Grex Oldcoop Conference

Item 208: Demands are met.

Entered by mfp on Fri Oct 22 20:39:38 2004:

I demand a NeXtGreX beta account for myself and anyone else who wants one.
37 responses total.
#1 of 37 by naftee on Fri Oct 22 21:29:01 2004:

I want one, please.

#2 of 37 by janc on Sat Oct 23 03:21:18 2004:

Well, if you are going to demand things, I'd suggest demanding a beach-side
cabana on a south seas island populated by charming people who love you and
only you.

I mean, if you have a general sense of all encompassing entitlement, then why
bother with nextGrex?

Or, if your sense of entitlement is more specific, you might provide us
with the reasons why you feel entitled to a beta account on NextGrex.

#3 of 37 by mfp on Sat Oct 23 03:58:28 2004:

I want to have a NeXtGreX account!  I don't see why anymore raeson would be
needed.

#4 of 37 by marcvh on Sat Oct 23 04:07:27 2004:

You're like one of the retarded kidnappers in "The Big Lebowski."  You
seem to have forgotten that you have to have hostages before you can
start making demands.

#5 of 37 by cross on Sat Oct 23 04:13:28 2004:

Give me the account, Wolter!
Yeah!  Give us the account, Wolter!

#6 of 37 by tod on Sat Oct 23 05:24:51 2004:

I want world peace..oh yea, and a Winnebago!

#7 of 37 by naftee on Sun Oct 24 05:57:43 2004:

r 2
Hey man, I said please.

#8 of 37 by mfp on Sun Oct 24 06:36:37 2004:

That said, I don't see why any user who wants a NeXtGreX account can't have
one.

I specifically deserve one because I intend to help test it out and see all
sorts of neat things and all that sort of stuff, but I'm sure equally vague
and profoundly convincing artguments could found supporting any user's bid
to get a GreXedNex account.

#9 of 37 by janc on Sun Oct 24 15:18:01 2004:

No other users is bidding to get a GreXedNex account.  Hmmm...but 
speaking of bidding, cash might work.

#10 of 37 by naftee on Sun Oct 24 18:17:34 2004:

Consider you NOT having to pay us for NextGreX testing our cash payment.

Unless you require a deposit.

#11 of 37 by naftee on Sun Oct 24 18:18:37 2004:

THAT being said, it's either test NextGreX BEFORE it comes available, or AFTER
it is commonly available; which would be more embarassing for the bug
traquers.

#12 of 37 by mfp on Sun Oct 24 18:40:45 2004:

Re. 9: Jan, when I heard about the move to NeXtGreX, I was hopeful.  Not about
the new technology.  Oh sure, I was excited about FrontTalk and OpenBSD and
all that.  But that's not what I was hopeful about.  I was hopeful that with
new technology would come a new culture.  One in which the habits of the past
-- including GreX's famous elitism -- would be left behind.  You, Jan,
however, have ruined any chance of that before NeXtGreX even opened.  At least
with the first GreX you waited a while.

#13 of 37 by albaugh on Sun Oct 24 21:19:22 2004:

mfp, now that your delusions of NextGrex have been dashed, I think you should
leave all forms of grex and never return.

#14 of 37 by naftee on Sun Oct 24 23:06:48 2004:

That attitude, albaugh is why you are both unlucky and poor.

#15 of 37 by janc on Mon Oct 25 00:45:40 2004:

Read this closely:  http://www.plausiblydeniable.com/opinion/gsf.html

You have a sad tendancy to insist on Geek Social Fallacy #1.

The idea that moving to new hardware would cause me to forget everything I
know about you is so bizarre it'd probably only rank as Geek Social Fallacy
#362.

In the real world, getting treated with respect has something to do with
treating other people with respect.  You have a ways to go.

#16 of 37 by mfp on Mon Oct 25 01:53:49 2004:

It's okay, Jan.  I love you.

#17 of 37 by janc on Mon Oct 25 03:51:06 2004:

Sure.  I'm immeasurably fond of you too.  It's just the way you act that
ticks me off sometimes.

#18 of 37 by janc on Mon Oct 25 03:51:41 2004:

Not to send mixed messages or anything.

#19 of 37 by naftee on Mon Oct 25 05:23:57 2004:

What's mixed about your messages, janc, is that when I politely ask you for
the URL for NextGreX, you direct me to the UNIXpapA site that you own; BUT
just recently you brazenly announce the URL for grease.cyberspace.org, without
regards to human liability this may purport?!  Really, you're becoming more
and more like your wife.

#20 of 37 by mfp on Mon Oct 25 05:52:49 2004:

I have a theory that recently Jan has BEEN his wife.

#21 of 37 by naftee on Mon Oct 25 06:03:47 2004:

Did you dream it?

#22 of 37 by mfp on Mon Oct 25 06:46:21 2004:

Point.

(I've never dreamed of Jan or Valerie.)

#23 of 37 by janc on Mon Oct 25 14:34:28 2004:

Oops.  Thanks for the bug report.  The grease.cyberspace.org URL was
supposed to be password protected until the system was ready for public
use, but I forgot to "AllowOverride AuthConfig" in /var/www/conf/
before.  Anyway, it's working right now.  I wasn't giving out the URL
because it would be rather pointless to give out a URL to a page you
can't access.

#24 of 37 by albaugh on Mon Oct 25 17:31:42 2004:

(Not that that would have prevented them from responding with Point.)

#25 of 37 by naftee on Mon Oct 25 17:32:54 2004:

POINTless, and yet you've already seen evidence of how efficient we are at
tracking and squashing bugs.   You lose, janc.  Pay up.  Hand over the
accounts.

#26 of 37 by mfp on Mon Oct 25 17:58:18 2004:

Point.

#27 of 37 by janc on Mon Oct 25 18:35:04 2004:

All in due time.

#28 of 37 by mfp on Mon Oct 25 19:47:39 2004:

Point.

#29 of 37 by naftee on Mon Oct 25 20:01:16 2004:

soup@m-net-bash-2.05a$ ft grease:
FrontTalk 0.3.2
Copyright 2001, Jan Wolter


Connect to 'grease' failed.
Unknown system 'grease'.


Not only does grease not work, fronttalk on m-net is hopelessly out of date
 :(

#30 of 37 by mfp on Mon Oct 25 20:11:15 2004:

Point.

#31 of 37 by richard on Tue Oct 26 06:03:36 2004:

maybe there's room for negotiation here.  what if he signs a written
agreement, a legal document, saying that if he is given a Next Grex login,
ahead of everyone else, for "beta testing", that he agrees to no longer
spam or otherwise annoy staff.  He agrees to no longer ever post entire
novels or works into Agora.  He agrees to no longer post any new items
whatsoever for a period of six months.  He can respond in existing items
but he won't create any new ones of his own.  He will promise, in writing,
to behave himself and he agrees that if staff ever takes away another one
of his logins, he will never ask for another one.

basically, he gets double secret probation in exchange for his precious
next grex login.

#32 of 37 by mfp on Tue Oct 26 14:12:24 2004:

Point.

#33 of 37 by tod on Sat Oct 30 20:29:39 2004:

Sign me up

#34 of 37 by mfp on Sat Oct 30 21:27:46 2004:

If someone writes the text of an agreement to not cause Cyberspace Inc.
trouble and I found the text acceptable, I would be more than happy to sign
it.

#35 of 37 by mfp on Sat Oct 30 21:28:41 2004:

I won't sign any agreement that impiously changes verb tenses improperly.

#36 of 37 by naftee on Mon Nov 1 07:20:31 2004:

Imperiously.

#37 of 37 by jesuit on Wed May 17 02:15:18 2006:

TROGG IS DAVID BLAINE

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