Grex Oldcoop Conference

Item 221: Todd Plesco Campaign Statement

Entered by tod on Fri Dec 3 18:02:49 2004:

You'd find me a very active, persistent, and experienced board member.
I am a constant participant in the conferences and in party on Grex. 
Experience tells me the board should be more active in finding ways to 
combat spam and loss of members.

I was treasurer for Arbornet. 
I would be glad to be treasurer for Grex -- wouldn't mind it a
bit. Paying bills and doing monthly balance sheets is nothing new to me.

I have been on the board of Arbornet as President and other positions.
I was responsible in the oversight and project management of moving
M-Net to colocation at WWNet, moving the Arbornet office out of the 
highpriced New Center, organizing brunch fundraisers, and doing the first 
ever snail mail fundseeking from mailing lists provided from outside 
sources. I even oversaw the rebuild/acquisition of the new M-Net 
hardware in 2000 after our system was badly damaged after a hacking 
incident. My background with hardware and software is extensive.

I've worked on Sun server hardware (I donated a Sun 3 server to Grex 
back in 1997).  I currently work around IBM and various OSes from AIX to 
Linux and FreeBSD.  Most of my software experience involves websites and 
scripting.

My experience in politics and nonprofits is very diverse.  I've 
served on the SecureWorld Expo 2004 Seattle Executive Steering Council, 
Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) Post boards, volunteered with
Veterans for Common Sense and Gulf War Veterans organizations, and am 
even a member of the Military Order of the Cootie (MOC) which is the 
honor degree bestowed upon the elite VFW members who have served as 
VFW leadership. 

Vote for me and I'll stick to an agenda to see the spam gets blocked, the 
new system comes up, and the membership improves.  I'll get things done.
38 responses total.

#1 of 38 by tod on Fri Dec 3 18:03:53 2004:

I have also changed the statement in the voting program to the above.
If you've already voted, feel free to review everyone's statements again
and give me another consideration. Thanks!


#2 of 38 by keesan on Sat Dec 4 02:21:36 2004:

Tod, how would you suggest increasing membership, apart from getting NextGrex
online and getting a spam filter going?  


#3 of 38 by acidx on Sat Dec 4 05:54:04 2004:

woll spam ever get blocked i mean why even say its possible its not no matter
what some asshole out there finds a way to keep it going and we all get fucked
we need to fight for something in the lines of realism
exit

exit
respond
pass


#4 of 38 by tod on Sat Dec 4 06:46:47 2004:

re #2
Thank you for the great question, Sindi.  I think a person seeks membership
because they feel compelled to contribute to something they want to belong
and be a part of.  While being a public access system on the Internet may
attract those actively seeking it, I think there needs to be some proactive
canvassing.  I also think there needs to be a dialogue to retain the status
quo with existing users.


#5 of 38 by keesan on Sat Dec 4 18:51:13 2004:

Can you be more detailed?


#6 of 38 by tod on Sat Dec 4 21:53:54 2004:

A quarterly newsletter in both electronic and paper format would be a good
way to show that Grex is active and to let people know what the latest
projects and initiatives are.  I also think it wouldn't hurt to get a snail
mail mailing list from a similar institution of known donors and send them
an introduction along with an invitation.  Editorials that mention Grex
wouldn't hurt...mazine, newspaper, trademag, or otherwise.


#7 of 38 by naftee on Sun Dec 5 05:25:30 2004:

I would like to thank tod for volunteering his time to GreX.


#8 of 38 by russ on Sun Dec 5 18:42:57 2004:

tod      Otis Spunkmeyer       sc        Dec  3 12:23 Seattle    866-867-5245

User     Started          Channel
tod      Dec  3 13:48:29  party (shelled to bbs)

At this time you've been monopolizing a login session for two days,
flouting Grex's policy on idle users.  Why should anyone vote for
a candidate who regards policy as something to be sneered at?


#9 of 38 by mfp on Sun Dec 5 20:42:23 2004:

Why shouldn't anyone vote for a candidate who likes Grex so much that he stays
awake for days at a time just to use it?!


#10 of 38 by naftee on Mon Dec 6 06:04:03 2004:

Not only that, but he is *actively* monitoring both party and bbs, effectively
having at-the-minute information of anything which is happening on GreX.  How
much can you say for your meager contribution, russ?


#11 of 38 by tod on Mon Dec 6 06:49:49 2004:

re #10
Yea, its actually pretty disturbing that I'm online participating.


#12 of 38 by remmers on Mon Dec 6 12:21:47 2004:

Re #6:  Some years back there was talk in Coop of putting out a Grex
newsletter.  It never happened.  The problem was not that people
thought it was a bad idea - it was lack of volunteers.  It's easy
to come up with ideas for nice things to do, much harder to find
people to do them.  Todd, would you be willing to set up the
newsletter and undertake the publicity efforts you describe, at
least for long enough to establish proof-of-concept?


#13 of 38 by tod on Mon Dec 6 17:39:44 2004:

re #12
Absolutely.  I currently run a newsletter for my VFW post.  There wouldn't
be too much in the way of duplicating the effort for Grex.


#14 of 38 by jep on Mon Dec 6 18:35:14 2004:

Todd, you ran for and were elected to the board of directors of 
Arbornet 3 previous times, but resigned before completing each of those 
terms.  How should a voter view this record with regard to Grex?

Currently, you are serving a term on the Board of Arbornet as a remote 
director, and are listed as the vice president.  The Board of Arbornet 
has never met during your current term, and so I don't know if you are 
really the vice president any more, but in the absence of the previous 
outgoing president, it would seem to me his duties fell to you.  Why 
didn't you perform, or at least attempt to perform, those duties?  Or 
if you did, what did you do and why didn't you succeed?  How can you be 
expected to serve on the Grex board better than you have for Arbornet 
(the parent organization of M-Net)?

How will you allocate your efforts when there is a conflict between 
what is required for Arbornet and Grex?  For example, if there are 
Board meetings for both on the same day, which will you prioritize 
first?

You have talked about initiatives for Arbornet, in election items, that 
you say you will do for Grex, but I haven't noticed that anything has 
happened.  (See www.arbornet.org, conf:elect03, item:4 for an 
example).  Why not?  Why should Grex voters have more confidence in you 
than you have shown you can handle for Arbornet?


#15 of 38 by mfp on Mon Dec 6 18:50:48 2004:

This from the person who was always complaining about how Grex and M-Net were
separate and never the two shall meet, but I guess that was just when it
helped him avoid answering questions about how he censored people on Grex.


#16 of 38 by mary on Mon Dec 6 19:24:06 2004:

I also have a question regarding your practice of coming through
at intervals, and erasing all of your (many, many) previous posts.
This is a great inconvenience to users who don't know how to simply
"fix" their participation lists.  Is this something you'll continue
to do if elected to the board?


#17 of 38 by tod on Mon Dec 6 19:47:27 2004:

re #14
John.  It takes a team to make a Board of Directors work.
The members of Grex are willing to hold their BoD accountable.
I'm eager to work with the Grex BoD under that pretense.  I've
not been afforded that luxury with Arbornet over the past year.

I've been involved with Arbornet for over 10 years now in different
capacities.  Arbornet has gone through MANY changes culturally,
virtually, and in its very tangible state.

I last ran for Arbornet in 2003.  We had regular meetings and seemed
to be progressive.  It was very enjoyable. 

First thing I did was get the annual filings in order with the State
of Michigan.  In the past year, M-Net turned stagnant and the BoD
has not answered email.  I have taken some initiatives
on my own time to bring to the table but there is no table to bring it to.
The few times I've addressed this in the M-Net policy conference and 
e-mail to the board, there has been a lack of serious tone in director
and membership responses.  The tone has almost been mocking and rude.
This is not a conducive environment for me.  I'm fairly
embarrassed to endorse M-Net in its current state.  
I assure you I will not be staying on the Arbornet BoD.

The resignations you speak of: The first resignation was due to
a corrupt ugly election in 1994 -- polygon and a few others can 
attest to that.  
The other 2 resignations were unhappily announced online -- 
without complaint from members.  I actually received fairly good
feedback and praise for my contributions upon the resignations.  
Its not as if I'd just disappeared or lost interest.  
The resignations were driven by personal priorities (the first was 
employment related and the second a divorce.)
I'm sure most can sympathize with those priorities.
(Keep in mind, this is all over a 10 year span with most of those years
being active and productive participation.)

I've stated my intentions and goals with Grex.  I'm a witting participant
in BBS and often in party.  I'm available.  I'm volunteering.
Give me a shot.

re #16
 I also have a question regarding your practice of coming through
 at intervals, and erasing all of your (many, many) previous posts.
Unfortunately, BBS reports scribbled responses as new responses.  I am not
a techie so I can't fix this problem.  If you want me to say that I will never
scribble a response again because I'm campaigning then it simply just isn't
going to happen.  I'm not going to change how I participate as a user, though,
I do apologize if my previous scribbles have caused pain and suffering.
(For the record, I have registered a complaint with the State of Washington
regarding an online stalker which prompted those scribbles.)


#18 of 38 by jep on Mon Dec 6 20:47:00 2004:

Todd, I have always felt that Arbornet needed you at the time you 
referred to (actually I think it was 1993).  And it needed polygon as 
well.  Linda Clippert and I hung in there but you didn't.  It was a 
long time ago, it was unquestionably a tough time, and you certainly 
weren't the only one who ran out of the burning building.  I don't 
think that should be a big issue now, over 10 years later.

However, *three* resignations needs some explanation.

So does your most recent term with no significant activity from you 
while serving on the Arbornet Board, in my opinion.  You have a 
prominent position and share a large amount of responsibility for what 
has happened during that term, wouldn't you say?

I think your record over time is pretty awful, though I agree there are 
some positive things you have done.  I would prefer to see some 
positive leadership from you as a Grex user, before deciding to ignore 
your past and present with Arbornet and giving you my vote for shot #5 
as an elected Board member.


#19 of 38 by albaugh on Mon Dec 6 20:50:05 2004:

This question goes to all candidates and grex in general:  Should some attempt
be made to contact those people who were members in the past but who are not
now, to determine why they are no longer members, and if certain things were
changed/done on grex, if they would return as members?  It seems reasonable
to me, but some might consider it "harassment" or "invasion of privacy", the
the PC brain damaged environment in which we live.


#20 of 38 by tod on Mon Dec 6 21:38:57 2004:

re #18
My experience in nonprofits is not limited to Arbornet.  Arbornet stinks.  I
would not recommend my worst enemy to waste their time there.
If you go back and re-read #0, then you'll see Arbornet is not the only
place I've been volunteering time to nonprofits.

My "record over time" with Arbornet spans 10 years.  Your biggest complaint
is that I bailed on a rigged election after a long dialogue with keats and 
polygon about making such a decision.  I think I did what any sane person
would have done.  If you're out to toot your own horn for jumping onto
an election for a completely empty board because Linda wouldn't resign
then knock yourself out.  I wasn't interested in joining in on collusion. 

Now, you would like to portray an accusation that I've been 
inactive in my recent term is also unfounded.  I was the first to talk to
Rex about moving the system to a2hosting.com on a rack server and we're
well on our way to doing that with ZERO operating expenses henceforth. 
Arbornet remains a 501(c)3 after narrowly escaping a dissolution which I
was able to get the State of Michigan to back Arbornet out of.  If
that is inactivity then I guess I can't do any better.  In regard to the
userbase and culture of Arbornet, I'm done. Finished. Finito. Ispravit.
I believe a board member has fiduciary responsibility to the membership of
whatever organization they are entrusted but once the public confidence
in said value is null and void then its academic wheel spinning.  I've
done what I can for Arbornet and it will be there for years to come but
I can't change the tide in the ascerbic atmosphere it encourages at this
point.  That will take a camp counselor, drill instructor, and hit squad
to make those problems go away any time soon.

John, feel free to talk about "ignore past & present" in regards to Arbornet
but I really fail to see where I've done so bad in light of what system
and culture we're talking about.


#21 of 38 by tod on Mon Dec 6 21:43:17 2004:

re #19
I think a blind survey would be harmless as a matter of privacy.  I would make
it a system wide survey, though.  The survey would address former members,
current members, and potential members..asking what values they have liked,
currently enjoy, or would like to see.


#22 of 38 by other on Mon Dec 6 21:45:03 2004:

19:  I think that if something like that was done, and done in a
respectful way (assuming nonresponses ARE responses and actively
avoiding multiple mailings to the same recipients), that it would not be
a problem, and might be useful.  I would not jump to implement
suggestions made as a result of that process, but I would certainly make
them fodder for discussion with the aim of making the system more
responsive to the needs of its users and supporters.  You have to keep
in mind that management by majority rule is not a terribly efficient
system, but it is not immune to improvement either.


#23 of 38 by russ on Tue Dec 7 01:47:22 2004:

Here are the results of "last -10 tod" from arbornet just a minute ago:

tod              ttyp9    65.110.50.10     Mon Dec  6 16:14 - 19:04  (02:49)
tod              ttypl    65.110.50.10     Mon Dec  6 12:45 - 15:15  (02:30)
tod              ftp      foxxy.triohost.  Sat Dec  4 09:47 - 09:48  (00:00)
tod              ttypj    65.110.50.10     Sat Dec  4 09:00 - 10:56  (01:55)
tod              ttypr    65.110.50.10     Fri Dec  3 14:29 - 18:18  (03:49)
tod              ttyp6    65.110.50.10     Fri Dec  3 12:05 - 13:27  (01:22)
tod              ttypa    65.110.50.10     Thu Dec  2 18:57 - 19:48  (00:50)
tod              ttyp7    65.110.50.10     Thu Dec  2 15:16 - 17:32  (02:16)
tod              ttyp7    65.110.50.10     Thu Dec  2 07:43 - 15:16  (07:32)
tod              ttypl    65.110.50.10     Wed Dec  1 12:48 - 20:50  (08:01)

wtmp begins Wed Dec  1 05:00:42 EST 2004

This does not look like the record of someone who has given up on the
userbase of Arbornet, and I have to ask whether Tod is being truthful.


#24 of 38 by mfp on Tue Dec 7 04:24:28 2004:

Stop being slutty, Russ.


#25 of 38 by jep on Tue Dec 7 04:31:35 2004:

Todd, I have referred to your record on Arbornet's board, which you 
mentioned prominently in resp:0, and I have speculated about what 
relevance it might have to expectations I could have for the Grex 
board.  I'm not here to speak of my own record there; it's not very 
important here.  But you brought your Arbornet record up; you're a 
candidate here; I think it is reasonable for me to question the parts 
of it which make me uncomfortable.  And also the parts which I think 
should have an impact on Grexers who are voting.

I have agreed you've done some good things for Arbornet.  I'll admit I 
am largely unfamiliar with many of those things, because I was not 
involved with them myself, but I appreciated them nonetheless.  I 
think there is a great deal you could offer to either Arbornet or Grex 
if you were motivated and committed.  I apologize that it will be 
taken personally by you, but I do have doubts about your commitment to 
do the things you say you could and will do.  Please feel free to take 
this comment as an invitation to explain why I should not have those 
doubts.

I haven't said anything about the culture of M-Net, or the culture of 
Grex.  If you want to go into your role on M-Net, and your role on 
Grex, then please feel free to do so.


#26 of 38 by naftee on Tue Dec 7 06:05:32 2004:

The last time someone tried to explain and help you out, jep, you brutally
censored them.  You should be thankful tod is putting out an arm and a leg
to talk to you these days.


#27 of 38 by jep on Tue Dec 7 14:30:39 2004:

I like Todd.  He is one of the kindest people I've met on Grex, and is 
genuinely interested in helping other people.  He's intelligent, and 
knowledgeable about a lot of different things.  Some of his ideas could 
benefit Grex a great deal.  I don't believe he'll follow through on 
them or keep up his commitment to Grex for very long, but that doesn't 
mean he's a bad person or that one shouldn't admire his many good 
qualities.

It's too bad that, in order to note any characteristic about a person 
which is not glowingly positive, that you can be perceived as hating 
them or as saying they are a worthless human being.  I think Todd is a 
great guy.  I just don't think he should win a Board seat.


#28 of 38 by other on Tue Dec 7 15:51:43 2004:

I think that a seat on the board might very well encourage Todd to do
more.  The board race is neither a popularity contest nor a reward for
past deeds, and the responsibilities of a general board member on Grex
are not terrible huge.  Why not take a chance?  What's the worst that
could result?


#29 of 38 by twenex on Tue Dec 7 18:22:46 2004:

Todd has already indicated that he thinks a seat on Grex's board is worth more
than a seat on Arbornet's. That should encourage him to contribute more to
Grex than he has to M-Net.


#30 of 38 by cross on Wed Dec 8 03:25:14 2004:

Regarding #27; Don't be hatin'.


#31 of 38 by russ on Wed Dec 8 03:30:44 2004:

To be an asset to Grex requires a willingness to both make policy and
abide by it, as well as an urge to seek the truth.  Todd's actions
(consistent over months) betray contempt for policy, and I see little
will to confront the truth here.


#32 of 38 by dpc on Wed Dec 8 14:47:53 2004:

Yes, I think it would be a good idea to contact past members and
ask how come they are no longer members.


#33 of 38 by naftee on Wed Dec 8 22:26:24 2004:

So is _that_ the real reason behind the ID policy?  Collection of information
for use as a harassment tool if one doesn't contribute money?


#34 of 38 by albaugh on Wed Dec 8 23:58:45 2004:

Your stupidity is astounding.


#35 of 38 by naftee on Thu Dec 9 01:22:41 2004:

Your tactics for getting me to contribute money so you can harass me are
pathetic.


#36 of 38 by mfp on Thu Dec 9 03:22:45 2004:

Don't let them get you down.


#37 of 38 by naftee on Thu Dec 9 04:41:15 2004:

Follow the eternal optimist!


#38 of 38 by jesuit on Wed May 17 02:15:20 2006:

TROGG IS DAVID BLAINE


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