Grex Music3 Conference

Item 57: Musical Obituaries

Entered by krj on Sun Nov 25 21:22:49 2001:

Continued from item 63 in the old music conference (item:music2,63)
106 responses total.

#1 of 106 by krj on Sun Nov 25 21:25:13 2001:

Today's news reports the death of Norman Granz, 83.  Granz' most important
work was the development of the Verve jazz label, which made many of the 
key recordings of Count Basie and Ella Fitzgerald.  After he sold Verve
to a conglomerate, in the 1970s or so he started the Pablo label, which 
was still active when I got into jazz.  Pablo had lots of late small-group
recordings with Basie, and Duke Ellington, and still more 
Ella Fitzgerald.


#2 of 106 by mcnally on Sun Nov 25 22:00:39 2001:

  I'm not a big jazz fan, but Verve seems to have been quite an
  important label during its heyday..


#3 of 106 by krj on Fri Nov 30 16:58:19 2001:

By now everyone who has looked at a news web site probably has 
learned that George Harrison is dead.  (The inner grump says:
so much for this summer's vigorous denials of how sick Harrison was...)
 
I dug out the chintzy BEST OF GEORGE HARRISON cd that Capitol/EMI put
out some years ago: seven of his Beatles songs, and just six songs 
from his early solo career.  So we had a little memorial listening party
on the drive to work this morning.  That compilation lacks my 
favorite Harrison Beatles song, a single B-side called "Old Brown 
Shoe" which is on the PAST MASTERS v.2 set.  I also need to dig out
the Travelling Wilburys discs.

Harrison's fall from commercial favor is kind of surprising; 
IIRC, several of his solo albums were never released on CD and
most seem currently out of print.  (I'll have to dust off the 
turntable if I want to hear "33 1/3" which was highly regarded 
among my friends when it was released.)  Maybe Capitol can put 
together a nice tombstone set, a 2-cd compilation including *all*
of Harrison's Beatles recordings, and a more generous selection
of his solo work including the CLOUD NINE singles.


#4 of 106 by bruin on Fri Nov 30 19:48:31 2001:

For more discussion and rememberance of George Harrison, please go to 
the Music Conference, item 59.


#5 of 106 by richard on Sat Dec 1 04:05:23 2001:

Of course George Harrison's best friend was fellow guitar god Eric Clapton,
and there is the famous story how how they were both in love with the same
woman.  She married Harrison.  Clapton went on a drug binge and wrote 
a song about his heartbreak over losing her, that of course being "LAYLA"


#6 of 106 by tpryan on Sat Dec 1 15:57:00 2001:

        Harrison knew and married Patty Boyd before both meet Clapton.
With Olivia, I think Harrison got the best of deal of Patty being 
stolen from him.


#7 of 106 by krj on Tue Dec 18 03:10:35 2001:

The Guardian reports the death of Stuart Anderson, the (former?)
leader of the band Big Country.  He was found dead in a hotel in 
Hawaii.  Age, 43.
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,620182,00.html

and that leads to a number of other links.


#8 of 106 by mcnally on Tue Dec 18 06:39:17 2001:

  Under the circumstances, I'd say it's definitely safe to remove
  the question mark following the word "former."


#9 of 106 by anderyn on Tue Dec 18 19:44:20 2001:

Damn.


#10 of 106 by orinoco on Wed Dec 19 08:55:56 2001:

Re #8: Well, there's former and then there's even formerer.


#11 of 106 by krj on Wed Dec 19 18:43:00 2001:

Usenet newsgroup rec.music.celtic carries a notice of the death 
of Tony Cuffe, who was the leader of the fine 70s-80s Scottish 
folk group Ossian.  Death from cancer.  I saw Ossian live once
in the early 1980s, they were quite impressive.
 
----
 
resp:7 :: argh, his name was Stuart Adamson, not Anderson.


#12 of 106 by anderyn on Thu Dec 20 12:35:50 2001:

Damn. Damn. Damn. Tony Cuffe too? I always loved Ossian. 


#13 of 106 by cyklone on Thu Dec 20 13:32:23 2001:

Yesterday I saw an obit for the singer in Big Country. Can't remember his
name, though.



#14 of 106 by micklpkl on Thu Feb 14 02:54:00 2002:

I was just driving back home from downtown, listening to KGSR, and heard that
Waylon Jennings died this afternoon. I haven't searched yet to get more
details, but I believe the cause was complications from diabetes. He was in
his mid-60s. There will be a tribute tonight on KGSR, in the Eleventh Hour
(CST), in case anyone's interested. http://www.kgsr.com


#15 of 106 by goose on Mon Apr 22 04:30:50 2002:

Layne Staley, 34, singer of Seattle rock band Alice In Chains was found dead
in his house late last week.  


#16 of 106 by mcnally on Mon Apr 22 05:58:21 2002:

  Have they positively identified the body as Staley?  Initial reports here
  in Seattle were quite tentative -- they just said that a body had been
  found in his house in the U District and that it was believed to be Staley.


#17 of 106 by dbratman on Mon Apr 22 20:52:12 2002:

Quotes from Staley about the tragedy of Kurt Cobain's death were hauled 
out and were effectively ironic.


#18 of 106 by katie on Sun Jul 21 05:15:53 2002:

Dave Carter of Dave Carter and Tracy Grammer died yesterday at age 40.
Heart attack.  (Does anyone know if Dave and Tracy are husband and wife?)


#19 of 106 by anderyn on Sun Jul 21 14:08:20 2002:

Damn. And I've missed them every time they were at the Ark. They   were a
really good duo, and it's really sad that he died so young.


#20 of 106 by krj on Sun Jul 21 16:21:05 2002:

Wow, that's a shock.  They were just starting to peek in along the edge
of my awareness. 
 
NPR and the New York Times ran substantial obituaries on Alan Lomax, 
who died this week at 87.   Alan Lomax was a folksong collector and
promoter of folk music, very important in the history of American music.


#21 of 106 by krj on Fri Sep 13 05:30:43 2002:

He's not dead yet, but Wired and Rolling Stone report that 
Warren Zevon has been diagnosed with untreatable lung cancer.


#22 of 106 by mcnally on Fri Sep 13 13:20:56 2002:

  Bummer.  <must resist the urge to make jokes about needing a
  "Miracle of Science" or about poor, poor, pitiful he.  There's
  not much funny about lung cancer.>


#23 of 106 by krj on Fri Sep 13 20:48:42 2002:

Zevon's comment was that it would be a bummer if he didn't last 
long enough to see the next James Bond film.
(which is due in November or December.)   The stories say he is 
continuing to work on recording and on spending time with his kids.


#24 of 106 by mcnally on Sat Sep 14 02:02:37 2002:

   oops..  now that I re-read my response, I think "Miracle of Science"
   was a Marshall Crenshaw album, not Warren Zevon.  I don't know why I
   sometimes confuse those two..  I'll have to remember to listen to
   the "Excitable Boy" album when I get home..:


#25 of 106 by dbratman on Wed Sep 25 16:34:11 2002:

I'm sorry that this Warren Zevon guy is terminally ill, but I wonder 
why I've never heard of him before, if he's as ubiquitous a cultural 
icon for the post-60s generation as people are now saying.

I've certainly seen his song titles used as catchphrases, but up until 
last week I never knew those were song titles at all, let alone whose; 
and somehow his name never came up.

As someone whose friends introduced him to Talking Heads back when they 
were still an obscure NYC art band (and this was apparently right 
around when Zevon was making his big impact), I didn't think I was that 
culturally obtuse.


#26 of 106 by mcnally on Wed Sep 25 17:54:03 2002:

  "ubiquitous cultural icon for the post-60s generation" is definitely
  stretching it a bit, but he did have a successful career and a dedicated
  following, despite the fact that his starkly cynical songs often weren't
  very radio-friendly.

  It's hard to believe you didn't at least hear *some* of his work
  ("Werewolves of London", anyone?) without knowing whose it was, and likely,
  too, that you often heard his songs covered by other performers without
  knowing they were his (e.g. Linda Ronstadt's cover of "Poor, Poor,
  Pitiful Me")


#27 of 106 by anderyn on Wed Sep 25 18:01:45 2002:

The only reason I ever heard Warren Zevon was because of my gaming group.
(They also introduced me to Blue Oyster Cult...) Of course, once I did hear
him, I became a fan, but I don't think he was ubiquitous unless you happened
to be in circles that had a reason to have heard of him.


#28 of 106 by other on Wed Sep 25 20:50:39 2002:

"Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner"

"Lawyers, Guns and Money"

"The Envoy"


#29 of 106 by dbratman on Thu Sep 26 22:07:27 2002:

resp:27 - Twila, it turns out I -am- in circles that had a reason to 
have heard of Zevon.  It's friends of mine who are mourning his 
illness, and they're citing listening to him in the days when I knew 
them best, and was, willy-nilly, listening to what they listened to.

Yet I don't think I heard his songs, because in those contexts I knew 
who I was listening to.

And I know further that he was a cultural icon for these folks, because 
I was hearing and reading frequently in those days phrases - like "I'll 
sleep when I'm dead" and "Send lawyers, guns, and money" - that I now 
discover are Zevon song titles.  Yet up until last week I never knew 
they were song titles at all, let alone whose.

resp:26 - Mike, I believe I may have heard "Werewolves of London".  Was 
that a song whose chorus consisted of, or contained, a howl followed by 
the title phrase, the whole then repeated?  I may well have heard some 
of the music, but I never heard nor read the name.


#30 of 106 by mcnally on Thu Sep 26 23:13:06 2002:

  Yes, pretty much..

    " I met a werewolf with a Chinese menu in his hand
      Walking through the streets of Soho in the rain.
      He was looking for a place called Lee Ho Phuk's   [sp?]
      Gonna get a big dish of beef chow mein.

      Aaaahhooooohh!  Werewolves of London..  Aaaahhhooooohh! "

  I think my favorite Zevon song is "Poor, Poor, Pitiful Me."
  It's typical of his cynicism and humorous word-play and a
  fun up-tempo number..

    " I met a girl in West Hollywood,
      ah, but I ain't namin' names.
      She really worked me over good,
      she was just like Jesse James.

      She really worked me over good,
      she was a credit to her gender.
      She put me through some changes, Lord,
      sort of like a Waring blender. "

  Perhaps Zevon was overshadowed in his fame by other songwriters
  even more cynical and dark.  I know I enjoy his music but I don't
  hold him in the same esteem as Elvis Costello or Richard Thompson.
  I think in some ways I sort of see him as Elvis-Costello Lite,
  but that's definitely not being fair to Zevon.


#31 of 106 by orinoco on Fri Sep 27 14:54:11 2002:

Hell, I say "I'll sleep when I'm dead" all the time, and I haven't heard any
Zevon past "Werewolves of London" in my life.

Well, okay, I used to say it all the time.  My appreciation for sleep has gone
up in the past few years.


#32 of 106 by dbratman on Fri Sep 27 22:39:39 2002:

Judging by the tenor of the comments I've seen about Zevon in the 
weblogs of his fans, if you wrote "I enjoy his music but I don't hold 
him in the same esteem as Elvis Costello or Richard Thompson" there, 
they might stampede you.

OTOH, if it were Richard Thompson who was terminally ill, they'd 
probably be grieving even more.  Those people talked in those days (and 
still do today) about Richard Thompson the way they now claim they 
talked about Warren Zevon.  (Elvis Costello, no, but I certainly heard 
of him.  I have never been able to take seriously anyone who would 
voluntarily adopt the name Elvis, so I can't be too objective here.)


#33 of 106 by cyklone on Fri Sep 27 22:41:29 2002:

I'm not sure it was entirely voluntary. I think his manager came up with it.


#34 of 106 by krj on Wed Oct 30 05:41:46 2002:

Warren Zevon is still not dead; in fact, he must be feeling pretty 
good, he's been announced as David Letterman's guest for Wednesday
night.   11:30 pm Eastern time on CBS, channel 62/cable 14 in 
Ann Arbor.


#35 of 106 by dbratman on Wed Oct 30 17:20:43 2002:

Warren Zevon's ghost is haunting / Cable Channel 14 ...


#36 of 106 by scott on Tue Nov 5 23:08:47 2002:

Lonnie Donnegan died Sunday at the age of 71.

He'd just be a very minor footnote in music, except that the "skiffle" music
craze he started in 1960's England inspired a lot of kids (including those
who later formed The Beatles and The Who) to start playing.


#37 of 106 by krj on Mon Nov 11 16:07:45 2002:

Skiffle also played a large role in the 1960s British folk revival.


#38 of 106 by bruin on Mon Dec 16 22:09:32 2002:

IWLTA with great sadness the passing of Zal Yanovsky, who was an 
original member of the 1960's group The Lovin'Spoonful.  He left the 
Spoonful under less than friendly terms with the group, especially 
frontman John Sebastian.  More recently, he owned a restaurant in 
Kingston, Ontario, Canada.

"Zally" died of an apparent heart attack on December 13.  He would have 
turned 58 later this week.


#39 of 106 by remmers on Tue Dec 17 15:15:36 2002:

Sad news indeed.  The Lovin' Spoonful is one of my favorite rock groups
from the 60s; I still have some of their LPs that I acquired back then.
I always thought Zal was a great contributor to the group and was sorry
when he split.


#40 of 106 by jaklumen on Mon Jan 13 05:35:56 2003:

I *can't* believe someone didn't get this first!

Maurice Gibb, bassist and keyboardist of the Bee Gees, died at 53 last 
Sunday of cardiac arrest before undergoing surgery for a blocked 
intestine.

One article on the story can be found at:
http://entertainment.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=111793

Sad.  I really liked the Bee Gees, and thought they very talented and 
not just a disco band, although a lot of their hits were during the 
disco era.


#41 of 106 by dbratman on Sat Jan 18 00:05:48 2003:

Are they the guys who sang that once ubiquitous song that went "ah, ah, 
ah, ah, stayin' alive, stayin' alive"?

If so, I will refrain from commenting on their talent only out of 
respect for the dead.


#42 of 106 by krj on Sun Jan 26 22:43:17 2003:

He's Still Not Dead Department:  Jon Pareles has a lengthy article
on Warren Zevon and his final months of creativity in Sunday's 
New York Times.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/26/magazine/26ZEVON.html?8hpib


#43 of 106 by jaklumen on Sun Feb 2 11:08:58 2003:

resp:41 Yes, but really, I couldn't disagree with you more vehemently, 
if only because you're probably thinking of their disco hits alone.
I think Barry Gibb, who is still alive, is quite a talented 
songwriter.  The BeeGees may not be to your taste, but I think he 
knows how to write a catchy hook that's easy to sing along to.
"Grease," written for the movie version of the musical of the same 
name and performed by Frankie Van..ack, I forget the last name.. is 
one of my favorite Barry Gibb tunes.


#44 of 106 by mcnally on Sun Feb 2 12:49:35 2003:

  I've always appreciated the Bee Gees less for their music and more for
  their acting career, which included the phenomenally misguided film
  "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band."  Despite the fact that it's
  an awful film with the Bee Gees acting the parts of the band and playing
  their own unique interpretations on a number of Beatles classics, 
  I have a mysterious soft spot for it and can't resist watching it on the
  increasingly infrequent occasions when I come across it on late-night TV.

  All hail FVB!


#45 of 106 by scott on Sun Feb 2 13:44:03 2003:

"Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" - wow, terrible movie.  Still, it's
got Alice Cooper AND Aerosmith, and Earth Wind & Fire's tune is awesome.


#46 of 106 by dbratman on Sun Feb 2 21:10:53 2003:

resp:43 About popular music, I only know what I hear on the radio 
stations that are being played in stores.


#47 of 106 by jaklumen on Mon Feb 3 09:14:54 2003:

resp:44 The storyline was a colossal flop-- was George Harrison doing 
drugs when he wrote it?  (He's done better.  Time Bandits was weird, 
but cute.)  I think my folks still have a taped copy, so resp:45 I'll 
have to go back to look at the EWF segment.  Really, the covers by the 
various bands and other celebrities are what make movie interesting.


#48 of 106 by dbratman on Tue Feb 4 17:48:57 2003:

Obituary: Lou Harrison, aged 85, a late survivor of the Henry Cowell-
John Cage circle of 1940s avant-garde American composers, on Sunday in 
Lafayette IN on his way to a festival of his music at Ohio State.  (He 
lived in Aptos CA.)  His most typical music blended western instruments 
with eastern aesthetics, with more rigor and astringency than Alan 
Hovhaness; he also wrote for what he called the American gamelan, a 
collection of tin crockery and other miscellanea he and his partner, an 
instrument-maker, put together.

It's not been a good couple years for great musicians named Harrison.


#49 of 106 by bruin on Tue Feb 4 21:28:26 2003:

We also lost legendary Latin jazz musicial Mongo Santamaria, who is best
remembered for his 1960's hit "Watermelon Man".


#50 of 106 by goose on Tue May 13 14:56:19 2003:

And as was announced in Agora, Noel Redding, 57, former bassist of The Jimi
Hendrix Experience.


#51 of 106 by krj on Fri May 16 18:29:44 2003:

June Carter Cash, the wife of Johnny Cash, has died following surgery
earlier this month to replace a heart valve.   June Carter was the 
daughter of A.P. and Maybelle Carter, who as The Carter Family were
towering figures in American folk music.    

June Carter was also the mother of country-rock singer Carlene Carter,
from a previous marriage.
 
June Carter Cash had a lovely solo album which came out in 1999, 
"Press On."  USA Today reports that she had just completed another 
album, and presumably it will be released posthumously.

Johnny Cash has been very sick for years, and from all accounts 
June has been taking loving care of him.  Hard to imagine that he'll
outlive her by very long.

The NY Times has an excellent obituary:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/16/obituaries/16CASH.html


#52 of 106 by albaugh on Fri May 16 19:04:14 2003:

A couple of weeks ago I believe she was featured on A&E's "Biography".  
One wonders if this was because of suspected grave state of health affairs...


#53 of 106 by tod on Fri May 16 19:06:40 2003:

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#54 of 106 by happyboy on Sun May 18 17:38:55 2003:

i caught that. :)


#55 of 106 by tod on Mon May 19 18:26:03 2003:

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#56 of 106 by albaugh on Fri Sep 12 18:00:38 2003:

As reported in summer Agora (see item #221), Johnny Cash has passed away at
the age of 71.


#57 of 106 by dbratman on Wed Sep 17 06:27:56 2003:

And according to his obituary, Johnny Cash's first name was actually 
the initial "J."


#58 of 106 by bruin on Wed Sep 17 13:16:25 2003:

Just got word that singer/actor Sheb Wooley died at the age of 82.  His
biggest hit was the 1958 novelty song "Purple People Eater."


#59 of 106 by mynxcat on Wed Sep 17 13:43:09 2003:

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#60 of 106 by remmers on Wed Sep 17 17:10:18 2003:

Nope.


#61 of 106 by jaklumen on Thu Sep 18 06:16:30 2003:

Oh, hell no.


#62 of 106 by tpryan on Sat Sep 20 21:50:44 2003:

        Under his 'gise as Ben Colder, Sheb Wooley also did a 
number of country parody songs.  (late 60s, early 70s).



#63 of 106 by goose on Thu Oct 23 02:17:36 2003:

Singer-songwriter Elliot Smith, 34, has died aparently at his own hand...

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/03-10/22.shtml


#64 of 106 by mcnally on Thu Oct 23 06:09:08 2003:

  NPR did a nice piece on him this evening.  It's a shame that 
  that (and possibly music he had on the "Good Will Hunting"
  soundtrack) will be what most people remember about him.


#65 of 106 by happyboy on Thu Oct 23 19:28:23 2003:

never heard of him.


#66 of 106 by mcnally on Thu Oct 23 23:27:41 2003:

 Smith was an "alternative" (whatever that means anymore) singer/songwriter
 from the Portland area.  He had a fairly large regional following and a 
 cult national following among those of us who like fairly mopey and 
 depressing singer/songwriter stuff.  A high-profile song on the soundtrack
 for "Good Will Hunting" earned him an Oscar nomination for best song and 
 enough exposure to swing a major-label record deal.  It appears that he
 finally succumbed to his long-term problems with substance abuse and
 depression.

 He wasn't among my favorite musicians, but I found a fair amount of his work
 enjoyable.  Personally I thought his performing talents were stronger than
 his songwriting talents -- much of his self-penned material seemed too mired
 in cliche and self-pity, even for my tastes, but he undeniably had a voice
 and playing style that was effective and very well suited for his material.


#67 of 106 by dbratman on Fri Oct 24 07:09:55 2003:

All I remember about "Good Will Hunting" is that I didn't believe in 
Robin Williams's character for a minute.  Any of the other characters, 
either.


#68 of 106 by krj on Tue Dec 16 21:29:59 2003:

Scottish fiddler Johnny Cunningham has died: reported today on Radio
Scotland and confirmed at his web site.  Johnny Cunningham, the brother
of Phil, was probably best known for work in the bands Silly Wizard and 
Relativity, and more recently he'd been part of the Celtic Fiddle 
Festival tours.


#69 of 106 by dbratman on Sun Dec 21 05:40:12 2003:

Now that's tragic.  Johnny Cunningham was a wizard of Celtic fiddlers.  
He'll be missed - but his records won't, because they're not going away.


#70 of 106 by albaugh on Fri Mar 5 21:09:36 2004:

From the Ann Arbor News:

http://www.legacy.com/annarbor/LegacySubPage2.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonId=1
998
199


George R. Cavender
                                                                 
Cavender, George R. Ann Arbor, MI Professor Emeritus of music at the
University of Michigan passed away Tuesday, March 2, 2004. He was born in
Wakefield, Michigan, the only son of Emma (Ylkanen) & George Cavender.
George served in the Marine Corps in the South Pacific during WWII.
He spent 40 years at the University of Michigan, primarily with the marching
band. To quote one of his students, George had indefatigable enthusiasm,
the ability to bring out the best in people, and a deep caring for those in his
charge. Surviving are his wife of 57 years, Florence; his two children,
Dr. David Cavender and Patricia (John) Crick; four grandchildren, Brendan and
Carly Cavender and Brian and Kathleen Crick. Services will be private.
Those who wish may make memorial contributions to the George Cavender 
Scholarship Fund C/O University of Michigan Bands. Arrangements by MUEHLIG
Funeral Chapel. 

Published in the Ann Arbor News on MLive.com on 3/5/2004. 


#71 of 106 by albaugh on Fri Mar 5 21:15:28 2004:

It doesn't say hold old he was.  I want to say in his 80's.

George was my / our director while I played in the [non-music-major] Varsity
Band at U-M during 1975-1977.  He also was a regular guest conductor during
one of the summer concerts of our Plymouth Community Band.  He has been "out
of circulation" for several years, I believe, due to health reasons.
He certainly *did* have a lot of enthusiasm - quite often "over the top" -
but I managed to learn a few things about music while playing under him.


#72 of 106 by cyklone on Fri Mar 5 23:36:46 2004:

The article I saw said he was 84.


#73 of 106 by krj on Fri Apr 9 19:53:31 2004:

BBC Radio 3 reports the death of Bob Copper, 89, the patriarch of England's 
Copper Family of folksingers.  The Copper Family are considered very 
important for having a family tradition which preserved lots of old 
songs, and Bob got to be quite appreciated in his later years.
He made two or three tours of the USA in the last decade, IIRC, and 
I think he was also given an award from the Queen this year.
 


#74 of 106 by krj on Fri Apr 9 19:57:16 2004:

Ah, this news story says that Bob died four days after travelling
to Buckingham Palace to be made a Member of the Order of the British 
Empire.  There is an official? family web page at 
http://www.thecopperfamily.com


#75 of 106 by twenex on Sat Apr 10 13:46:13 2004:

That's very sad.

People who get6 that award get to put "MBE" after their names. Supposedly the
government are looking to change the system to get rid of the "Empire".
Personally, I'm amazed they didn't do it when they changed the name of the
Empire itself. But maybe I shouldn't be; they still can't agree on what to
replace the House of Lords with, having originally intended to to abolish it
in 1911! (one suggestion I heard was for a "House of Senators" (not "Senate").
Ugh.)


#76 of 106 by mcnally on Sat Apr 10 16:32:32 2004:

  re #75:

  If it's going to be "House of {X}" clearly it {X} ought to be 
  replaced with "Pancakes."  The Pancakes won't like it at first,
  but they'll get used to their new title.  For everyone else it 
  will be an easy adjustment -- it practically rolls off the tongue
  automatically..  

  [Or don't you have IHOPs in Britain?  Don't tell me they're lying
  about the "International" part..]   ;-)


#77 of 106 by twenex on Sat Apr 10 17:59:19 2004:

Assuming you're referring to members of the aristocracy as "Pancakes", your
xenophobia is unwarranted, as the point of reforming the House of Lords is
to get rid of the, um, Lords - or at least to avoid their automatic membership
in Parliament.


#78 of 106 by twenex on Sat Apr 10 18:03:15 2004:

As an aside, I watched an interview with an Iraqi intellectual. In the course
of the interview, he said that America must get used to idea that it is a part
of the world, rather than the view that the world is part of America. While
I think it's unfair to tarnish all Americans with the same brush, the current
Administration's conduct, and #76, are perfect examples of what he was talking
about.


#79 of 106 by dbratman on Sat Apr 10 20:00:43 2004:

Dunno if the author of #78 is an American or not, but "Can't recognize 
a joke when he sees it" does seem to be a good description.


#80 of 106 by twenex on Sat Apr 10 22:08:05 2004:

Au contraire, mon ami. #76 is too consistent6 with mcnally's style to be a
joke.


#81 of 106 by krj on Sun Apr 11 06:53:39 2004:

It would seem to be a joke that didn't survive crossing the 
Atlantic.  Sorry it drowned on the way, Jeff.


#82 of 106 by dbratman on Sun Apr 11 15:29:43 2004:

Ayup.  Can't recognize a joke when he sees it.  Just as I thought.


#83 of 106 by krj on Mon Apr 12 00:24:18 2004:

Jeff is from Northumbria.


#84 of 106 by twenex on Mon Apr 12 03:55:26 2004:

Now explain to him where that is...


#85 of 106 by mcnally on Mon Apr 12 04:30:06 2004:

  Surprisingly far from plain old Umbria..


#86 of 106 by twenex on Tue Apr 13 19:33:00 2004:

Yeah.

Care to hazard why that is?


#87 of 106 by mcnally on Tue Apr 13 21:57:45 2004:

  All the good names were taken?


#88 of 106 by mcnally on Sat May 8 22:09:47 2004:

  Influential music producer Clement 'Coxsone' Dodd died in Jamaica
  on May 4th.  Dodd's "Studio One" record label was instrumental
  (no pun intended) in turning Jamaica into a world music power.
  Through his influence over the work of Studio One artsts such
  as the Skatalites, the Maytals, and a young Bob Marley, Dodd 
  changed the course of popular music forever.

  http://news.independent.co.uk/people/obituaries/story.jsp?story=518871


#89 of 106 by mcnally on Thu Jun 10 21:40:18 2004:

  Just about every news source is reporting the death of musical pioneer
  Ray Charles, at age 73.  It would be difficult to overstate Charles'
  contribution to the development of soul music and (to a much lesser extent)
  his pioneering country crossover work influenced that genre as well.

  Yesterday's mail brought me my copy of "The Birth of Soul:  the Complete
  Atlantic Recordings, 1952-1959", so I guess I know what I'll be listening
  to when I get home tonight..



#90 of 106 by dbratman on Fri Jun 25 22:41:25 2004:

Responding to the suggestion that the late R. Reagan's picture be 
placed on the $10 bill, The New Yorker this week ran a cover showing 
the picture of Ray Charles on a $10 bill: surely on the grounds that if 
a recently deceased person should get this honor, it should be someone 
generally admirable.


#91 of 106 by jaklumen on Wed Jun 30 07:04:42 2004:

Generally, or at least in the opinion of The New Yorker.


#92 of 106 by jaklumen on Wed Jun 30 07:05:17 2004:

not that Ray Charles isn't generally admirable, as he is...


#93 of 106 by otaking on Wed Aug 18 21:34:17 2004:

David Raskin, composer for Laura among other movies, died of heart failure
at 92.

Jerry Goldsmith, composer for many movies & shows, including several Star Trek
Movies, The Blue Max, First Knight, The Waltons, Supergirl, Basic Instinct
and countless others died of cancer at 75.


#94 of 106 by albaugh on Fri Aug 27 18:58:31 2004:

Re: Jerry Goldsmith, according to http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0000025/
he died July 21.  His most recent work is listed as:

1. Star Trek: The Experience - Borg Invasion 4D (2004) 
    (from "Star Trek: First Contact" and "Star Trek: Voyager") 


#95 of 106 by otaking on Sat Aug 28 21:40:54 2004:

Elmer Bernstein, composer of "The Magnificent Seven" and "Far From Home" among
many others, died last week of a long illness at 82.


#96 of 106 by gelinas on Sun Aug 29 01:44:39 2004:

Ah.  I thought I was hearing "Leonard Bernstein," who I _thought_ died some
years back.


#97 of 106 by albaugh on Mon Aug 30 19:21:04 2004:

Elmer was his waskuwy evil twin.  ;-)


#98 of 106 by micklpkl on Tue Oct 26 19:32:18 2004:

R.I.P., John Peel, Radio 1 DJ/broadcaster since the network's launch in 1967,
died suddenly while on holiday in Peru. Check the Radio 1 site for more
details.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/johnpeel/index.shtml


#99 of 106 by mcnally on Tue Oct 26 21:20:28 2004:

  Wow.  No more Peel Sessions.


#100 of 106 by albaugh on Fri Dec 10 18:38:13 2004:

Received an e-mail announcing the death of famed bandsman from Eastman School
of Music, Frederick Fennell, on Tuesday, December 7, 2004.
Writes his daughter:

Dad asked to be cremated and that
I scatter his ashes in the woods at Interlochen, Michigan this summer.


#101 of 106 by krj on Thu Jan 13 19:36:48 2005:

Spencer Dryden, the drummer for the Jefferson Airplane through their
glory years, has died of cancer at the age of 66.  Dryden had had 
health problems for years and was nearly destitute.
 
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/01/13/BAGVGAPF1T1.DTL


#102 of 106 by mcnally on Thu Jan 13 19:42:53 2005:

  How sad..


#103 of 106 by krj on Tue Feb 1 18:06:59 2005:

Martyn Bennett died on Sunday, age 33, "following a long 
battle with Hodgkin's Lymphoma."   
 
Martyn's last album, GRIT, was a techno-folk masterpiece which 
was developed while he was recuperating at his parents' home, 
and listening to old traditional Scottish folk LPs.
GRIT was my pick for my favorite CD of 2003.
 
Here's an obituary from a Scottish newspaper:
http://news.scotsman.com/archive.cfm?id=118752005
 
Over the last five years, Martyn was probably the musician
whose new recordings I most eagerly looked forward to.  I knew that
this premature death was a possibility, but he had sounded pretty
good in the last round of interviews on BBC radio shows.


#104 of 106 by micklpkl on Tue Feb 1 18:43:23 2005:

I'm very sad to hear this.


#105 of 106 by mcnally on Tue Feb 1 18:54:31 2005:

 I liked this odd scrap of info from his biography in the All Musig Guide:

 > He served as personal piper to the president of Tanzania during the
 > president's visit to Edinburgh.



#106 of 106 by scott on Thu Feb 10 09:26:55 2005:

Jazz organ legend Jimmy Smith has died.


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