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Item 78: Grammy Awards: 2002 ceremony

Entered by krj on Thu Feb 28 17:53:56 2002:

I don't have much to mention, but maybe a few others do.
The big winners were Alicia Keys, U2, and the soundtrack album
O BROTHER WHERE ART THOU? which took the "Album of the Year" award.
19 responses total.
#1 of 19 by krj on Thu Feb 28 17:54:38 2002:

   ((( Winter Agora 218  <--->  Music 78 )))

#2 of 19 by slynne on Thu Feb 28 17:57:10 2002:

Lucinda Williams won a grammy which made me happy because I really like 
her.

#3 of 19 by mcnally on Thu Feb 28 18:52:18 2002:

  I like Lucinda, but I'm generally slightly embarrassed when a musician
  I like is selected for a Grammy..

  Who's Alicia Keys?

#4 of 19 by edina on Thu Feb 28 19:01:59 2002:

The newest soul flavor of the month.

#5 of 19 by senna on Fri Mar 1 00:20:37 2002:

Tool won for best Metal Performance, for which I am thankful.  The other
candidates are just noise.  I listen to noise, too, but Tool's music has
splendid quality that would win numerous mainstream awards if not for the
rabid anti-Metal prejudice of contemporary music awards shows. ;)

And "Walk On" really is quite good...

#6 of 19 by brighn on Fri Mar 1 04:03:53 2002:

I saw that, too. Tool's second grammy in as many albums, for that category
(Aenema also won).

#7 of 19 by jazz on Fri Mar 1 05:57:51 2002:

        Tool's considered metal?  Eek.

#8 of 19 by brighn on Fri Mar 1 06:07:23 2002:

"Opiate" is pure metal. They've gotten more "artistic" since then, but so has
Dream Theater (for instance). All the same, I'd say Tool is metal for want
of a better umbrella term.

#9 of 19 by jazz on Fri Mar 1 06:16:01 2002:

        I always thought of them as aggro, but that's a specialized term. 
Like Ministry.  But maybe that's because I want to include all of it under
the umbrella of industrial music.  It does have the characteristics, and it's
definitely an identifiable part of the industrial culture movement, in the
larger sense, though.

#10 of 19 by edina on Fri Mar 1 14:17:33 2002:

It's really all about They Might Be Giants winning a grammy.

#11 of 19 by brighn on Fri Mar 1 15:04:19 2002:

#9> Meanwhile, I think of Aggro as Industrial-Metal fusion. A review of
"Lateralus" also pointed out that "Fleas and Ticks" ("Hope this is what you
wanted/hope this is what you had in mind/Because this is what you're getting")
is about as straight-up a heavy metal song as you're likely to hear Tool play
(of their own music, that is).
 
"Schism," meanwhile, is nearly unrecognizable as metal, which is ironic that
it's the one that got the Grammy for that category.

#12 of 19 by senna on Sat Mar 2 18:42:50 2002:

Ticks and Fleas, actually.  The definitions of metal are rather muddled,
particularly if you want to call Opiate pure metal. :)  It's not post-Nirvana
alternative, though, I'm rather sure of it.  I think it's safe to call Tool
a Metal band for Grammy purposes.  

Keep in mind, though, the history of the award.  Jethro Tull won it in favor
of Metallica's "One," Soundgarden has a metal grammy for Spoonman, and Nine
Inch Nails earned a Grammy for Happiness in Slavery (beating Metallica's For
Whom the Bell Tolls) several years after it was released, and roughly eight
after For Whom the Bell Tolls was initially recorded.

#13 of 19 by mcnally on Sat Mar 2 20:38:59 2002:

  It is, after all, a Grammy.

  Most of the time they get awarded to stuff that I wouldn't necessarily
  concede was music..

#14 of 19 by jazz on Sat Mar 2 22:38:03 2002:

        NiN is *definitely* not metal.

#15 of 19 by senna on Sun Mar 3 08:56:32 2002:

Although Broken certainly could be mistaken for it.

#16 of 19 by oval on Mon Mar 4 08:04:39 2002:

fuck the grammys

#17 of 19 by tpryan on Tue Mar 5 01:18:05 2002:

        Where'nt the Grummpy's also given out recently?

#18 of 19 by oval on Tue Mar 5 21:54:07 2002:

<grin>

#19 of 19 by teapot on Wed Mar 6 06:40:25 2002:

Mr Jennifer lost again.

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