be posting
details soon. 


#12 of 34 by nharmon on Fri Jun 30 03:18:33 2006:

Any word on granting a license to use the Grex logo on Wikipedia?


#13 of 34 by naftee on Fri Jun 30 12:51:27 2006:

unlucky


#14 of 34 by slynne on Fri Jun 30 13:20:09 2006:

resp:12 Oh shoot. I forgot to bring that up.


#15 of 34 by nharmon on Fri Jun 30 13:37:28 2006:

Its okay. Next time! :-)


#16 of 34 by scholar on Thu Jul 6 04:56:35 2006:

re. 12:  wikipedia will no longer use images that are specifically licensed
to it.  the image either has to be in the public domain or released under one
of a number of free licenses.

since this would mean pretty much anyone could use grex's logo for pretty much
anything they wanted, it's probably not a good idea.


#17 of 34 by nharmon on Thu Jul 6 12:50:28 2006:

Wikipedia allows images that are copyrighted if they are used in a way
that conforms to fair use. This includes logos of companies. 

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Logos

I just thought it would be polite to ask the Grex BoD first.


#18 of 34 by scholar on Thu Jul 6 17:08:11 2006:

"Generally, logos should be used only when the company and its logo are
reasonably familiar (or when the logo itself is of interest for design or
artistic reasons)", and so it fails the fair use test.


#19 of 34 by nharmon on Thu Jul 6 18:45:57 2006:

You don't think the Grex logo is reasonably familiar to those familiar
with Grex?


#20 of 34 by scholar on Fri Jul 7 02:42:08 2006:

Probably not to most of them, but it's talking about the general public, not
the Grex public.


#21 of 34 by nharmon on Fri Jul 7 12:14:38 2006:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:MCCClogo.gif

Is the logo of some small community college in Monroe, Michigan
reasonably familiar to the general public?


#22 of 34 by nharmon on Fri Jul 7 12:17:14 2006:

Anyway, I feel that Grex's logo would meet Wikipedia's guidelines. If I
am wrong, it most likely will get deleted.


#23 of 34 by slynne on Fri Jul 7 13:17:11 2006:

I imagine that grex's logo would meet Wikipedia's guidelines too


#24 of 34 by scholar on Fri Jul 7 16:42:54 2006:

Re. 21:  The image violates Wikipedia's policies because it contains a slogan
when a version without a slogan is also available.  However, note that
Wikipedia's image policies concerning fair use of institutions of higher
learning and corporations differ.


#25 of 34 by scholar on Fri Jul 7 16:48:20 2006:

In any case, the image is unlikely to be deleted, but unless Cyberspace Inc.
releases it to the public domain or under some sort of free license, it
definitely violates Wikipedia policy on fair-use.  But I won't do anything
nasty like go out of my way to post {{copyvio}} on it or nominate it for
deletion or whatever.  Instead, I'll give you a tip:  even though Wikipedia
generally recommends uploading images to Wikipedia Commons, they don't
actually accept fair-use images, and so the logo will stand less of a chance
of being deleted if you just post it on en.


#26 of 34 by naftee on Fri Jul 7 18:54:23 2006:

IF IT"S DELETED< YOU SHOULD UPLOAD A PICTURE OF YOUR PENIS><

I WOULD< BUT I"M BANNED FROM WIKIMEDIA COMMONS


#27 of 34 by scholar on Fri Jul 7 19:43:40 2006:

I fully intend to upload a picture of my penis.


#28 of 34 by tod on Fri Jul 7 20:16:08 2006:

4k


#29 of 34 by cross on Fri Jul 7 22:11:11 2006:

Regarding #27; What, all two inches?  Small jpeg.


#30 of 34 by scholar on Fri Jul 7 23:17:21 2006:

high rez.


#31 of 34 by naftee on Sat Jul 8 03:20:48 2006:

re 29 He'll upload erect shots.


#32 of 34 by cross on Sun Jul 9 23:30:24 2006:

Like I said; all two inches?


#33 of 34 by trig on Sat Jul 22 16:18:30 2006:

isn't it odd cross knows the size of scholar's penis?


#34 of 34 by cross on Sat Jul 22 21:37:07 2006:

So I was right!  How do you know, trig?


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